I feel that it is an insult to the people who actually deserved the award as well as the others that actually received the Nobel Peace Prize for actually showing peace. Yes, Obama is a good guy. However, I think that Obama truly didn't deserve it.

Uh, Obama didn't secretly commit a genocide, and he definitely isn't a psychotic, racist, universally-considered-evil dictator.

Like Denis Mukwege, I think the reward would have been more suitable for his kind of work.

To those who are complaining, and whining, it's not your choice to dictate who the hell should earn the Nobel Peace Prize, and it certainly isn't my choice, that's up to the Norwegian Nobel Committee.

Can you give any reasons as to why he definitely does not deserve it?

Average people that you can't point out. Mr. X is definitely more deserving.

How about we start naming some?

Can you give any reasons as to why he definitely does not deserve it?



Hitler is not universally considered evil. I for one think he was not evil, rather a very intelligent and ambitious individual. How can you even go on bashing someone you don't even know?


Can you give some reasons as to why Denis Mukwege is so much more deserving?



Anyway, yeah Obama won the award, that is great for him. I kinda wish I could get peace awards as well, this is his year for it. Come on guys, he is a nice guy.

My nominations for next year's Peace Prize are Kenny Shaefer, Tommy Rogers, and Steve Flynn.

Denis Mukwege (born circa 1955) is a Congolese gynecologist. Working in Panzi Hospital in Bukavu, where he specializes in the treatment of women who have been gang-raped by Congolese militia, Mukwege has probably become the world's leading expert on how to repair the internal physical damage caused by gang rape.[1] He has treated 21,000 women during the Congo's 12-year war, some of them more than once, performing up to 10 surgeries a day during his 18-hour working days. He has described how his patients arrive at the hospital sometimes naked, usually bleeding and leaking urine and faeces from torn vaginas.[1]
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Charles Michael "Chuck" Schuldiner (May 13, 1967 – December 13, 2001) was an American singer, songwriter, guitarist and musical genre innovator.

Schuldiner was the singer, songwriter, rhythm and lead guitarist of the band Death, which he founded in 1983, initially under the name Mantas. He is often referred to as "The Father of Death Metal",[5][6][7] and his obituary in the January 5, 2002 issue of UK's Kerrang! magazine stated that "Chuck Schuldiner was one of the most significant figures in the history of metal."[8] Schuldiner himself was modest about his part in the history of death metal, noting "I don’t think I should take the credits for this death metal stuff. I’m just a guy from a band, and I think Death is a metal band."[6]

In May 1999, Schuldiner experienced pain in his upper neck, which he initially thought was a pinched nerve. He consulted with a chiropractor followed by a massage therapist/acupuncturist who recommended an MRI Exam. He was correct about the pinched nerve; unfortunately, it was being caused by a tumor. On his birthday, May 13, 1999, Schuldiner was diagnosed with pontine glioma, a type of brain cancer that invades the brain stem, and immediately underwent radiation therapy.

In October 1999, Schuldiner’s family announced that the tumor had necrotized and that he was on the way to recovery. In January 2000, Schuldiner underwent surgery to remove what remained of his tumor. The operation was a success, however, the Schuldiner family was struggling financially. The total costs of the operations would come to $70,000, a price the Schuldiner family could not afford. Many fundraisers, auctions, and benefit concerts took place to help cover the costs. The money began to come in as the metal community, in total shock, realized that Schuldiner's life was in danger. The metal community and the Schuldiner family showed deep concern because Schuldiner could lose his life due to lack of funds. The doctors who removed his tumor called the original diagnosis of pontine glioma a misdiagnosis.

