[quote=name:KrayZee][quote=name:Darkling][quote=name:Fierce]Honestly, people died. Why does it matter? :ermm:[/quote] Natural selection. Damn straight. Everyone's gotta die sometime. Oh by the way, how did building 7 get hit by anything? No plane ever hit it. And war? What war? Oh right, that thing that our government says is a War on Terrorism. Thanks to the UN, we can't fire first, and we can watch innocents get raped in the streets and can't do anything. Some war. Oh, and we all go nuts when one soldier dies. I'd understand if it were your kid or friend, but when you put a ribbon on the back of you car telling the person behind you to support our troops... WHY DON'T YOU GRAB AN M-16 AND HELP YOURSELF? The war is BS. Its all a conspiracy. If you don't like this idea, and you call us idiots for supporting it, I ask of you: Open your fucking mind, and look ahead of what people tell you. Seek truth in yourself, and your experiences.[/quote]Iraq War is not related to 9/11.[/quote] Is it not? Why are we over there then? We wen't because "Terrorists" hit our precious little towers with planes.

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Honestly, people died. Why does it matter?

Natural selection. Damn straight. Everyone's gotta die sometime.

Oh by the way, how did building 7 get hit by anything? No plane ever hit it. And war? What war? Oh right, that thing that our government says is a War on Terrorism. Thanks to the UN, we can't fire first, and we can watch innocents get raped in the streets and can't do anything. Some war. Oh, and we all go nuts when one soldier dies. I'd understand if it were your kid or friend, but when you put a ribbon on the back of you car telling the person behind you to support our troops... WHY DON'T YOU GRAB AN M-16 AND HELP YOURSELF?

The war is BS. Its all a conspiracy. If you don't like this idea, and you call us idiots for supporting it, I ask of you: Open your fucking mind, and look ahead of what people tell you. Seek truth in yourself, and your experiences.

Iraq War is not related to 9/11.

Is it not? Why are we over there then? We wen't because "Terrorists" hit our precious little towers with planes.

[quote=name:Darkling]I saw the multitude of angles taken by newscrews, and on the TV, and the internet. Its not what people told me, its what I've believed, and I believe it to be conspiracy.[/quote] Oh? Is that so? [quote=name:Darkling]But they didn't just hear them. Theres about [b]a hunded public accounts[/b] that FELT explosions in the lower levels of the buildings.[/quote] [quote=name:Darkling][b]I read up[/b], those building were supposed to take fire. They stated that something had to assist the destruction.. Like planned explosives.[/quote] [quote=name:Darkling]The main support towers[b] were said to be[/b] only weak against thermite and high heat things like that. A simple fire wouldn't be able to do that. But, also, all of the buildings collapsed as if they were taken out from below, and MANY people mentioned feeling explosions and tremors BELOW them as the were passing when A: The planes HADN'T EVEN HIT, and B: After the planes hit.[/quote] Wow, I'm impressed. You got all that from angles?

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I saw the multitude of angles taken by newscrews, and on the TV, and the internet. Its not what people told me, its what I've believed, and I believe it to be conspiracy.

Oh? Is that so?

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But they didn't just hear them. Theres about a hunded public accounts that FELT explosions in the lower levels of the buildings.

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I read up, those building were supposed to take fire. They stated that something had to assist the destruction.. Like planned explosives.

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The main support towers were said to be only weak against thermite and high heat things like that. A simple fire wouldn't be able to do that. But, also, all of the buildings collapsed as if they were taken out from below, and MANY people mentioned feeling explosions and tremors BELOW them as the were passing when A: The planes HADN'T EVEN HIT, and B: After the planes hit.

Wow, I'm impressed. You got all that from angles?

[quote=name:Darkling][quote=name:KrayZee][quote=name:Darkling][quote=name:Fierce]Honestly, people died. Why does it matter? :ermm:[/quote] Natural selection. Damn straight. Everyone's gotta die sometime. Oh by the way, how did building 7 get hit by anything? No plane ever hit it. And war? What war? Oh right, that thing that our government says is a War on Terrorism. Thanks to the UN, we can't fire first, and we can watch innocents get raped in the streets and can't do anything. Some war. Oh, and we all go nuts when one soldier dies. I'd understand if it were your kid or friend, but when you put a ribbon on the back of you car telling the person behind you to support our troops... WHY DON'T YOU GRAB AN M-16 AND HELP YOURSELF? The war is BS. Its all a conspiracy. If you don't like this idea, and you call us idiots for supporting it, I ask of you: Open your fucking mind, and look ahead of what people tell you. Seek truth in yourself, and your experiences.[/quote]Iraq War is not related to 9/11.[/quote] Is it not? Why are we over there then? We wen't because "Terrorists" hit our precious little towers with planes.[/quote] Sigh, how many times do I have state this? The United States declared war against Iraq because of George W. Bush's misconception of the Weapons of Mass Destruction. The September 11 attacks were related to Osama Bin Laden and in Afghanistan. A lot of people are not as against the Afghanistan War as they are against the Iraq War.

