I've always wondered why it seems that only men are the perpetrators of violent acts like rape.
Recently, a friend of mine came to me talking about his own research in Female Pedophilia, or the sexual abuse of children by women. What I learned from her that day shocked and surprised me. Trying to introduce myself into Serious Discussion brought back these memories and motivated me to do further research upon this subject and here are my results (French sources, sorry you can use Google Translator if you're really willing to read them to confirm my sources):

Based of this source, 22% of sexual abuse crimes against children are done by women, and 80% of these women have been abused in their life. 65% of the children abused by women are little girls.
Another source (here) states that in half of the total number of child abuse cases, a woman is involved, and also that most of these cases would not have occurred if the women involved had been alone during the incident. Women grouped with others with a similar pathology have an increased chance of abusing children.

I've also listened to an audio file of approximately 17 minutes (an interview about a French book talking of this subject, in fact) which mentioned that the women acknowledge their guilt much more easily than men, which means that they seem to know that their actions were not good for the child. The audio file spoke about Angers' lawsuit, one of the biggest pedophilia's trials of recent history which involved 27 women of 56 accused.

All of this information startled me: I was sure that women had a much bigger involvement than I thought in such matters, but not that much.

I would like to end this with a quote from a girl in the second source: "Mom, I will not ever understand. You, dad, I pardon you..."
It is pretty philosophical and could lead to different interpretations. To me, after reading/hearing all this information, it seems like women always were over-protected from the justice system and the general morality/ethics of our society: I do understand that when a couple divorces, the woman has more chances of keeping the kids, but it is not normal that there are so little chances for the dad to keep them. It is irrational to me.

Finally, this whole thing was mostly to develop over an underground case of the general pity given to women... what do you think of it?
You can also discuss about my little research if you want to.

Once again, thanks to Vrael for correcting <3

EDIT: Added sources xD

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Aug 10 2009, 9:21 pm by payne.

I was confused by this opener. Despite pedophilia being a form of rape, I usually equate rape to the adult-on-adult kind, so this alone was interesting to think about. I even chuckled thinking, "isn't it obvious from a sexual standpoint?" But then I realized where you were coming from and why.

That's actually a really interesting topic. I know a few women who have been sexually assaulted at a young age, and all were by men. Good work.

It was weird seeing you talk about rape and chuckling in the same response

But I've always thought about this myself, and you've done some good research.

What does this make you think of?
It seems like mother are so denatured by the society that seeing them accomplish such an act seems monstrous to our eyes while it's seems like it is "pardonable" to a men because people assume it is in their nature.
While this sentence said by a little girl is very deep, it also show how much we still need to make progress: women are just like men. Stop saying only men think about sex, girls do too, and probably even more, but in secret. I'm pretty sure that "romantic" feel given to women is once again a lure from the actual society's thoughts which lead us to some cliché that do modulate women's mind to fit in it. By having this thought, we force women to become what the whole society think they should be (wow, this is so radical xD).

Well it goes with that old question, can a woman rape a man? A woman can seduce a man, but not necessarily force him to have an erection and then keep him pinned as she has her way. So yeah, I laughed. Go me!

Actually, the erection only requires stimulation and do not need to be wanted. If a woman that you dislike and you wouldn't want to make love with would start to stimulate your penis without your consent, you would get an erection.
The problem with the word "rape" is that it includes vaginal penetration and ejaculation which isn't always the case with the kind of rape we are talking of. Maybe you get an erection easily, but the ejaculation may not come along with it

I suppose, though I tend to think that your brain has a bigger role than that. If you don't want to be aroused, you can prevent it.

This topic is about the abuse of children by women, and otherwise the lack of knowledge about violent crimes perpetrated by women. This topic is not about sexual arousal or who can rape who. Keep to the subject matter at hand, please.

Testosterone is responsible for the human sex drive. Both men and women produce the hormone, but obviously men have a lot more of it.

The reason for the lack of knowledge is because it happens less often.

Men are more likely to be sexual predators, period.

Can you really consider that 1/4 of the child abuses being done by women is enough to justify the lack of knowledge about such a subject?
Now to mention that half of the accused in the lawsuit of the case Angers were women

Interesting bit of sexism here: When a male teacher is in a relationship with an underage girl, it is "disgusting and horrible", when a woman does it everyone goes "But why couldn't I have done that?!". Oh ha ha ha, the lucky bastard!

Society assumes alot of things. For one thing, it assumes only males can be proactive in a relationship (the female teacher obviously didn't start it!). It also assumes that women cannot force themselves on males (they're too tough!). And even worse it fails to acknowledge these cases as even pedophilia, they're just "lucky scores". So, even when it's with young girls, these cases of sexual abuse perpetrated by women go under-reported.

Just look at murder cases on the news: According to coverage by most major news channels and papers, most murders are children. Wrong!!! The most common victims of murder are under age one or over age 20. But news coverage says 10 year olds are killed the most. Just idiotic.

I don't understand where you're coming from... Males are unattractive, so being taken advantage of by one would be horrible, but on the other hand a Hot School Teacher is basically something that every heterosexual male wishes he could hook up with at one point or another during his life. Therefore, said hot school teacher forcing herself on a young male is indeed a 'lucky score' as you have put it because it is usually welcomed.

Also, you're missing any source of credibility for your murder statistics ><

Really? Most teacher/student relationships I hear about are with female teachers, and I never hear anything remotely close to "But why couldn't I have done that?!" Usually I hear about the famous cases of the pair falling in love as the teacher goes off to prison for years, and that is usually a female (i.e. Mary Kay Letourneau). And it seems like most of the time it's with an early teenage male, so given the nature of boys at that age, it doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to influence them to perform any act.

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Some more use of sources and less use of anecdotal evidence would be of great service to this topic's stay in the SD forum. Note: this is not directed at any one person or else I'd have sent a pm.