Schuldiner continued to work on his music, continuing his work with Control Denied. About two years after his original diagnosis, in May 2001, the cancer returned and Schuldiner fell ill again. He was originally denied surgery (which he needed immediately) due to lack of funds. A press release called for support from everyone, including fellow artists. Jane Schuldiner urged all who read the statements about Schuldiner and his illness to go out and get insurance, showing her frustration in the American system. Schuldiner had gotten medical insurance after his first surgery, but the insurer had refused to pay because the tumor existed before he had gotten the insurance. Many artists, including Kid Rock, Korn and Red Hot Chili Peppers, got together in Summer 2001 to auction off personal items with the funds assisting Schuldiner's medical expenses. This was covered by MTV[13]. Matt Heafy, vocalist and guitarist for Trivium has also stated that the band had played a benefit show for Schuldiner while he was in the hospital in their days as a local band.[14]. Schuldiner received a chemotherapy drug called vincristine to help with his therapy. Like most drugs used in the treatment of cancer, the side effects were harsh and weakened Chuck greatly. In late October/early November, Schuldiner became ill with pneumonia.

He died on December 13, 2001, at approximately 4 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. He was buried in Tampa, Florida on December 18, 2001 and MTV reported that famed musicians including Mike Patton, Dimebag Darrell (who was killed almost 3 years later), Glen Benton, Ville Valo, Trey Azagthoth and Max Cavalera, along with all of the former and active members of Death, attended his funeral.

* 1987: Scream Bloody Gore
* 1988: Leprosy
* 1990: Spiritual Healing
* 1991: Human
* 1993: Individual Thought Patterns
* 1995: Symbolic
* 1998: The Sound of Perseverance

Relations with Russia were not reset. The speech in Cairo didn't bring out Middle Eastern peace. Israeli-Palestinian issues weren't solved. There isn't any peace with North Korea. And the Iraq War was already effectively over when he came into office.

No, it isn't up for us to decide who it goes to. It is up to us and everyone, for that matter, to decide if the Award means anything at all anymore; decisions like this make the award less prestigious.

Anyway, yeah Obama won the award, that is great for him. I kinda wish I could get peace awards as well, this is his year for it. Come on guys, he is a nice guy.

Average people that you can't point out. Mr. X is definitely more deserving.

On surface glance, I have to agree this is premature. I can only think that, on some (maybe not so) deep level, this decision was reached in someone's bid for bolstering Obama's "moral" leverage. Seems ironic to call it a "Peace" prize, in that case.

Yes, it did reset, most particular is between Dmitry Medvedev and Obama is regarded to be more effective than Putin and Obama, and not even Putin has a problem with Obama (Even if disagreed), especially compared to Bush. Relations between Putin, and Bush just sucked. The Cairo Speech is a sign that the US are not assholes to the Middle East, and to allow the Middle East get the acknowledgement that both of Jews and Muslims suffered, and neither should have to deal war. Israeli-Palestinian issues are in progress (At least Obama is trying). Bill Clinton visiting North Korea on Obama's birthday made North Korea return the two reporters to the US, and then later North Korea back to peace talks (Earlier of this year, it was about North Korea declaring war on US, South Korea, and Japan, now that "future war" is gone). That's helping the Obama administration, especially for any future talks (Of course Bill Clinton would deserve the credit). And on Iraq War, I agree it's already over, but I'm saying that he is withdrawing troops from there; that will definitely decrease conflicts in Iraq.

What Hitler did was so disgustingly monstorous it's sickening. Fair enough he rescued the economy and regained land in 10 years, but how DARE you compare Obama to Hitler in a competition for noble peace.

It's shit like this, bringing up the revolutionary war and your nationalistic pricks that make me wish you'd all put..

Hitler hated Jews, Africans, gays, and everything else that are not German or Axis. And he is aggressive in warfare, especially against Russia.
Obama is a Liberal (In US definition, not global), he doesn't hate the Jews, African (And he IS black), gays (He isn't a homophobic, and wants gays to be accepted), and everyone else to be accepted. And he's withdrawing troops from Iraq, and earning the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama resets the US-Russian relations so we don't end up as rivals.

Also, plus, wasn't Hitler's given hope to the Germans a lot different than Obama's speech? Seriously, Hitler wanted the Germans to be proud just because they're blond, blue eyed, white people (Even Hitler wasn't blond) who are not Jewish, and wanted them to be hard. Obama clearly said in one of his speeches that the US is pretty much multiracial, and multicultural. Where else in the world would you find Asians, Hispanics, Africans, White, Middle Eastern, where all came from each different country to live in the same area? I know for sure in California where we have a dominant white, and Hispanic population, with high amounts of African, and Asian Americans (Los Angeles, San Francisco, for example) all governed by an Austrian Governor. And Obama wanted every race, gay, straight, lesbian to be treated equally.

