That's why he has the secondary Bunker with Ghosts.

i like how u think this will make the summoner able to use his summons at will. First off the building has to stay up (since when does a assim ever stay up long enough?). Secondly the summoner needs to reach it to recieve the bonus (since when does the summoner leave the base lol). third there will be cooldown (so it wont be like infinite mana). Finally new spells (this should direct his mana needs to better his spells. Hopefully!)

There are geysers inside both bases, plus the outposts. And I realize it wouldn't be constant mana, but summoner with a cap of 8, possibly 6 lings, wouldn't need much mana. He would only need mana if new spells work and get him to come out early/mid game. If he continues with base sitting, an extra 50 mana every now and then would be plenty to replace lost lings.

but with the reduced ling cap and speed upgrades costing more (in my opinion they should be removed) the summoner would need more upgrades for lings to be as effective, which means the mineral sim would be more valuable since it gives constant minerals and the mana leveling gives constant mana on the move.

I for one think summoner is just fine as it is now... although I'm not sure on it's new l2 & l3....

I only agree on the uselessness of L2, however L3 is kinda overpowered for trapping and killing nonmelee units

I was wondering, UnHolyUrine, are you going to make a Temple Siege for SC2 when it comes out? Or are you going to continue modifying this one?

With the type of power the SC2 editor has, the next generation of Temple Siege maps would be truly epic and complex.

EDIT: TS in SC2.. we'll see...
There will probably be tons of competition, and other maps may be even better than what I can conceive (actually, this is more likely than me producing a TS SCII)
And, even if I do decide to make TS in SC2, it'd be much later... at least until I'm VERY comfortable with the new editor.

But yeah.. it'd be awesome

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Sep 4 2009, 6:03 pm by UnholyUrine.

well i hope SOMEBODY steps up to make a good pvp ums. the alleged power of the new editor would be such an epic waste if all it went toward was making defense maps.

Just because you said that, I propose that all of us mapmakers make only defense maps in StarCraft II.

Just reporting a cool game I had earlier tonight. I was Phantom, and had a few unique events happen that I haven't done before. Was fun.

First, I was quick when calling L2 and manually attacking, and got two shots off with one spell. Then later, I guess to even it out I called it and it didnt fire at all. Dunno why. Also, was fighting a ling, and one time I had him and he burrowed and ran later to escape. Later, he tried it again, but I had my l3 this time, so I stood over him, triggered and killed him when he came up.

BTW, killer, gg.

I'm in! Defense games shall rule the earth!
Noob Defense,
Sunken Defense,
The AMAZING TURRET Defense,
Tank Defense,
Pick your Defense,
Random Item Defense,
Black Hole Defense,
Cannon Defense,
Tofu Defense,
Mind Control Defense,
Tarpit Defense,
Edit: Poker Defense,
Edit: Super Mario Defense,
and all the other defense games that are not listed here!

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Sep 8 2009, 11:14 pm by OlimarandLouie.

What chance is there of items being included? If there was a shop where you could buy items, such as a Magis Staff that increases mana regen, or armour that gives invincibility every couple of seconds for hale a second, etc.?

it says that there will be item support in sc2, and item s would be a good thing to add... 1+ for items.

I mean for SC BW.

I say go with the Pokemon system - heroes can get one item at a time, and can get a new one if they're willing to ditch the old one. The item is a one-usage thing that expires when triggered, and depending on the item the player can either trigger its effect or it activates automatically.

As a bit of foresight, I recall the Terran Starport builds five units, so if needed you could use the Starport for the Spell activator thing, with four of the units activating spells, and the fifth activating an item.

I was thinking mostly passive items, that do stuff to you no matter what, but maybe a dropship system would work for activatable items. That allows more than 1 item too. But it would change gameplay a bit. Not so much that everythhng would need rebalancing though, especially if the items were 50-300 mins depending on what it was. HP and mana potions would be interesting...

There will be no items until SC2... that's because SC1 REALLY don't support items very well...

@easz's comment of dragoon's l4.. the Void Shifter also shifts the void under itself, so your L2 and L3 spells will actually be activated where your arbiter is, instead of where your dragoon is... I will be tweaking the dragoon a bit more..