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[2016-5-22. : 8:42 pm]
BeatMeistro -- Emacs... Ermac... Hmmm, i wonder what that dude is up to these days.
[2016-5-22. : 8:42 pm]
Sacrieur -- why would you want to do that?
[2016-5-22. : 8:41 pm]
Dem0n -- Sacrieur
Sacrieur shouted: Why don't you go code on Vim.
Emacs IMO
[2016-5-22. : 8:40 pm]
Clokr_ -- its*
[2016-5-22. : 8:39 pm]
Sacrieur -- Spending time coding in another IDE like Eclipse will make you appreciate just how advanced VS is.
[2016-5-22. : 8:39 pm]
Clokr_ -- I don't say it's bad. But it's formatting options are. You cannot even set it to leave a space before the ++ operator in C#...
[2016-5-22. : 8:39 pm]
Sacrieur -- MS's developer tools are lightyears ahead of everyone else.
[2016-5-22. : 8:39 pm]
Sacrieur -- Nothing else comes remotely close.
[2016-5-22. : 8:38 pm]
Sacrieur -- VS is the best IDE out there. Period.
[2016-5-22. : 8:38 pm]
Clokr_ -- Because I already have to learn a book every time I want to do anything in C++, I don't want to have to read another one to use the editor :P
[2016-5-22. : 8:37 pm]
Sacrieur -- Why don't you go code on Vim.
[2016-5-22. : 8:37 pm]
Sacrieur -- You're fucking mad.
[2016-5-22. : 8:37 pm]
Clokr_ -- VStudio is pretty bad at formatting though
[2016-5-22. : 8:37 pm]
Corbo -- BeatMeistro
BeatMeistro shouted: Hey Corbo, you checked Farty's Dat Expansion breakthrough?
Of course ;)
[2016-5-22. : 8:37 pm]
Clokr_ -- And I absolutely hate editing spaces manually.
[2016-5-22. : 8:36 pm]
Corbo -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: But are we using tabs or spaces??
tabs
[2016-5-22. : 8:36 pm]
BeatMeistro -- Hey Corbo, you checked Farty's Dat Expansion breakthrough?
[2016-5-22. : 8:36 pm]
Clokr_ -- I'm using both at the moment actually. This solution has for some reason the C# project set to spaces and the C++ one to tabs.
[2016-5-22. : 8:36 pm]
jjf28 -- :crieur:
[2016-5-22. : 8:36 pm]
Sacrieur -- We're not savages, Moose.
[2016-5-22. : 8:36 pm]
Sacrieur -- Spaces, obviously.
[2016-5-22. : 8:35 pm]
Moose -- But are we using tabs or spaces??
[2016-5-22. : 8:35 pm]
jjf28 -- :moose:
[2016-5-22. : 8:35 pm]
Moose -- It's great that we're doing all of this, really.
[2016-5-22. : 8:35 pm]
jjf28 -- Moose's D?
[2016-5-22. : 8:35 pm]
Clokr_ -- That's silly. Not everything can be done with .NET. There are performance and portability issues that cannot be eluded. Even the own .NET library has to call unmanaged code at some point.
[2016-5-22. : 8:35 pm]
Moose -- I think we're overlooking a much more important bigger issue.
[2016-5-22. : 8:34 pm]
Sacrieur -- You should attempt to resolve your performance issues within .NET
[2016-5-22. : 8:33 pm]
Sacrieur -- Trying to link managed code to unmanaged code is.
[2016-5-22. : 8:31 pm]
Clokr_ -- Trying to get efficiency in some bottleneck functions is bad?
[2016-5-22. : 8:31 pm]
Sacrieur -- It should work against you if you're trying to do something bad.
[2016-5-22. : 8:31 pm]
jjf28 -- it shouldn't not be laborious to interact with the system/preexisting libraries
[2016-5-22. : 8:30 pm]
Moose -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: What makes a language fun for you?
Sacrieur
Sacrieur shouted: If it works with you and not against you.
so much for that LMAO
[2016-5-22. : 8:30 pm]
Sacrieur -- It's called syntactic salt.
[2016-5-22. : 8:29 pm]
jjf28 -- Sacrieur
Sacrieur shouted: As it should.
no, programming should not be more difficult than it has to be, get out
[2016-5-22. : 8:29 pm]
Sacrieur -- As it should.