Agreed. Krayzee, the SD forum is there for us to discuss these things.

Saying that the presidents like each other doesn't mean that relations have been reset. Russia has not pressured Iran on its nuclear program. Obama has not stopped NATO expansion. Hell, Biden actually said a weak Russia is better for the US during his visit to Ukraine. Still, though, relations are better. Definitely not reset; but better.

The Cairo speech may be a sign of something, yet him saying it means nothing. Bush made nice speeches too; speeches mean nothing. When Obama's speeches actually improve the Middle East, let me know. As far as I can tell, the countries that disliked America still dislike America, and those that liked America like it less (Israel).

Palestinian-Israeli issues are always in progress. Again, until he DOES something with it, it's not an argument for him deserving the prize.

About North Korea, why the hell would you think that NK would declare war? Everyone knows that it'd get annihilated, and Kim Jung Il likes being president. It said these things before; Iran's said these things before. And, really, two journalists? Is that what you're basing Obama's progress on, when it wasn't even him who did it?

About the Iraq war... No, the war is over, you don't know whether keeping troops will help or hurt.

They're not the same. But they both did good things. Hitler did well in first ten years; Obama did well in first year. Again, he doesn't reset relations; He says he tries to reset relations. Quite a difference.

Seems like Hitler and Obama both did their best to make their people feel superior.

And this topic was moved to null, regarding about the Nobel Peace Prize.

My point is that relations are getting better between US-Russian relationship. I'm not talking about those issues.

As far as I can tell, there are people over there that recognized Obama is no threat, and there are people who, like always, questions the government. Who shouldn't? And as far as I know, many people (not all) at Cairo loved the speech.

As I said, at least he's trying. (Referring to Israeli-Palestinian)

You're out of touch aren't you? Early this year, there were tensions of North Korea declaring war on the US, SK, and Japan. And I already stated that Bill Clinton would take that credit about the two journalists, I'm stating that eventually Obama administration, along with China, South Korea, and Japan would try to ease tensions on nuclear talks because of that aftermath.

We shouldn't been to Iraq in the first place, and I'm certain withdrawing troops will help. I'm certain. And I said the war is over, in fact I said I agreed. And you repeated it as if you didn't read it, and only saw the word "Iraq"?

Say? What do you mean, "say"? Yes, first he said, then Hillary Clinton had a 'figurative' reset button with her Russian counterpart, then later agreements and relations did improve. Therefore, he did.

I said they were "A LOT DIFFERENT". Obama didn't try to make Americans feel superior (I would say "Confident", not superior) if any comparison to the Nazis. So, a united (Multiracial, multicultural, accepting people who the hell they are), peaceful, better world is the definition of feeling superior? You are totally missed the point, and how can you miss that?

At any chance, how did you reply like that? I have a feeling my post would be edited because of this, so instead I double facepalmed. To top it all off, way to add a rolling eyes smilie. I'm going to stop now, since you're the same person that whined and complained, that eventually got my forum game topic locked. And you are the very same person who argued against me in another topic that was absolutely irrelevant to the discussion. In fact, I can compare about the Nobel Peace Prize, and my forum game topic. You whined, and complained simply because you were a small nation who couldn't pwn other players, then continuously argued pointlessly and got my topic locked, regardless that it was my choice whether or not you would be able to have any chance of invading and winning "just like that", not you. And this topic, you seem to complain that Obama does not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize, but that was the Norwegian Nobel Committee's choice, and people like you happen to dictate who deserves it or not. Man, you're annoying.

I agree with Shocko on this. Germany's economic recovery in the 1930s was not based on a consumer economy, but one progressively geared for war production. If you need tanks, planes, munitions, uniforms and the apparatus of a police state then you are going to have to create a lot of jobs and cause industry to expand. Without the spoils of war in the near future, the Nazi economy would have run into the ground and, and as the purpose of the economic rebuilding was aggression rather than peaceful prosperity I think any arguments for his positive effect on Germany sound a bit hollow.