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[2015-3-11. : 1:23 am]
jjf28 -- Prove that you're truly sorry, give Sand_Wraith 200 minerals
[2015-3-11. : 1:23 am]
Sand Wraith -- * my previous shout was wrt this. And no, this is an extremely dangerous position to hold that you present, although I suppose it is consistent with the sort things you've said.
[2015-3-11. : 1:23 am]
Azrael -- You misunderstood him, SW. He was trying to make a passive-aggressive comment about me in third-person, and was referencing the fact I "flamed you" earlier.
[2015-3-11. : 1:23 am]
Fire_Kame -- Roy
Roy shouted: Prove... my lack of attentiveness?
you're not helping your case
[2015-3-11. : 1:23 am]
Moose -- No, demonstrate taking responsibility.
[2015-3-11. : 1:22 am]
Roy -- Prove... my lack of attentiveness?
[2015-3-11. : 1:22 am]
Moose -- Roy
Roy shouted: I take full responsibility for my lack of attentiveness in regards to flaming in the Shoutbox earlier, and I apologize.
Prove it.
[2015-3-11. : 1:21 am]
Sand Wraith -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: well roy thought you were old enough to tell az to calm his tits on your own
I was hoping he'd see how badly he was behaving by my refutations. zsnakezz
zsnakezz shouted: so this is a common thing sand?
No. I never cried about how being "attractive is a privilege." If you're referring to my reply to Cap'n Will's post, it was a thinly veiled compliment. If you're referring to my previous thoughts in the shoutbox, I figured they would read as largely interested in describing it.
[2015-3-11. : 1:21 am]
jjf28 -- Fire_Kame
Fire_Kame shouted: Sand Wraith The only way to win is not to play
no pain no gain
[2015-3-11. : 1:21 am]
Fire_Kame -- Roy
Roy shouted: SEN is California, then: no lockpicks allowed.
You've never owned a Civic I take it
[2015-3-11. : 1:20 am]
Fire_Kame -- Sand Wraith
Sand Wraith shouted: Roy Where was this when Azrael flamed me?
The only way to win is not to play
[2015-3-11. : 1:20 am]
jjf28 -- :roy: so courteous
[2015-3-11. : 1:20 am]
Azrael -- :P
[2015-3-11. : 1:20 am]
Roy -- I take full responsibility for my lack of attentiveness in regards to flaming in the Shoutbox earlier, and I apologize.
[2015-3-11. : 1:18 am]
jjf28 -- my favorite expression for flamers btw :)
[2015-3-11. : 1:18 am]
Roy -- Sand Wraith
Sand Wraith shouted: Roy Where was this when Azrael flamed me?
MIA.
[2015-3-11. : 1:18 am]
jjf28 -- well roy thought you were old enough to tell az to calm his tits on your own
[2015-3-11. : 1:18 am]
zsnakezz -- so this is a common thing sand?
[2015-3-11. : 1:17 am]
Sand Wraith -- Roy
Roy shouted: No flaming, kay thanks.
Where was this when Azrael flamed me?
[2015-3-11. : 1:17 am]
DT_Battlekruser -- lockpicks are legal in California; the state must prove intent to commit burglary in order to convict you for having them
[2015-3-11. : 1:17 am]
Azrael -- That doesn't change their value to those it does concern.
[2015-3-11. : 1:17 am]
Sand Wraith -- Azrael
Azrael shouted: Thanks for that totally reasonable comparison.
Just like with gay rights to marriage certificates and Catholics, right? (You know, ignoring the categorical implication that all Catholics care to stamp over gay rights.)
[2015-3-11. : 1:17 am]
Azrael -- I could literally not care less if you think maps are valuable or not. I doubt anyone does.
[2015-3-11. : 1:16 am]
Azrael -- If you don't want people talking to you, maybe you should shut the fuck up? Especially about a topic that obviously doesn't concern you one way or the other. The fact that you don't personally have a vested interest in SC maps doesn't reduce their value to those that do.
[2015-3-11. : 1:16 am]
jjf28 -- (explicit) http://youtu.be/gtka8jXL7fk
[2015-3-11. : 1:16 am]
zsnakezz -- there is actual moderation for that sort of thing
[2015-3-11. : 1:16 am]
Roy -- No flaming, kay thanks.
[2015-3-11. : 1:15 am]
Azrael -- What now?
[2015-3-11. : 1:15 am]
Roy -- SEN is California, then: no lockpicks allowed.
[2015-3-11. : 1:15 am]
zsnakezz -- azrael, i really wish you would stop talking to me
[2015-3-11. : 1:15 am]
DT_Battlekruser -- lockpicks can be used for many things - if you lock your keys in your car; for fun; etc. they don't have to be used for illegitimate purposes
[2015-3-11. : 1:15 am]
Azrael -- My whole life view has changed.
[2015-3-11. : 1:14 am]
Azrael -- Thanks for that totally reasonable comparison.
[2015-3-11. : 1:14 am]
Azrael -- zsnakezz
zsnakezz shouted: these are starcraft maps, not vaults full of money
Whoa, no way!
