Night will end at 10:00 PM (EST) tonight, assuming I'm not asleep by then. Get your actions in, people.

Im surprised TZ put such an obvious clue to angel. and poison, that is good logic. I actually truthfully thought DM was mafia because of his role in last game, cept TZ accidentily put his name in pink, but if ashamed is right, and payne and "random letter guy" arent mafia, then I wouldn't be surprised if madroc is mafia because of the easy "climb" clue. or one of the people with cat avatars.

Mafia would vote for mafia, if it's clear mafia would lose anyway. Don't forget, we don't know if DM's mafia yet, but people voted for him.

Raccoon, I tried complete logic with incomplete information. I'll use probability, even assuming my logic to be good: the probability that payne and Zxb are both Mafia is 1/15. I don't really like those odds.

I went off half-cocked, so it is more than likely incorrect, especially when TZ allowed the post. I wish to apologize to fellow townies, and ily guys.

Guys i do believe that poison is not mafia, he just made a simple mistake,
Trust me!

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Aug 11 2009, 12:08 am by Ashamed.

it is very true that the chances of them both being mafia are low, but i think even if they are both mafia, TZ wouldve still allowed you to post it.

He WILL die. I'm perfectly ok with telling you my role (it's not mafia XD), since I'm going to die anyway, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed =/.

I AM MAFIA!

Oh wait...

you are allowed to tell people your role. but if you are doctor or anything special, then don't. doesn't matter who you trust or not. just dont.

ok before tonight ends i need everyone to know that im pretty sure the other mafia is madroc.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Aug 11 2009, 12:32 am by Ashamed.

Ashamed, may I remind you how this exact same logic on the last game of Mafia ended? You were wrong...
Also, may I ask people what happened to me last mafia game? I had good clues against Vrael, but people kept wanting to kill me to "know how JaFF's clues worked" (which would have been much more relevant by lynching Vrael, but anyways, not my fault if they lack logic). I finally got killed and what was I? A townie! Was I trying to flame with other people to draw attention away from myself? Yes. Your reasoning fails, period.

Poison, do you really want me to quote each and every mafia game where mafia voted against each other to draw attention away from themselves? Assuming they wouldn't ever vote for themselves is stupid: there were games where the totality of the players voted for a player to get lynched, that would imply that there wouldn't be any mafia in this game? Rofl... again, your reasoning fails, period.
Also, may I point out how you said a Mafia wouldn't vote for an other mafia while I was the very first to post clue interpretation which included clues against an other mafia: xAngelSpiritx? Again, your reasoning fails, period.

Doctors, if you aren't stupid, you'll decide to protect the guy that is trying to save up your ass by posting logical clue interpretations.

And, by the way, once again, Madroc is most likely to be a mafia, forget DM, we cannot waste a townie!

I'm infested and I'm attacking poison_us .

Payne i was grouped with the best group in the last mafia game, and we won? I don't know what you are talking about... I told them to kill vrael so dont say stuff that is wrong, and if you looked at my post i changed who i thought it was.

Please payne every game you try to be smart, but you turn out to be stupid, the last mafia game i did say you at first. But if you looked i changed my vote to vrael and i even said you were most likly a townie and if you were not it didn't really matter yet.
So please if payne tells anyone anything don't listen to him. He does not know what he is talking about.
Only thing that he has right is madroc, which i already said.

So, uh, should I kill payne instead then, since according to you poison isn't mafia?

poison_us, your logic is flawed. As Zxblqcktptyjsplkn said, mafia will vote for mafia in certain cases.

YES FTW we know his logic is flawed, we already proved that to him. So how about we get back to the clues and the game...?

Pure... bullshit! Ashamed, you seems to think you participated much to the townie's victory in the last mafia game, but it's really only and stricly Lethal_Illusion and Kaias that made it. Also, may I remind you you were not in the group which had the boondock saint that killed Vrael?
Also, I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about you trying to figure out who was the mafia based off suspicious moves and all. Every single try you did was a fail, and for Vrael, it wasn't hard at all to see that he was a mafia and you had to choose between me or Vrael... no one would have voted anyone but for myself or Vrael, that would have been completely out because the whole attention was over me trying to protect myself.
You might also find interesting how, for once, I'm not doing stupid moves nor entering into bandwagons. I don't really know why you guys kept voting for xAngelSpiritx in despite of the clues I had posted against madroc and that were much more obvious, but anyways...
For once I seems to be the only smart townie, don't try to make me pass like a fool based off what you think is now a reality: the past mafia game. I learned a lot from that game and I changed completely my strategy.
Ashamed, I do not dislike you, but please, don't tell I'm stupid because right now, you are the one that is retarded to say such a thing about me...

Also, just to stress out some shit you did in the last games, here we are:
Oh! Good job! You just jumped into 1) a suspicion based off nothing (Vrael) and 2) a bandwagon created by an intellectual with a poor clue.
Also, your reasoning after listing me and Vrael is completely stupid...
Huh, more stupid reasoning? Trying to figure out who are the mafia shouldn't be suspicious, my dear.
I never voted for you as mayor.
Simply... lol? Seriously... you'd be about to get lynched, you wouldn't try to defend yourself? -.-
It's funny how you posted this after the day post where you could see my name in green, lol!

There was one clue against me while this whole shit was against Vrael and I still got lynched: http://www.staredit.net/161473/. Yes, I was useless to the game acting so retarded, but now, I'm back with wiser moves. Stop assuming I am stupid, please?

Again, I do not hate you, Ashamed Also, thank you for [ulr=http://www.staredit.net/161612/]this[/url] post <3
All I'm trying to do is to defend myself reducing your arguments to nothing which could only be done by quoting your pasts actions

Guys, seriously, vote for Madroc!

Also, I had a nice defence for myself, but no one cared because they were all stick to the fact that I was useless/mafia: http://www.staredit.net/161738/ How cute!, it turned out to be true! Statistics win!

@JesusFreak: The wisest move would be to target Madroc since he's most likely to be a mafia. Like this, you save a townie instead of trying to kill other "less-confirmed" as mafia, maybe making the death list of the town aligned people bigger :S

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Aug 11 2009, 3:09 am by payne.

[color=#DFA51C]So if you survive the night, will you get off my back?

1 is not true.. last time i voted for madzombie so as to make suspicion against me less.

The fact that you've been posting so much makes me think you're mafia. And maybe ashamed. If i die tonight, heed my words you townies!!

and i dont think payne is mafia but not sure

lol payne i don't hate you either ><! Ha I just like giving you a hard time. Because if you looked at my post i kinda said you as a joke.
One: i only mensioned you once.
Two: I had two other people I said were Mafia. So how could you be mafia there is only two people.

Its all in good sport payne!

No? Surviving to this night could be caused by many things:
1) A doctor saved my ass
2) You tried, as a mafia, to reduce suspicion over by not hitting the player that is mainly against you
3) Other scenarios which I do not feel like typing in because they should all be easy to figure out

You'll stay #1 on my list until I see the next clues. I do not base myself over behaviour anymore, I'm now a purely rational player Hope you do not get clues against you

@Ashamed: <3