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[2015-10-21. : 10:50 pm]  Moose -- JackJack shouted: jjf28 No, just lacks evidence that I can point you towards JackJack shouted: jjf28 Anecdotal evidence is not necessarily false, just unverifiable without further sources (insert athiest comments here)[2015-10-21. : 10:50 pm] Moose -- DevourerDevourer shouted: http://www.staredit.net/topic/16871/ Doesn't matter since the answers for me are "never" and "you won't".[2015-10-21. : 10:50 pm]  Jack -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Jack so in other words your prior statement was bs Anecdotal evidence is not necessarily false, just unverifiable without further sources [2015-10-21. : 10:48 pm]  NudeRaider -- Sorry, "already" in my bed.  But we can squat all weekend if you want!  [2015-10-21. : 10:47 pm] Jack -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Jack so in other words your prior statement was bs No, just lacks evidence that I can point you towards[2015-10-21. : 10:46 pm] jjf28 -- JackJack shouted: jjf28 More personal experience with state systems than solid research, sorry. so in other words your prior statement was bs [2015-10-21. : 10:46 pm] Moose -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: warrant further discussion. if you have something to say you should do so, in any form you deem necessary Yeah, he's saying something. With his squat form.[2015-10-21. : 10:45 pm] NudeRaider -- warrant further discussion. if you have something to say you should do so, in any form you deem necessary[2015-10-21. : 10:43 pm] Moose -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: what im saying is i cant decide if you have meaningful arguments that warrant And what he's saying is that you don't even lift[2015-10-21. : 10:43 pm] NudeRaider -- what im saying is i cant decide if you have meaningful arguments that warrant[2015-10-21. : 10:40 pm] Jack -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Jack that's all pretty vague and thus provides no counter argument to my points. Yes, because I don't think I can do justice to the topic in the shoutbox with pithy statements  [2015-10-21. : 10:39 pm] NudeRaider -- JackJack shouted: NudeRaider I could say the same to you. I have done a reasonable amount of research myself and don't think that social development through government taxation is the best way of achieving social development, among various other issues with taxation in general, and the practical outworkings of government actions. that's all pretty vague and thus provides no counter argument to my points.[2015-10-21. : 10:39 pm] Moose -- JackJack shouted: WOW "President Franklin D. Roosevelt proposed a 100% tax on all incomes over $25,000.[30][31] When Congress did not enact that proposal, Roosevelt issued an executive order attempting to achieve a similar result through a salary cap on certain salaries in connection with contracts between the private sector and the federal government.[32][33][34] For tax years 1944 through 1951, the highest marginal tax rate for individuals was 91%, increasing to 92% for 1952 and 1953, and reverting to 91% for tax years 1954 through 1963.[35]" JackJack shouted: 100% tax rate proposal, literally "give us all your money" JackJack shouted: and as high as 92% tax rate actually implemented Note, these are the top tax brackets. Money below whatever the top bracket is taxed at progressively lower rates[2015-10-21. : 10:33 pm] NudeRaider -- poison_uspoison_us shouted: Not sure if cyanide would be more or less painful than suffocation. I don't know actually. It was just the first thing that popped into my head. I'd actually do research and find something practical, quick and painless (or so quick that pain is no variable)[2015-10-21. : 10:31 pm] NudeRaider -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: NudeRaider But if you know your death will be by suffocating then it's going to be by suffocating regardless of taking a cyanide pill. He asked me what I'd do if I wouldn't know if I could change the outcome. In that case I'd automatically assume I could because I don't believe in fate. Which is why I'd plan for the pill. What actually happens is another story.  [2015-10-21. : 10:29 pm] lil-Inferno -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: If I know my death will be by suffocating I might carry a cyanide pill around me or something. I didn't say that I would necessarily start planning just when symptoms appear. But if you know your death will be by suffocating then it's going to be by suffocating regardless of taking a cyanide pill.[2015-10-21. : 10:27 pm] poison_us -- Not sure if cyanide would be more or less painful than suffocation.