If you look in the folder where SCMDraft is installed, there's a file called "trigedit help.txt" that shows the syntax for all possible triggers.

Once you learn it, then you can write all your triggers from scratch in notepad, notepad++, whatever. Until then, you can copy and paste conditions/actions from it into notepad.

In notepad/++ if you write one trigger, you can copy it then change the variables. It's a lot easier if you do the copying at the end of your main trigger file, or even better in a NEW file -- that way it's clear and safe and doesn't interfere. You can simply add this new batch of triggers to the end of the list in Trigedit, or insert it in whatever order you want it.

However, I am not sure about the order of triggers as it stands in Trigedit -- it often seems to display the order wrong.

Thanks!!! That will give me something to read for a while.

I would just put the triggers in order from when I want them to happen.

It displays them in the right order.

Devilesk is Starcraft's certified asshole, and my hero. He's mainly mean to newbs/hypocrites/idiots, which, by making this thread, means you are a newb. Don't take it too personally. Only Devilesk can say whether or not it's personal, though.
A macro is a shortcut of something, generally done via a recording. You can use them in Microsoft Office using Visual Basic, though that's quite confusing. In Notepad++ (and other advanced notepad edits) there is a macro window which you can "start recording". Then you do something (type in something) then end recording. If you replay it then, you will get it back. Think of it as an advanced copy/paste in that respect.

Other things you can do is move around using the arrow keys, deleting some number, and replace it with a different one. Fiddle with it to see how you like it. In some cases it's just faster to do it manually. When you have 1500 triggers to do it to, you may want to consider a macro.

They are displayed in the order in which they were put in. Player 1 will always run first though, and player 8 will always run last. From there, they run from top to bottom. If you select all of the possible owners of triggers in classic trigedit, the list will show the triggers in the same order as in trigedit.

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Apr 16 2008, 6:18 am by rockz.

Yeah. I just didn't know how to use the Trigger Editor ( Text ) for ScmDraft, and this whole thing spawned from it. Now I'm using Notepad++ and a bunch of other things that I most likely could live with out. I looked in my Scmdraft 2 file and I didn't see the file. Could someone post theirs as text/attachment?

It's not that you're a newb. I couldn't care less about that. It's the fact that you can't critically read, and neither can you rockz.

Try again:
If you think that's mean then sucks that sucks for you. If you think I'm being "mean" later, then try understanding the above quote and the one below:

Ok, so your my English teacher? Why do you feel the need to take up my whole damn screen with your annoying and pointless quoted posts that have already been mentioned earlier? If your not going to bring me any useful information, then why are you still typing?

Well he is right. I just don't think he gets that we know he is right and are looking for ways to fully utilize notepad++.

Apparently.

No.

Okay so you have people who have been making maps for a long time...exp. Devilesk

And then you have the people who are still learning some, maybe trying to figure some new things out themselves and only ask for help when running into a problem...such as the creator of this thread....no need to put him down or anything.

Asking for help on SEN where there is a forum for it...is the best way to learn if you are stumped...

Actually the problem is that you are unclear in your writing.

Someone point out where I have put down Brontobyte for his mapping skill.

brontobyte, I just emailed you 'trigedit help.txt' (attached to the email). let me know if you get it/don't get it.

Autofill. Typing is faster than pointing and clicking, and cutting out 40 letters in a text trigger is 40 less movements when making said trigger. Less movement=faster.

Sure, let's just ignore the fact that half the trigger editor is graphical

In addition, the move up and down buttons don't even work and the scrollbar doesn't retain its position after editing a trigger.

Classic trigedit does a better job at being a GUI based trigger editor than SF and trigedit does a better job as a text editor. SF's editor is just a poor mix of the two.

And you're telling me to read critically?

Touché. But who makes one trigger maps?

I can only dream of a time when I can use a mixture of all 3 in the same editor. Starforge's trigger editor is terrible, everyone will concede to this fact. It excels at making single triggers and that is all. If it were combined with classic trigedit's functionality, it would be superb. Nothing can replace trigedit, though, as text triggers make duplication simple.

You say to make a trigger in classic trigedit first, then edit in trigedit/notepad. This is what I do. If there were not a program barrier, however, I would make triggers in starforge, then edit in trigedit/notepad.

True, autocomplete and the ability to enter UnitID's into SF's trigger editor are it's only advantages, which at the time however do not outweigh its disadvantages.

DTBK where are you?

Starforge in general is terrible when compared to SCMDraft. The only thing I use it for is sprite manipulation and EUDs. For massive EUDs, however, hex editing is the way to go. Before SCMDraft, though, I would choose starforge + Xtra Edit. Starforge alone could never do it for me.
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