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Honestly, people died. Why does it matter?

Natural selection. Damn straight. Everyone's gotta die sometime.

Oh by the way, how did building 7 get hit by anything? No plane ever hit it. And war? What war? Oh right, that thing that our government says is a War on Terrorism. Thanks to the UN, we can't fire first, and we can watch innocents get raped in the streets and can't do anything. Some war. Oh, and we all go nuts when one soldier dies. I'd understand if it were your kid or friend, but when you put a ribbon on the back of you car telling the person behind you to support our troops... WHY DON'T YOU GRAB AN M-16 AND HELP YOURSELF?

The war is BS. Its all a conspiracy. If you don't like this idea, and you call us idiots for supporting it, I ask of you: Open your fucking mind, and look ahead of what people tell you. Seek truth in yourself, and your experiences.

Iraq War is not related to 9/11.

Is it not? Why are we over there then? We wen't because "Terrorists" hit our precious little towers with planes.

Sigh, how many times do I have state this? The United States declared war against Iraq because of George W. Bush's misconception of the Weapons of Mass Destruction. The September 11 attacks were related to Osama Bin Laden and in Afghanistan. A lot of people are not as against the Afghanistan War as they are against the Iraq War.

Like I said. If I post Zeitgeist, I'm going to get laughed at. Also, I honestly forgot all the links of things I've seen, because they aren't on this computer. Christ. But honestly, I come into this little arguement with my beliefs, and I'm being harrased for them. Why don't you try posting some counterpoints, instead of ridiculing me?

Like I said. If I post Zeitgeist, I'm going to get laughed at. Also, I honestly forgot all the links of things I've seen, because they aren't on this computer. Christ.

But honestly, I come into this little arguement with my beliefs, and I'm being harrased for them. Why don't you try posting some counterpoints, instead of ridiculing me?

[quote=name:]Like I said. If I post Zeitgeist, I'm going to get laughed at. Also, I honestly forgot all the links of things I've seen, because they aren't on this computer. Christ.But honestly, I come into this little arguement with my beliefs, and I'm being harrased for them. Why don't you try posting some counterpoints, instead of ridiculing me?[/quote]Why don't you post some points for once? [quote=name:]Ignorant? You're the one who started any ignorance. But, how is MY logic flawed? You can't just say it, and it be true, lets hear some facts here.[/quote]You keep burning your own butt. [quote=name:Darkling][quote=name:KrayZee]Sigh, how many times do I have state this? The United States declared war against Iraq because of George W. Bush's misconception of the Weapons of Mass Destruction. The September 11 attacks were related to Osama Bin Laden and in Afghanistan. A lot of people are not as against the Afghanistan War as they are against the Iraq War.[/quote]What war did you think I was talking about? The "War Against Terrorism" was started because of 9/11.[/quote]Take it from a marine.

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Like I said. If I post Zeitgeist, I'm going to get laughed at. Also, I honestly forgot all the links of things I've seen, because they aren't on this computer. Christ.But honestly, I come into this little arguement with my beliefs, and I'm being harrased for them. Why don't you try posting some counterpoints, instead of ridiculing me?

Why don't you post some points for once?

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Ignorant? You're the one who started any ignorance. But, how is MY logic flawed? You can't just say it, and it be true, lets hear some facts here.

You keep burning your own butt.

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Sigh, how many times do I have state this? The United States declared war against Iraq because of George W. Bush's misconception of the Weapons of Mass Destruction. The September 11 attacks were related to Osama Bin Laden and in Afghanistan. A lot of people are not as against the Afghanistan War as they are against the Iraq War.

What war did you think I was talking about? The "War Against Terrorism" was started because of 9/11.

Take it from a marine.

[quote=name:Kaias][quote=name:]Like I said. If I post Zeitgeist, I'm going to get laughed at. Also, I honestly forgot all the links of things I've seen, because they aren't on this computer. Christ.But honestly, I come into this little arguement with my beliefs, and I'm being harrased for them. Why don't you try posting some counterpoints, instead of ridiculing me?[/quote]Why don't you post some points for once? Like I said, thats what I was doing the whole time. Why don't you read past the flaming and read the solid posts I've made, you might find some of my response to the subject.

