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Anyway to make Hallucinations not move?
Oct 18 2008, 6:05 pm
By: Hug A Zergling  

Oct 18 2008, 6:05 pm Hug A Zergling Post #1



I need a player to own a hallucination and for it not to move on its own. It can only move by being created at a location, by an ob (controlled by another player)

I hope that explains it
P.S I edited this post to add details.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 18 2008, 8:02 pm by Hug A Zergling.



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Oct 18 2008, 7:19 pm Lucky.307 Post #2



I don't know if this works since its hallucinated but try it I guess.
Conditions:
Player 1 brings exactly 1 "Marine" to Location "Dont move"
Actions:
Order all "Marines" owned by Player 1 at location "Dont move" to "Move" to location "Dont move"
Preserve Triggers

I believe hyper triggers are needed.



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Oct 18 2008, 8:04 pm Falkoner Post #3



What Lucky said should work perfectly, you can also constantly move it there, or constantly move it to an implaceable area, and that should stop it, also, do you need this to be for ONLY the hallucination? Or is it fine if it would do the same thing to a normal unit?



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Oct 18 2008, 8:59 pm Biophysicist Post #4



I'm pretty sure Bring and Command don't detect Hallucinations.



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Oct 18 2008, 9:14 pm NudeRaider Post #5

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

I'm pretty sure Cars and Bicycles have wheels.

If your question really is how to stop non hallucinated units of that type also being immobilzed then the answer is give the units in question to another player (hallus cannot be given) before teleporting the hallucinations.
But this will deselect. And since you have to repeat it all the time to effectively immobilze you will lose control of the real units.
So i recommend to give the real units to another player and then move them outside the immobilize location and give them back there. This isn't a very nice solution but I can't think of another way right now.




Oct 19 2008, 3:25 am Hug A Zergling Post #6



Easiest way to explain it is that Im trying to make it look like another player has control over your hallucination.



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Oct 19 2008, 9:30 am NudeRaider Post #7

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

Easiest answer is: Give them orders/teleport them all the time.

Problem is: Non-hallucinated will copy that behavior.

Solution is: Give the units (hallus can't be given) to another player to treat them differently.


Oh and and another possible solution just came to my mind: Follow the hallus with 1x1 pixel locations. This can obviously easiest done with preplaced hallucinations. If you want to know more you would have to tell us more about how and where the hallucinations are created.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 19 2008, 9:35 am by NudeRaider.




Oct 19 2008, 4:15 pm Devourer Post #8

Hello

Quote from Hug A Zergling
I need a player to own a hallucination and for it not to move on its own. It can only move by being created at a location, by an ob (controlled by another player)

I hope that explains it
P.S I edited this post to add details.

btw... for the location
however you are going to make it, conditions CAN NOT detect halluzinations!!!!!!

but there is an other way:
locations can be moved on halluz, so make some borruwed units to detect where the hallu is, if you want to do sth like that



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Oct 19 2008, 7:13 pm Hug A Zergling Post #9



Is there any other way I can make it appear like you have a Hallucination, but it is controlled by another player?



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Oct 19 2008, 7:43 pm rockz Post #10

ᴄʜᴇᴇsᴇ ɪᴛ!

Yes, give it to the other player who has the same color as you.



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Oct 19 2008, 10:49 pm Vi3t-X Post #11



Player X commands at least 2 "Bleh".
Order Move all "Bleh" to location "Meh".
Only problem is, this forces your hero to move too. Lucky's idea should work though.



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Oct 19 2008, 10:57 pm Tank_7 Post #12



Well since you are making them different players it should work fine. Create 1 Vulture for Player 1 Create 1 Vulture for Player 2 With Properties: Hallucinated and just like... Always Center A Location on Player 2's Vulture and Move/Order it. I know it will work cause in one of my maps you can create hallucinations of your character but then abilities and stuff come out of the left-most unit even if its a hallucination! lols.



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Oct 20 2008, 1:16 am Hug A Zergling Post #13



Maybe I wasn't clear. I want it to be blue. It has to look like someone is controlling your blue hallucination.



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Oct 20 2008, 1:22 am NudeRaider Post #14

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

Nope. Only the owner sees the hallucination blue.

If you would explain what you don't like with the solutions given we might be able to optimize them.




Oct 20 2008, 1:25 am Falkoner Post #15



Didn't someone just ask a question about this a little while back?



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Oct 20 2008, 1:34 am Hug A Zergling Post #16



Tha was me, but I'm trying a different approach.

How about this. Hallucination owned by every player stacked on top of each other. Would that make it blue for everyone?



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Oct 20 2008, 1:41 am rockz Post #17

ᴄʜᴇᴇsᴇ ɪᴛ!

what a pointless and outrageously hard effect which serves no purpose other than looking cool...



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Oct 20 2008, 2:04 am Hug A Zergling Post #18



It's not your map.



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Oct 20 2008, 3:22 am Falkoner Post #19



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How about this. Hallucination owned by every player stacked on top of each other. Would that make it blue for everyone?

It might work, but I don't know how you can preplace disabled sprites as hallucinations..



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Oct 20 2008, 4:52 am NudeRaider Post #20

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

Quote from Hug A Zergling
How about this. Hallucination owned by every player stacked on top of each other. Would that make it blue for everyone?
As far as I can tell it would not work. From what I've seen before starcraft isn't so nice to show your own units on top of a stack.
That means every player will see the same unit covering the others. Only the owner will see this unit blue.




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