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Heart of the Swarm
Oct 16 2010, 4:45 pm
By: ClansAreForGays  

Oct 16 2010, 4:45 pm ClansAreForGays Post #1



So, with Kerrigan cured.... how the hell is Heart of the Swarm going to be played out as Zerg, when there is no longer a Zerg Jim Raynor equivalent?




Oct 16 2010, 5:02 pm Fisty Post #2



You play as the ambitious Overlord Yggdrasil, in his quest to reunite the Swarm.



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Oct 16 2010, 5:36 pm ImagoDeo Post #3



Quote from Fisty
You play as the ambitious Overlord Yggdrasil, in his quest to reunite the Swarm.

BS. Kerri retains her psionic control over the Zerg. Duh.



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Oct 17 2010, 9:32 pm Lanthanide Post #4



Quote from ImagoDeo
BS. Kerri retains her psionic control over the Zerg. Duh.
Yes, in other words it's a re-run of the early BW campaign where Kerrigan has to re-assert her dominance over the Zerg, with help from Raynor and possibly the Protoss. Just like BW.



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Oct 18 2010, 9:14 pm ClansAreForGays Post #5



http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft_II:_Heart_of_the_Swarm
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The campaign, viewed as a sequel,[8] is focused on Kerrigan[9] and the development of a zerg empire.[10] The campaign operates similarly to an RPG, in which Kerrigan is focused on increasing her personal power through mutations. Zerg armies protect her as she garners this power.[11] The greater her power, the more zerg she's able to control.[12] Like Wings of Liberty, the player will be presented with choices as to which missions to carry out and which units to get, but such choices won't be based on cash.[13] Both the missions and their objectives are intended to be quite different from the ones featured in Wings of Liberty.[14] She will instead worry about evolving the Swarm.[15]

The campaign will feature a branched storyline structure.[8] ]
woooooooooow. So something's going to be happening immediately that nullifies the entire first game? And like lanth said, it's just like BW all over again.




Oct 18 2010, 10:27 pm Billy Post #6



I assume... tassadar now controls the swarm and he cannot be owned due to.. you know :awesome:



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Oct 19 2010, 9:07 am Gigins Post #7



What the fuck? Didn't jimmy boy like cure her in the first game. This saddens me, very very much...



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Oct 21 2010, 3:25 am Lanthanide Post #8



Clans, those quotes from wikia are from a long long time ago, shortly after they announced that they were splitting the game into 3 parts. So I wouldn't put much faith into them.

But assuming we are playing as Kerrigan, and assuming we lead the Zerg as the primary race in the campaign, then it is going to *have* to be some storyline that revolves around her gaining control of the swarm, for at least the first part of the campaign. Which, as I said above, is what BW did.

It's possible Kerrigan could only play a peripheral part, but given how conservative Blizzard were with the SC2 storyline (no major important new characters or even events really, apart from Kerrigan) it's hard to imagine what else they would do. Maybe they'll bring Alexi Stukov back - although it appeared he died in BW, he was brought back in the novels and IIRC N64 secret mission and Metzen has confirmed that Stukov being infested and de-infested is part of canon.



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Oct 21 2010, 3:56 am ImagoDeo Post #9



Quote from Lanthanide
Clans, those quotes from wikia are from a long long time ago, shortly after they announced that they were splitting the game into 3 parts. So I wouldn't put much faith into them.

But assuming we are playing as Kerrigan, and assuming we lead the Zerg as the primary race in the campaign, then it is going to *have* to be some storyline that revolves around her gaining control of the swarm, for at least the first part of the campaign. Which, as I said above, is what BW did.

It's possible Kerrigan could only play a peripheral part, but given how conservative Blizzard were with the SC2 storyline (no major important new characters or even events really, apart from Kerrigan) it's hard to imagine what else they would do. Maybe they'll bring Alexi Stukov back - although it appeared he died in BW, he was brought back in the novels and IIRC N64 secret mission and Metzen has confirmed that Stukov being infested and de-infested is part of canon.

That's good, I liked Stukov.

Imo Kerri is going to have some serious character issues after being zerg for so long. I think she'll retain her hold on the Zerg, but what she'll do with it I don't know. That's pretty much the only way they can have a Zerg campaign. Eventually, she and Raynor are going to get married, probably after they reform the Xel'naga with Zeratul's help in Legacy of the Void and save the world from Duran and evil hybrids and crap.