[2015-3-11. : 1:14 am]
zsnakezz -- these are starcraft maps, not vaults full of money
[2015-3-11. : 1:14 am]
jjf28 -- be fair Az, you love weaving legit and absurd trolling points together ;)
[2015-3-11. : 1:13 am]
DT_Battlekruser -- and litigation of it is always a mess
[2015-3-11. : 1:13 am]
DT_Battlekruser -- An analogy in the real world might be whether it should be legal to purchase or carry lockpicks. The law on the books in most jurisdictions is that posession of "burglary tools" with the intent to use them in a "burglary" (itself a crime which requires the intent to steal something or commit another felony) is illegal
[2015-3-11. : 1:13 am]
Azrael -- Oh, here we go with SW's vitriolic spewing again.
[2015-3-11. : 1:13 am]
Sand Wraith -- Azrael has been making absurd arguments from the start since I've wanted to simply talk about it.
[2015-3-11. : 1:13 am]
Azrael -- Nice.
[2015-3-11. : 1:13 am]
zsnakezz -- that, makes no sense
[2015-3-11. : 1:13 am]
Azrael -- LOL.
[2015-3-11. : 1:12 am]
Roy -- That's the same argument for people against getting their children vaccinated, interestingly enough.
[2015-3-11. : 1:12 am]
Azrael -- Thanks for making a sound argument.
[2015-3-11. : 1:12 am]
Azrael -- If no one is interested in maps, then no one needs an unprotector.
[2015-3-11. : 1:12 am]
zsnakezz -- because there would be little to no point
[2015-3-11. : 1:12 am]
zsnakezz -- thats my argument
[2015-3-11. : 1:12 am]
zsnakezz -- i don't think stealing maps is a thing people do anymore
[2015-3-11. : 1:11 am]
DT_Battlekruser -- zsnakezz
zsnakezz shouted: i mean, lets say we were taking a legal standpoint
I mean there are obviously two angles - what use of unprotectors is moral, and how do adopt an official policy that best promotes that?
[2015-3-11. : 1:11 am]
Sand Wraith -- I don't even mind protecting maps either. I've done it before. I just can't believe that a good majority agree that hosting an unprotector in some way (implementation aside), is a pretty decent idea, and yet here is Azrael, spewing abuse and vitriol at me, claiming I'm selfish, while also ignoring what I've said both in the past and now.
[2015-3-11. : 1:11 am]
zsnakezz -- they should be allowed, for old content, but there is no way of enforcing that
[2015-3-11. : 1:11 am]
Roy -- The reason the argument exists is very clear to me.
[2015-3-11. : 1:11 am]
jjf28 -- :roy:
[2015-3-11. : 1:11 am]
Roy -- Is it due to a lack of empathy or understanding?
[2015-3-11. : 1:10 am]
zsnakezz -- i don't see why the argument even exists to begin with
[2015-3-11. : 1:09 am]
Roy -- zsnakezz
zsnakezz shouted: i mean, lets say we were taking a legal standpoint
The legal standpoint is that SEN makes the rules for what it hosts.
[2015-3-11. : 1:09 am]
jjf28 -- DT_Battlekruser
DT_Battlekruser shouted: good lord, I don't want to read a 9-page thread. I forget this debate.. was there ever a faction that believed authors shouldn't have the right to restrict the creation of derivative works?
zsnakezz
zsnakezz shouted: no, map makers have no right towards locking their work
mm, there's almost no one that argues the opposite, the discussion is rather on allowing/disallowing unprotectors on SEN
[2015-3-11. : 1:09 am]
zsnakezz -- since it affects me to a zero degree
[2015-3-11. : 1:09 am]
zsnakezz -- not saying I care in any way shape or form
[2015-3-11. : 1:08 am]
zsnakezz -- since its not their property
[2015-3-11. : 1:08 am]
Sand Wraith -- **ARGUABLY. Sand Wraith
Sand Wraith shouted: DT_Battlekruser Payne.
[2015-3-11. : 1:08 am]
zsnakezz -- no, map makers have no right towards locking their work
[2015-3-11. : 1:08 am]
Sand Wraith -- DT_Battlekruser
DT_Battlekruser shouted: good lord, I don't want to read a 9-page thread. I forget this debate.. was there ever a faction that believed authors shouldn't have the right to restrict the creation of derivative works?
Payne.
[2015-3-11. : 1:08 am]
zsnakezz -- i mean, lets say we were taking a legal standpoint
[2015-3-11. : 1:07 am]
DT_Battlekruser -- good lord, I don't want to read a 9-page thread. I forget this debate.. was there ever a faction that believed authors shouldn't have the right to restrict the creation of derivative works?
[2015-3-11. : 1:07 am]
zsnakezz -- the arguments in that thread
[2015-3-11. : 1:05 am]
Roy -- http://www.staredit.net/topic/15638/
[2015-3-11. : 1:03 am]
zsnakezz -- is there a link for this?
[2015-3-11. : 1:03 am]
Roy -- "Hosting unprotectors for a 20 year old game seems silly." Oh no, the arguments!

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