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[2014-10-17. : 5:06 pm]  Sacrieur -- RoyRoy shouted: That's like 15 posts in any forum. So 75 posts a week?  [2014-10-17. : 4:55 pm] Azrael -- I wish I had the skill of reading just enough to make random comments in a conversation, but not enough to understand the conversation.[2014-10-17. : 4:55 pm] Azrael -- "Wing Zero -- It would be boreing if i knew how many minerals were left on the board at any given time" No one suggested that at any time.[2014-10-17. : 4:50 pm] Roy -- Well, you still wouldn't know how many winning boxes there'd be, at least.[2014-10-17. : 4:49 pm]  Wing Zero -- It would be boreing if i knew how many minerals were left on the board at any given time[2014-10-17. : 4:48 pm] Wing Zero -- I don't see how you can consider the magic boxes an atrocity. They are magic boxes for a reason.[2014-10-17. : 4:41 pm] Azrael -- I thought we were supposed to be worried about smallpox? Whatever happened to that?[2014-10-17. : 4:40 pm] Azrael -- Lots of people are dying of ebola, but considering the death toll was much higher for the bubonic plague, this is fine.[2014-10-17. : 4:39 pm] Azrael -- Yeah, you are insulting Jews (capitalized, wow Wing) by suggesting an atrocity is "okay" if something *more* unfair happened in the past.[2014-10-17. : 4:38 pm] Azrael -- "Assuming true randomness, and assuming the player cannot choose to not play if they see the odds are against them" would make your statement correct.[2014-10-17. : 4:38 pm] Roy -- It's notI thought we were assuming one player, one winning box. Your odds increase if other players have played and lost.[2014-10-17. : 4:37 pm] jjf28 -- AzraelAzrael shouted: "Hitler killed millions of Jews, so it's okay if we just kill a few hundred thousand." reductio ad hitlerum [2014-10-17. : 4:36 pm] Azrael -- RoyRoy shouted: Actually, assuming true randomness, it doesn't matter which box you pick. It's always 1/49. A box doesn't become "more likely" if it hasn't been the winning box 10, 50, or 9001 times in a row. AzraelAzrael shouted: In reality, people who see that the jackpot was gotten already won't play, and thus their losses will be minimized, earning them profit. [2014-10-17. : 4:36 pm] Roy -- Actually, assuming true randomness, it doesn't matter which box you pick. It's always 1/49. A box doesn't become "more likely" if it hasn't been the winning box 10, 50, or 9001 times in a row.[2014-10-17. : 4:36 pm] Azrael -- "Hitler killed millions of Jews, so it's okay if we just kill a few hundred thousand."[2014-10-17. : 4:36 pm] Wing Zero -- Also you underestimate the willingness of people wanting to play magic boxes[2014-10-17. : 4:36 pm] Azrael -- Wing, if you're going to enter a discussion uninvited, at least have the decency to bring some logic with you as a gift.[2014-10-17. : 4:35 pm] Azrael -- In reality, people who see that the jackpot was gotten already won't play, and thus their losses will be minimized, earning them profit.[2014-10-17. : 4:35 pm] Wing Zero -- AZ considering the Magic boxes were rigged against you before. This is perfectly fine[2014-10-17. : 4:34 pm] Azrael -- On a side note: While the "1/49 board would make you break even" idea is nice in theory, that's only true if you open the first box for all 49 games.[2014-10-17. : 4:32 pm] Azrael -- Having a rigged carnival game where they let every 5th person win, and thus people who play 5+ games aren't being ripped off, doesn't make it fair for the people who got screwed in the meantime.[2014-10-17. : 4:30 pm] Azrael -- It will have relatively zero impact on the "over time" balance to add 40 minerals to a single board.[2014-10-17. : 4:29 pm] Azrael -- The "OVER TIME" average will still be above 980, and only marginally affected.[2014-10-17. : 4:28 pm] Azrael -- So it's balanced OVER TIME. It's additionally possible to balance each board individually as well, which currently isn't the case.Additionally, if the worst board really does add up to 940 (I somehow doubt this has been verified for every/any board, considering the uncertain way in which it was stated), is it really[2014-10-17. : 4:27 pm] Roy -- The boards balance each other. Well, actually not, because there are more profitable boards than not, and to a higher margin.[2014-10-17. : 4:27 pm] Azrael -- It's lazy and dishonest to suggest one is okay even if the other isn't.[2014-10-17. : 4:26 pm] Azrael -- But really: The game should be balanced PER BOARD in addition to OVER TIME.[2014-10-17. : 4:26 pm] Azrael -- Right. That's not too much to expect. Someone who plays the "below 1 multiplier" boards is going to consistently lose money over time. |
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