[2016-5-22. : 8:29 pm]
Clokr_ -- C++ library*
[2016-5-22. : 8:29 pm]
jjf28 -- (for which there's no typedef)
[2016-5-22. : 8:29 pm]
Sacrieur -- As it should.
[2016-5-22. : 8:29 pm]
Clokr_ -- It gets a lot worse if you try to import classes from a C
[2016-5-22. : 8:28 pm]
jjf28 -- and that's without any effort put into making types :P
[2016-5-22. : 8:27 pm]
jjf28 -- Clokr_
Clokr_ shouted: Problem with C# is that it interops with C++, or anything native (dlls etc), really badly. Otherwise it's a fun language on its own, really designed for coding efficiency.
no kidding man http://puu.sh/p1qvc/d530b71166.png
[2016-5-22. : 8:26 pm]
Clokr_ -- Problem with C# is that it interops with C++, or anything native (dlls etc), really badly. Otherwise it's a fun language on its own, really designed for coding efficiency.
[2016-5-22. : 8:23 pm]
Moose -- Not sure if sarcastic. I haven't used LINQ, so pardon my ignorance.
[2016-5-22. : 8:22 pm]
jjf28 -- no it doesn't moose shut up :wob:
[2016-5-22. : 8:22 pm]
Moose -- Neat. Though that kind of sounds like streams and filters to me.
[2016-5-22. : 8:19 pm]
Sacrieur -- Basically you get the power of database tools right built into the language.
[2016-5-22. : 8:18 pm]
Sacrieur -- They built LINQ, which permits you to query, sort, and select data from anything that implements INumerable.
[2016-5-22. : 8:18 pm]
Moose -- D would just be sort!("a > b")(array); Which is messy but if for some reason you wanted other sorts, you could just write whatever.
[2016-5-22. : 8:17 pm]
Sacrieur -- It doesn't stop there for C#, either.
[2016-5-22. : 8:16 pm]
Moose -- Yeah. You run into stupid shit with boxing and unboxing sometimes.
[2016-5-22. : 8:15 pm]
Sacrieur -- Because it implements IEnumerable
[2016-5-22. : 8:14 pm]
Sacrieur -- In C#, for instance, you could do the same thing with a primitive array no problem.
[2016-5-22. : 8:13 pm]
Sacrieur -- Granted, this is a complaint about an API, but it's because of the language this limitation exists.
[2016-5-22. : 8:13 pm]
Sacrieur -- Or I could reverse the order after I've sorted it with my own method.
[2016-5-22. : 8:13 pm]
Sacrieur -- Which means if I wanted to sort this integer array, I'd first have to box it into an Integer array, then unbox it once I've sorted it.
[2016-5-22. : 8:12 pm]
Sacrieur -- But it's not for primitive array types, it's for generics.
[2016-5-22. : 8:12 pm]
Sacrieur -- They do!
[2016-5-22. : 8:12 pm]
Sacrieur -- "Surely they have an overload so that you can sort in descending order." I thought.
[2016-5-22. : 8:12 pm]
Moose -- Sounds about right
[2016-5-22. : 8:11 pm]
Sacrieur -- But it only sorts it in ascending order.
[2016-5-22. : 8:11 pm]
Sacrieur -- They have one for a primitive array. Yay!
[2016-5-22. : 8:11 pm]
Sacrieur -- So I import java.util.Arrays built-in and browse through it for a sort() method.
[2016-5-22. : 8:10 pm]
Sacrieur -- For instance, I was attempting to sort a integer array in Java the other day in descending order.
[2016-5-22. : 8:10 pm]
Sacrieur -- If it works with you and not against you.
[2016-5-22. : 8:06 pm]
Moose -- What makes a language fun for you?
[2016-5-22. : 8:06 pm]
Moose -- I think it's its own thing, but I'm not entirely sure.
[2016-5-22. : 8:06 pm]
Moose -- '
[2016-5-22. : 7:23 pm]
Sacrieur -- It gets compiled down to C code?
[2016-5-22. : 7:23 pm]
Sacrieur -- I'm seeing some memory management tasks you'll still have to do.

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