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The future of the internet
Feb 11 2011, 9:12 pm
By: Rantent  

Feb 11 2011, 9:12 pm Rantent Post #1



Realtime search for OMG

I knew there were idiots on the internet. Everyone knows that. But in the past few years, it has come to my attention that there are fewer and fewer actually meaningful messages on the internet. Or rather, such messages are being drowned out by the increase of downright worthless commentary. I have the eerie notion that in the future the internet will breakdown as a form of communication and simply be people shouting whatever is on their mind. Just one big incoherent mix of lame one-liners.

The fact that we can communicate faster has reduced the amount of actual thought behind our statements. In essence, I am realizing that good communication is slow communication.

Any thoughts?



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Feb 11 2011, 9:19 pm The Starport Post #2



omg



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Feb 11 2011, 9:50 pm NicholasBeige Post #3



lol u so st00pid. the future is 3d. http://advance-software.com/develop/



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Feb 11 2011, 9:53 pm Fire_Kame Post #4

wth is starcraft

I think over the next few years most of what will be transmitted will be advertisements. So if you're not advertising, you're being an idiot. Look at twitter. Its all blatant advertising and if it isn't its usually viral. Look at the old spice guy and his interactions on both Youtube and Twitter.

I'll admit I have a business fanpage and a business twitter feed - but I try not to spam it with advertising all the time. Other people though, its ad after ad.

Also, stop your belly aching.




Feb 11 2011, 9:54 pm Sand Wraith Post #5

she/her

Quote from Rantent
The fact that we can communicate faster has reduced the amount of actual thought behind our statements.

Prove this.

At the moment, it really feels like you're undergoing some unnecessary panic. (If this evolves into another moral panic, holyshitiwillkillmyself.) Consider this: does speaking over the phone or communicating through text messages take longer? It probably takes less time for me to walk from my front door to the phone, look up a number, and then dial it than for me to turn on my computer, wait for it to boot up, log in to X communication service to talk with Y person or submit Z content to Z' web service (after finding the bookmark/URL, going through the appropriate tabs and menus, etc.).

With the advent of the Internet, have people been able to communicate faster or is the range of communication simply greater? The rate of information being exchanged may be higher than when mail or telegraphs were the predominant forms of overseas communication, but proportional to the range at which communication has also increased. I.e. we're not communicating faster; we can exchange information at a higher rate and to a wider audience (or farther), but we haven't come up with a technology that speeds up our reading or typing or writing, or to a more extreme extent, we have not come up with a technology that allows direct transference of information with very little obfuscation, which would bypass language barriers and quite literally reduce the time it takes to communicate a certain amount of information at once.

It's clear that we can't communicate "faster," though I'll stop nitpicking and assume that you meant simply being able to express our thoughts to a larger and farther audience sooner.

Sure, people can communicate "faster" (by this I mean at a faster rate and to a wider audience), but notice what the sort of "information" you are highlighting: just looking at the Google search, the speakers appear mostly to be the kind of people of questionable intelligence that don't have much with which to speak anyway. In this sense, intelligible content might become "swamped" by meaningless content such that the proportions may, in the future, weigh more heavily on the side of meaningless garble, but altogether, you can't simply blame the change in proportions on the Internet itself. In this regard, it would be wrong (and stupid) to "regulate (the content of) the Internet," and make usage of the Internet exclusive to scholars, scientists, engineers, and similar professionals. Instead, if anything, the people who use it should be further educated to use the Internet productively. It's much easier to regulate who gets to use it than what is actually being put on it; who knows how many similar posts has been made by educated professionals who have had particularly frustrating days (since we're all human, etc.).

This sum of factors lead me to believe that you're overreacting. The Internet is not really making communication any faster than it already is (speech vs. text messages, etc.), and any influence it may have on the future of the quality of the information being communicated can probably be attributed to more people using it incorrectly, rather than the nature of it (higher rate of exchange of information and wider audience).

Seems like it's always been this way, though. Dumb people shout incoherently, now they can shout louder. And then ignoring them just keeps on going as usual.
But it's not really like that either, so whatever.




Feb 11 2011, 9:54 pm lil-Inferno Post #6

Just here for the pie

The future of the Internet is the shoutbox?




Feb 11 2011, 9:58 pm Sand Wraith Post #7

she/her

Quote from Fire_Kame
I think over the next few years most of what will be transmitted will be advertisements. So if you're not advertising, you're being an idiot.

so if scientists aren't advertising then however many years of education they received are meaningless and they are stupid okay







/jk




Feb 11 2011, 10:00 pm Fire_Kame Post #8

wth is starcraft

I don't know about you, but I haven't seen more than four or five science sites that are bonified and free to the public. :P




Feb 11 2011, 10:40 pm Centreri Post #9

Relatively ancient and inactive

I think Rantent's being needlessly dramatic, Kame's trolling, and Wraith has the right conclusion but a weird ass-method of reaching it.

OMG is an internet expression for surprise/amazement. I don't see how this is different from an emoticon. You're taking a single phrase and somehow extrapolating that everything said on the internet in the future will be an emoticon. I don't understand this.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Feb 11 2011, 10:54 pm by Centreri.



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Feb 11 2011, 10:44 pm MillenniumArmy Post #10



Quote from Rantent
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Any thoughts?
Facebook and Twitter are the first two things that come to mind



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Feb 11 2011, 11:06 pm Centreri Post #11

Relatively ancient and inactive

Yeah, I noted what I thought the internet will actually look like in another thread on this topic that was significantly less hysterical. Internet services will be more tied into your "web identity", will be determined maybe by Facebook, maybe by Google, by Microsoft. Or maybe Facebook will develop a way to integrate them somehow. Or maybe Facebook is a phase and Google will determine your web identity. Or something like that.



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Feb 11 2011, 11:15 pm MillenniumArmy Post #12



Facebook is already like that (or on its way at an alarming rate). I saw this segment on CNBC (or was it MSNBC? I think it was CNBC) talking about Facebook having the capability of identifying you and your interests (for ads, recommended webpages, etc).



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Feb 11 2011, 11:20 pm Centreri Post #13

Relatively ancient and inactive

It's not there yet. There are rival services, some unconnected to FB - commenting services, forums, blogs, etc.



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Feb 14 2011, 4:54 am rayNimagi Post #14



There are lots of stupid people in the world. The Internet only makes them more visible.



Win by luck, lose by skill.

Apr 25 2011, 8:31 pm Tempz Post #15



Its true now that the internet has deteriorated from a place of free speech to nothing but trolls and porn addicts.
But they're some intelligent people on the internet and you just need to find them.



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