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[quote=name:]Like I said. If I post Zeitgeist, I'm going to get laughed at. Also, I honestly forgot all the links of things I've seen, because they aren't on this computer. Christ.But honestly, I come into this little arguement with my beliefs, and I'm being harrased for them. Why don't you try posting some counterpoints, instead of ridiculing me?

Why don't you post some points for once?

Like I said, thats what I was doing the whole time. Why don't you read past the flaming and read the solid posts I've made, you might find some of my response to the subject.

"There is no 9/11 conspiracy [b][i][u]you morons[/u][/i][/b]" - Increase the logic, decrease the people flamage.

"There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons" - Increase the logic, decrease the people flamage.

[quote=name:midget_man_66]"There is no 9/11 conspiracy [b][i][u]you morons[/u][/i][/b]" - Increase the logic, decrease the people flamage.[/quote] You're an idiot. Thats the ACTUAL NAME OF THE ARTICLE.

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"There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons" - Increase the logic, decrease the people flamage.

You're an idiot. Thats the ACTUAL NAME OF THE ARTICLE.

[quote=name:midget_man_66]"There is no 9/11 conspiracy [b][i][u]you morons[/u][/i][/b]" - Increase the logic, decrease the people flamage.[/quote] And he's the moderator that actually cares about Serious Discussion.

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"There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons" - Increase the logic, decrease the people flamage.

And he's the moderator that actually cares about Serious Discussion.

[quote=name:Kaias][quote=name:Darkling]Why don't you read past the flaming and read the solid posts I've made, you might find some of my response to the subject.[/quote]Solid posts? I'd gone through all of them before posting. There is nothing solid there. What? People heard and felt explosions? [quote=name:Darkling]You can't just say it, and it be true, lets hear some facts here.[/quote][/quote] Yeah, thats pretty solid I'd say. If you recall any serious though, anything and everything must and can be possible. And that second quote? That was toward Jello, calling me an imbicile.

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Why don't you read past the flaming and read the solid posts I've made, you might find some of my response to the subject.

Solid posts? I'd gone through all of them before posting. There is nothing solid there. What? People heard and felt explosions?

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You can't just say it, and it be true, lets hear some facts here.

Yeah, thats pretty solid I'd say. If you recall any serious though, anything and everything must and can be possible.

And that second quote? That was toward Jello, calling me an imbicile.

[quote=name:Darkling][quote=name:Kaias][quote=name:Darkling]Why don't you read past the flaming and read the solid posts I've made, you might find some of my response to the subject.[/quote]Solid posts? I'd gone through all of them before posting. There is nothing solid there. What? People heard and felt explosions? [quote=name:Darkling]You can't just say it, and it be true, lets hear some facts here.[/quote][/quote] Yeah, thats pretty solid I'd say. If you recall any serious though, anything and everything must and can be possible. And that second quote? That was toward Jello, calling me an imbicile.[/quote] That's not solid at all. You say people say they felt and heard explosions, that's it. It doesn't matter whom the quote was geared against, it's applicable against you.

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Why don't you read past the flaming and read the solid posts I've made, you might find some of my response to the subject.

Solid posts? I'd gone through all of them before posting. There is nothing solid there. What? People heard and felt explosions?

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You can't just say it, and it be true, lets hear some facts here.

Yeah, thats pretty solid I'd say. If you recall any serious though, anything and everything must and can be possible.

And that second quote? That was toward Jello, calling me an imbicile.

That's not solid at all. You say people say they felt and heard explosions, that's it. It doesn't matter whom the quote was geared against, it's applicable against you.

lol, aost, i like the little cartoons in the link xD.....

lol, aost, i like the little cartoons in the link xD.....

[quote=name:Kaias][quote=name:Darkling][quote=name:Kaias][quote=name:Darkling]Why don't you read past the flaming and read the solid posts I've made, you might find some of my response to the subject.[/quote]Solid posts? I'd gone through all of them before posting. There is nothing solid there. What? People heard and felt explosions? [quote=name:Darkling]You can't just say it, and it be true, lets hear some facts here.[/quote][/quote] Yeah, thats pretty solid I'd say. If you recall any serious though, anything and everything must and can be possible. And that second quote? That was toward Jello, calling me an imbicile.[/quote] That's not solid at all. You say people say they felt and heard explosions, that's it. It doesn't matter whom the quote was geared against, it's applicable against you.[/quote] I just stated what I heard. My opinion was that they were right because there was so many people who credited it. Now, you can TRY to counter argue, support it, or leave it alone. Harassing me isn't making the subject go anywhere.

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Why don't you read past the flaming and read the solid posts I've made, you might find some of my response to the subject.

Solid posts? I'd gone through all of them before posting. There is nothing solid there. What? People heard and felt explosions?

