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Hypertrigger failure
So I made this retarded map out of boredom when a snowstorm confined me to my crib back in Jan'08. It's about disabled units dancing in a twilight dome to a gay techno song while lights flicker. I got hypers on but for some reason the lights (corsair explosions) don't occur consistently as I coded the triggers. They're supposed to explode diagonally on 5 different locations on each side with a 500-millisecond delay between each hop and repeat, but it takes 5 seconds before the next loop begins. Also, the hydra is roaming around (JYD) as if hyper triggers were off. I'm curious, where's the flaw?
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Quote from xYoshix
It seems like you are experiencing wait blocks. Use Death Counters instead.
Ok, so I set a death count to reset at 6 (for 500 milliseconds) everytime it reaches 0 and decrease by 1 if it has above 0, but how exactly do I work this into my corsair explosions?
Currently it's something like:
If switch 5 is set
Create 1 corsair at L1
Create 1 corsair at R1
Kill all any unit at L1
Kill all any unit at R1
Wait 500 milliseconds
...
I can't use death counts as an action.
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Set Deaths is the action, Deaths is the condition, replace that Wait 500 with a Death Count Timer and that should fix your problem.
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The explosions are even less functioning now. Here's the code:
Code
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 60);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L5");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R5");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 54);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L4");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R4");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 48);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L3");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R3");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 42);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L2");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R2");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 36);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L1");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R1");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 30);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L1");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R1");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 24);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L2");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R2");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 18);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L3");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R3");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 12);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L4");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R4");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 6);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L5");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R5");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 60);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L5");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R5");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 54);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L4");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R4");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 48);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L3");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R3");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 42);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L2");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R2");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 36);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L1");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R1");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 30);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L1");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R1");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 24);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L2");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R2");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 18);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L3");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R3");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 12);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L4");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R4");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch5", set);
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 6);
Actions:
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "L5");
Create Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair", 1, "R5");
Kill Unit("Player 7", "Protoss Corsair");
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
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You need a trigger that constantly adds 1 DC. At the end, you have to reset it back to 0 and clear the switch.
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I do, only I subtract instead of add.
Code
Trigger("All players"){
Conditions:
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 0);
Actions:
Set Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Set To, 60);
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("All players"){
Conditions:
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", At least, 1);
Actions:
Set Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Subtract, 1);
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Conditions:
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Exactly, 0);
Actions:
Set Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Set To, 60);
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("All players"){
Conditions:
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", At least, 1);
Actions:
Set Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Subtract, 1);
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
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Well, then is Switch 5 set?
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Yup:
Code
Trigger("Player 7"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch3", set);
Actions:
Order("Player 7", "Hunter Killer (Hydralisk)", "Anywhere", "Hydra1", move);
Set Switch("Switch3", clear);
Set Switch("Switch4", set);
Set Switch("Switch5", set);
}
Conditions:
Switch("Switch3", set);
Actions:
Order("Player 7", "Hunter Killer (Hydralisk)", "Anywhere", "Hydra1", move);
Set Switch("Switch3", clear);
Set Switch("Switch4", set);
Set Switch("Switch5", set);
}
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Oh, I think I see the problem.
That trigger subtracts 1 death from every player 8 times, because it is under "all players". Thus, many of your Create Corsair triggers never run, because the amount of deaths in the condition is skipped.
Change the "Set Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Subtract, 1);" to "Set Deaths("Current Player", "Alan Turret", Subtract, 1);", and change "Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", At least, 1);" to Deaths("Current player", "Alan Turret", At least, 1);".
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on May 10 2009, 1:15 am by ForTheSwarm.
Code
Trigger("All players"){
Conditions:
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", At least, 1);
Actions:
Set Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Subtract, 1);
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Conditions:
Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", At least, 1);
Actions:
Set Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Subtract, 1);
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
That trigger subtracts 1 death from every player 8 times, because it is under "all players". Thus, many of your Create Corsair triggers never run, because the amount of deaths in the condition is skipped.
Change the "Set Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", Subtract, 1);" to "Set Deaths("Current Player", "Alan Turret", Subtract, 1);", and change "Deaths("All players", "Alan Turret", At least, 1);" to Deaths("Current player", "Alan Turret", At least, 1);".
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on May 10 2009, 1:15 am by ForTheSwarm.
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Ok now it's SLOOWWWW, hops maybe every 5 seconds.
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Whoops, I forgot one thing. I edited my post; change the condition to what I said, and try it again.
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I did, I replaced all Set Deaths("All players to Set Deaths("Current player But I found the problem, the death counter is decreasing once every second instead of every 84 ms like the wiki explained. Hypers are enabled and everything.
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We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch
Quote from Xpenguin17
I did, I replaced all Set Deaths("All players to Set Deaths("Current player But I found the problem, the death counter is decreasing once every second instead of every 84 ms like the wiki explained. Hypers are enabled and everything.
- You have another wait somewhere blocking the hypers rendering them useless
- You've set up the hypers wrong
Try giving the hypers to a single computer player that runs no other waits.
Also make sure you have 3 triggers with 62 waits and a preserve each (and optionally a comment).
Ohh k, I have many waits in other triggers, but not pertaining to the corsair explosions. If this still gives my map the wait block syndrome, should I rip out every line with "wait?"
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We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch
Read the wiki about wait blocks I linked above. I posted it for a reason.
Yeah, any waits in the same player as the hypertriggers will cause them to mess up, and even 2 waits will mess up eachother if they run at the same time, so you may want to transfer them all over to death counts.
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you can still use waits that are from 1-300 miliseconds. I always use waits that long and it never screws anything up while using hypers.
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Quote from samsizzle
you can still use waits that are from 1-300 miliseconds. I always use waits that long and it never screws anything up while using hypers.
Kickass, I was about to ask how I can tune the deathcount to precision. The song is 7266 ms and 85 death ticks is about 7203 ms. Now I would add "Wait 63 milliseconds" somewhere but so far attempts have failed and just made the song overlap. Any suggestions on how to incorporate it properly?
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