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Jan 5 2009, 9:58 am
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Jan 6 2009, 5:21 pm Madroc Post #41



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i've wondered that, cause sometimes it seems like everyone around you is all in on somthing that you are completely obilivious to and things sometimes work out very well, almost as if someone planned it that way

beep boop, he's onto us, beep boop

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Too bad it's not always like that.
True, sometimes I think there's a god or something who does us favors from time to time. Its motivation for doing this is to get more people to believe in it, which it knows is a hard task because of its limited powers.



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Jan 6 2009, 5:24 pm Doodan Post #42



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Too bad it's not always like that.
Its motivation for doing this is to get more people to believe in it, which it knows is a hard task because of its limited powers.
Some God...

Or maybe shit we like happens sometimes and shit we don't like happens sometimes.



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Jan 6 2009, 6:34 pm Kellimus Post #43



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There's no such thing as right and wrong.

But in Religion, there is!!!!


Its all perception-based anyways.. One thing someone deems is 'wrong', another person deems is 'right'

For example, I think its right/okay to smoke Marijuana in the safety of my own home.. The government things its wrong/not okay to smoke it in the safety of my own home.

Therefore, different perceptions, different results...

Which is why there are no right or wrongs ;)



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Jan 6 2009, 8:13 pm Dapperdan Post #44



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There's no such thing as right and wrong.
Right and Wrong exists...
What are they? Who decides them? Define them.

Just if you are right or wrong.. maybe you stick to that without any reason...
well, for example, you cannot say that 1+1 = 3 is right. It's wrong. So you can't say that wrong and right doesn't exists...

That's only because math is based on axioms. And within that set of axioms 1 + 1 = 2, not 3. That doesn't really address the problem we were discussing. On another note, the 'right' and 'wrong' that was up for discussion seemed to be most synonymous with 'moral' and 'immoral'. Not objective values like 'correct' and 'incorrect' as you seemed to be using them.

What we're getting at here is: who's to say that any given action in the world is 'right' or 'wrong'?



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Jan 6 2009, 8:18 pm NudeRaider Post #45

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

right: Doing something for the good of all and everything
wrong: Being selfish




Jan 6 2009, 8:22 pm Lord Malvanis Post #46



Right and Wrong are defined by the people using them.
For example a priest: Reading the bible would be right.
For a psycotic killer: Stabbing your victim with a knife repeatedly would be right.
For a kid: Screaming at your teacher would be wrong.
For a self-conscious person: Staying fat would be wrong.

Everyone has a different opinion for right and wrong, there is no exact definition.



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Jan 6 2009, 8:29 pm ClansAreForGays Post #47



My mouth is watering at how much that can be destroyed.
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right: Doing something for the good of all and everything
So then the end DOES justify the means! Eugenics here we come!
And what is 'good'? Anything that isn't selfish?
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wrong: Being selfish
Putting yourself before another. Feeding yourself when you know there is someone else out there that would benefit from you giving your food/resources to them. 99% of what we do is selfish. Should we really be looking down upon ourselves for 99% of the things we do? What's really so wrong with reading a book?




Jan 6 2009, 9:00 pm Forsaken Archer Post #48



The end does justify the means, usually :)
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What we're getting at here is: who's to say that any given action in the world is 'right' or 'wrong'?
I think it's usually common sense. Killing/stealing = wrong, helping someone stranded on the road, respect your elders = good. Sure, there are some gray and neutral areas, depending on motivations for doing such actions. But if you know the motivations, then you already know if the acts will be right or wrong.

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Putting yourself before another. Feeding yourself when you know there is someone else out there that would benefit from you giving your food/resources to them. 99% of what we do is selfish. Should we really be looking down upon ourselves for 99% of the things we do? What's really so wrong with reading a book?
99% of what we do is usually neutral. Reading a book isn't right or wrong or selfish. I would generally define selfish as doing anything to get more than you need at the expensive of stepping on people who are worse off. Feeding yourself isn't selfish.



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Jan 6 2009, 9:13 pm Conspiracy Post #49



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2. I believe there is something after death. As far as we can tell, we, humans, are the only ones with a consciousness. Any other animal acts on instinct and learned behavior. I believe in heaven, however me and another friend talked extensively about reincarnation-like possibilities. Have you ever visited a place you've never gone before but somehow know or met someone who you know, but have never met? Ever get constant dreams of either? Any hard-core deja vu feelings, but you've never experienced the act before to even think you are just in a weird situation that happened to repeat itself? Sometimes I can tell you what's going to happen in the next 5 minutes based on such. Who is going to say and do what. And that is a pretty fucked up feeling.

Ever played Assassins Creed? They explain that as the 90% of our Chromosomes we DON'T use, we store memories from our ancestors. This I believe is entirely plausible.

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Right and Wrong exists...

Only in the sense of our perception of Right and wrong. These are standards set by the human race.

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I think it's usually common sense. Killing/stealing = wrong, helping someone stranded on the road, respect your elders = good. Sure, there are some gray and neutral areas, depending on motivations for doing such actions. But if you know the motivations, then you already know if the acts will be right or wrong.

Standards of the human race.

1. Yes. Its all psychological.
2. My personal belief, nothing. We are cells that have come together to work to thrive on this planet. When you die, your cells DNA is insufficient to reproduce, therefore unable to create new cells, and you die, as if you were nothing.



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