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You can't just say it, and it be true, lets hear some facts here.

Yeah, thats pretty solid I'd say. If you recall any serious though, anything and everything must and can be possible.

And that second quote? That was toward Jello, calling me an imbicile.

That's not solid at all. You say people say they felt and heard explosions, that's it. It doesn't matter whom the quote was geared against, it's applicable against you.

I just stated what I heard. My opinion was that they were right because there was so many people who credited it. Now, you can TRY to counter argue, support it, or leave it alone. Harassing me isn't making the subject go anywhere.

[quote=name:Darkling]And that second quote? That was toward Jello, calling me an imbicile.[/quote] Are you kidding me??? That was before I (rightfully) called you an imbecile. You're solid evidence is looking more and more like the compromised structure of the WTC... You mix up facts and you misquote. and btw i already did counter it. [quote]Just because some people heard an alleged explosion, means absolutely nothing. Mass hysteria is very easy to fall into. People often let their stories be exaggerated to increase the effect. It is common among people to "invent" memories when they are dealing with lots of stress, or when they participate or observe something drastic. These things combined show it's perfectly possible, and likely, that building three was not detonated in anyway, and it was in fact, another act of terrorism.[/quote] Like a standard, you ignored I said anything.

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And that second quote? That was toward Jello, calling me an imbicile.

Are you kidding me??? That was before I (rightfully) called you an imbecile. You're solid evidence is looking more and more like the compromised structure of the WTC... You mix up facts and you misquote.

and btw i already did counter it.

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Just because some people heard an alleged explosion, means absolutely nothing. Mass hysteria is very easy to fall into. People often let their stories be exaggerated to increase the effect. It is common among people to "invent" memories when they are dealing with lots of stress, or when they participate or observe something drastic. These things combined show it's perfectly possible, and likely, that building three was not detonated in anyway, and it was in fact, another act of terrorism.

Like a standard, you ignored I said anything.

[quote=name:A_of-s_t]"[url=http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons]There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons[/url]" Just because something is "planned" to be fireproof doesnt mean it actually is. When the insulation (I think that's what its called) is stripped off of the metal beams, the metal becomes susceptible to fire...[/quote] You bastard, I was about to post that.

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"There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons"

Just because something is "planned" to be fireproof doesnt mean it actually is. When the insulation (I think that's what its called) is stripped off of the metal beams, the metal becomes susceptible to fire...

You bastard, I was about to post that.

Unless this topic is redirected to the argument at hand, I will close the topic for about 24 hours untill the tension is cooled.

Unless this topic is redirected to the argument at hand, I will close the topic for about 24 hours untill the tension is cooled.

[quote=name:A_of-s_t]Unless this topic is redirected to the argument at hand, I will close the topic for about 24 hours untill the tension is cooled.[/quote] Actually I think that's a good idea. Let each of us take a look at what arguments we really have to the points, and remove the arguments we have at people?

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Unless this topic is redirected to the argument at hand, I will close the topic for about 24 hours untill the tension is cooled.

Actually I think that's a good idea. Let each of us take a look at what arguments we really have to the points, and remove the arguments we have at people?

I can't just close the most popular topic at the time... Do you see how many people are reading this?

I can't just close the most popular topic at the time... Do you see how many people are reading this?

[quote=name:Darkling]Close it. Jello won't listen to anything I say to defend myself, so this won't end.[/quote] I have responded, and quoted it so you haven't missed my side either. My refute has yet to have any acknowledgment, so it cannot end until you either discredit it, or accept it.

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Close it. Jello won't listen to anything I say to defend myself, so this won't end.

I have responded, and quoted it so you haven't missed my side either. My refute has yet to have any acknowledgment, so it cannot end until you either discredit it, or accept it.

[quote=name:Darkling]And, that quote was about me asking for WHY I'm an imbicile. You really haven't given me a reason yet, except that I believe against your ideas.[/quote]Like he said, he had said what you said that you had said you were responding to before he had said it. [quote=name:Darkling]Close it. Jello won't listen to anything I say to defend myself, so this won't end.[/quote]It's not about you. I can just as easily say that everyone that witnessed 9/11 agrees that there was no explosion to be heard or felt as you can that hundred of people do say there was. There's no basis behind your words.

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And, that quote was about me asking for WHY I'm an imbicile. You really haven't given me a reason yet, except that I believe against your ideas.

Like he said, he had said what you said that you had said you were responding to before he had said it.

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Close it. Jello won't listen to anything I say to defend myself, so this won't end.

It's not about you.


I can just as easily say that everyone that witnessed 9/11 agrees that there was no explosion to be heard or felt as you can that hundred of people do say there was. There's no basis behind your words.