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Oct 21 2010, 4:02 am Neki Post #10



I honestly think that Kerrigan basically struggles to control the Zerg (again) and slowly regains her strength as you progress through the campaign. She'll be attaining higher psionic powers while being human and will basically develop new breeds of Zerg. The main enemies will probably be Mengsk (surprise) and Protoss who believe Kerrigan is still the exact same. It'd be cool if she was in every campaign as a pseudo hero maybe, but that seems like it'd be easily exploitable. I just wonder if Jimmy will help her from time to time and how all of Jimmy's friends react to her being human again. You might even fight a lot of hybrids, which would be cool.



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Oct 21 2010, 4:07 am Decency Post #11



Yeah, I'm not seeing how her leading the Zerg necessarily means that they're evil. Judging from "In Utter Darkness," if she's the one who can save humanity a good portion of SC2-2 will probably be against the Hybrids/Xel'Naga.



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Oct 21 2010, 4:23 am Neki Post #12



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Yeah, I'm not seeing how her leading the Zerg necessarily means that they're evil. Judging from "In Utter Darkness," if she's the one who can save humanity a good portion of SC2-2 will probably be against the Hybrids/Xel'Naga.
Though people will complain that's a rehash of the Warcraft III story if it ends up being everyone against the Hybrids at the end, but I don't know, if they make it epic and pull it off well, I don't care. There's a reason why all vs the big bad guy is a trope, because it's a reliable and satisfying good one. Maybe Blizzard will throw a curveball at us though.



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Oct 21 2010, 8:20 pm Sand Wraith Post #13

she/her

Quote from Neki
Maybe Blizzard will throw a curveball at us though.

They probably won't.
But if they do do something like that, it better be a ball that shifts into a separate reality as it curves towards me then reappears from behind my head at 20x its original velocity and kills me.

I'm betting they won't, though. Seriously, they already went the way of "ABSOLVE KERRIGAN IN THE MOST PRIMITIVE MANNER POSSIBLE" and "ARTIFACT OF DEUS EX MACHINA", so whatever.




Oct 21 2010, 8:27 pm Neki Post #14



Isn't the whole concept of Xel'Naga basically Deus Ex Machina though? :awesome:



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Oct 21 2010, 11:44 pm ClansAreForGays Post #15



Quote from Neki
Isn't the whole concept of Xel'Naga basically Deus Ex Machina though? :awesome:
Not even kinda.




Oct 22 2010, 2:35 am UnholyUrine Post #16



luls, SC2's story bored me...

oooh big baddies coming to destroy the universe.
Dr. Nefarious behind Ratchet and Clank stories sounded more acceptable than that load of crap. It's just not up to par with all the hype...

anyways, I think what Neki said will be the closest:
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I honestly think that Kerrigan basically struggles to control the Zerg (again) and slowly regains her strength as you progress through the campaign. She'll be attaining higher psionic powers while being human and will basically develop new breeds of Zerg. The main enemies will probably be Mengsk (surprise) and Protoss who believe Kerrigan is still the exact same. It'd be cool if she was in every campaign as a pseudo hero maybe, but that seems like it'd be easily exploitable. I just wonder if Jimmy will help her from time to time and how all of Jimmy's friends react to her being human again. You might even fight a lot of hybrids, which would be cool.
The curveball would be jimmy dying to save kerrigan again. That'd be epic. :D



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Oct 22 2010, 5:31 am Lanthanide Post #17



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The curveball would be jimmy dying to save kerrigan again. That'd be epic. :D
Possible, given how many heroes they killed in BW.

However by that same token, Jim, Kerrigan and Zeratul are the only characters from original Starcraft and Artanis is the only other one from BW that has made an appearance so far. Also all the heroes died in the 3rd part of BW, which is again likely how they'd do it this time as well, as it's more dramatic and easier to write a storyline that way.



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Oct 22 2010, 8:21 am Ahli Post #18

I do stuff and thingies... Try widening and reducing the number of small nooks and crannies to correct the problem.

Quote from Lanthanide
Quote from UnholyUrine
The curveball would be jimmy dying to save kerrigan again. That'd be epic. :D
Possible, given how many heroes they killed in BW.
Impossible, because the whole Starcraft story is mostly around Raynor.




Oct 25 2010, 3:54 pm Syphon Post #19



I'm guessing Kerrigan will miss her power, and willfully give herself back up to the swarm, against Jim and Valerian.

Of course, this makes Jim realise she's truly a lost cause and he tries to kill her the rest of the game. Failing.



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Oct 25 2010, 4:05 pm Neki Post #20



I really doubt Blizzard would nullify all of WoL by just turning her back into an evil Zerg unless they pulled it off masterly. It would anger so many fans, you basically wasted thirty missions for nothing.



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