[2015-10-21. : 10:25 pm] NudeRaider -- If I know my death will be by suffocating I might carry a cyanide pill around me or something. I didn't say that I would necessarily start planning just when symptoms appear.[2015-10-21. : 10:25 pm] KrayZee -- BREAKING NEWS - The porn industry decided to donate trillions of dollars to pay off debt, offers scholarships and grants for new pornstars to pay off college tuition, donates billions to cancer and disease cure research especially AIDS and HIV, offers quadruple the paycheck of $15 minimum wage, flourishes economy, and donates billions to education and science, donates billions to NASA and space exploration, and ends world hunger![2015-10-21. : 10:23 pm] NudeRaider -- obviously with so little information I can't make the right decision for all scenarios. I'm just going with what I would find most likely.[2015-10-21. : 10:21 pm] NudeRaider -- DevourerDevourer shouted: NudeRaider but when usually you notice when something slow and painful starts to kill you  [2015-10-21. : 10:20 pm] Jack -- WOW "President Franklin D. Roosevelt proposed a 100% tax on all incomes over $25,000.[30][31] When Congress did not enact that proposal, Roosevelt issued an executive order attempting to achieve a similar result through a salary cap on certain salaries in connection with contracts between the private sector and the federal government.[32][33][34] For tax years 1944 through 1951, the highest marginal tax rate for individuals was 91%, increasing to 92% for 1952 and 1953, and reverting to 91% for tax years 1954 through 1963.[35]"[2015-10-21. : 10:20 pm] Devourer -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: If it's a painful or slow death I might try to plan a suicide. but when[2015-10-21. : 10:20 pm] NudeRaider -- If it's a painful or slow death I might try to plan a suicide.[2015-10-21. : 10:20 pm] poison_us -- Knowing when but not how, and not knowing you can't change it, would mean far more stress. Definitely prefer how.[2015-10-21. : 10:19 pm] NudeRaider -- Then I would want to know how I die in the hopes of figuring out what led to it and trying to prevent it.[2015-10-21. : 10:17 pm] Devourer -- Yeah. Well what if you would not know if you were able to influence it? Probably changes it a bit.[2015-10-21. : 10:17 pm] poison_us -- Besides, knowing for certain when I die may lead to depression.[2015-10-21. : 10:16 pm] NudeRaider -- how I die is irrelevant if a) I can't change it and b) I'm dead afterwards regardless of cause.[2015-10-21. : 10:16 pm] poison_us -- DevourerDevourer shouted: and the "How" would not be that detailed as in location, rather just the cause of death itself, like "stabbed", "shot", "drowned", etc. i assumed this.[2015-10-21. : 10:16 pm] Jack -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Jack I don't know... I don't think I have much more to say. If you don't believe I'm right you might wanna research on your own. I could say the same to you. I have done a reasonable amount of research myself and don't think that social development through government taxation is the best way of achieving social development, among various other issues with taxation in general, and the practical outworkings of government actions.[2015-10-21. : 10:16 pm] NudeRaider -- Then I guess "when" is more helpful. I can plan my life better.[2015-10-21. : 10:16 pm] Devourer -- and the "How" would not be that detailed as in location, rather just the cause of death itself, like "stabbed", "shot", "drowned", etc.[2015-10-21. : 10:15 pm] poison_us -- Though it would also be a relief to know it isn't in a laboratory accident.[2015-10-21. : 10:15 pm] poison_us -- Might clue me in to "when", and I doubt I would actually be doing something different at the time of death. Likely would have forgotten.[2015-10-21. : 10:15 pm] Moose -- JackJack shouted: original USA tax rate was 1% and optional wasn't it? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_history_of_the_United_States#Development_of_the_modern_income_tax[2015-10-21. : 10:14 pm] Devourer -- Offtopic, seriously though, one disgusting choice to make: if you were forced to know one of the following information, what would it be? When -or- How you are going to die?[2015-10-21. : 10:14 pm] NudeRaider -- JackJack shouted: Nude it's too big a topic for shoutbox conversation I think, but if you want we can make a SD thread I don't know... I don't think I have much more to say. If you don't believe I'm right you might wanna research on your own.[2015-10-21. : 10:12 pm] Jack -- Nude it's too big a topic for shoutbox conversation I think, but if you want we can make a SD thread[2015-10-21. : 10:12 pm] Moose -- 1982-1986, top US marginal income tax rate, 50%. 1965-1981, 70%. Oh, you meant the 50s were America's glory days? Try 91 and 92%, then. |
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