Agreed. Krayzee, the SD forum is there for us to discuss these things.
And this topic was moved to null, regarding about the Nobel Peace Prize.
Saying that the presidents like each other doesn't mean that relations have been reset. Russia has not pressured Iran on its nuclear program. Obama has not stopped NATO expansion. Hell, Biden actually said a weak Russia is better for the US during his visit to Ukraine. Still, though, relations are better. Definitely not reset; but better.
The Cairo speech may be a sign of something, yet him saying it means nothing. Bush made nice speeches too; speeches mean nothing. When Obama's speeches actually improve the Middle East, let me know. As far as I can tell, the countries that disliked America still dislike America, and those that liked America like it less (Israel).
Palestinian-Israeli issues are always in progress. Again, until he DOES something with it, it's not an argument for him deserving the prize.
About North Korea, why the hell would you think that NK would declare war? Everyone knows that it'd get annihilated, and Kim Jung Il likes being president. It said these things before; Iran's said these things before. And, really, two journalists? Is that what you're basing Obama's progress on, when it wasn't even him who did it?
About the Iraq war... No, the war is over, you don't know whether keeping troops will help or hurt.
My point is that relations are getting better between US-Russian relationship. I'm not talking about those issues.
As far as
I can tell, there are people over there that recognized Obama is no threat, and there are people who, like always, questions the government. Who shouldn't? And as far as I know, many people (not all) at Cairo loved the speech.
As I said, at least he's trying. (Referring to Israeli-Palestinian)
You're out of touch aren't you? Early this year, there were tensions of North Korea declaring war on the US, SK, and Japan. And I already stated that Bill Clinton would take that credit about the two journalists, I'm stating that eventually Obama administration, along with China, South Korea, and Japan would try to ease tensions on nuclear talks because of that aftermath.
We shouldn't been to Iraq in the first place, and I'm certain withdrawing troops will help. I'm certain. And I said the war is over, in fact I said
I agreed. And you repeated it as if you didn't read it, and only saw the word "Iraq"?
They're not the same. But they both did good things. Hitler did well in first ten years; Obama did well in first year. Again, he doesn't reset relations; He says he tries to reset relations. Quite a difference.
Say? What do you mean, "say"? Yes, first he said, then Hillary Clinton had a 'figurative' reset button with her Russian counterpart, then later agreements and relations did improve. Therefore, he did.
Seems like Hitler and Obama both did their best to make their people feel superior.
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I said they were "A LOT DIFFERENT". Obama didn't try to make Americans feel superior (I would say "
Confident", not superior) if any comparison to the Nazis. So, a united (Multiracial, multicultural, accepting people who the hell they are), peaceful, better world is the definition of feeling superior? You are totally missed the point, and how can you miss that?
At any chance, how did you reply like that? I have a feeling my post would be edited because of this, so instead I double facepalmed. To top it all off, way to add a rolling eyes smilie. I'm going to stop now, since you're the same person that whined and complained, that eventually got my forum game topic locked. And you are the very same person who argued against me in another topic that was absolutely
irrelevant to the discussion. In fact, I can compare about the Nobel Peace Prize, and my forum game topic. You whined, and complained simply because you were a small nation who couldn't pwn other players, then continuously argued pointlessly and got my topic locked, regardless that it was my choice whether or not you would be able to have any chance of invading and winning "just like that", not you. And this topic, you seem to complain that Obama does not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize, but that was the Norwegian Nobel Committee's choice, and people like you happen to dictate who deserves it or not. Man, you're annoying.
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