When the North Tower collapsed, it blew a lot of debris and fire onto/into building 7; it damaged the building's structural integrity and the fires eventually weakened the support enough to cause a collapse.

When the North Tower collapsed, it blew a lot of debris and fire onto/into building 7; it damaged the building's structural integrity and the fires eventually weakened the support enough to cause a collapse.

I read up, those building were supposed to take fire. They stated that something had to assist the destruction.. Like planned explosives.

I read up, those building were supposed to take fire. They stated that something had to assist the destruction..

Like planned explosives.

If the steel beams were breached, the interior of the beams would be susceptible to fire. They were breached, and it weakened the structural integrity of the tower.

If the steel beams were breached, the interior of the beams would be susceptible to fire. They were breached, and it weakened the structural integrity of the tower.

That would take a miracle. The main support towers were said to be only weak against thermite and high heat things like that. A simple fire wouldn't be able to do that. But, also, all of the buildings collapsed as if they were taken out from below, and MANY people mentioned feeling explosions and tremors BELOW them as the were passing when A: The planes HADN'T EVEN HIT, and B: After the planes hit.

That would take a miracle. The main support towers were said to be only weak against thermite and high heat things like that. A simple fire wouldn't be able to do that. But, also, all of the buildings collapsed as if they were taken out from below, and MANY people mentioned feeling explosions and tremors BELOW them as the were passing when A: The planes HADN'T EVEN HIT, and B: After the planes hit.

"[url=http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons]There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons[/url]" Just because something is "planned" to be fireproof doesnt mean it actually is. When the insulation (I think that's what its called) is stripped off of the metal beams, the metal becomes susceptible to fire...

"There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons"

Just because something is "planned" to be fireproof doesnt mean it actually is. When the insulation (I think that's what its called) is stripped off of the metal beams, the metal becomes susceptible to fire...

[quote=name:Darkling]The war is BS. Its all a conspiracy. If you don't like this idea, and you call us idiots for supporting it, I ask of you: Open your fucking mind, and look ahead of what people tell you. Seek truth in yourself, and your experiences.[/quote] The irony here is that you haven't 'sought the truth' yourself or base any of your conspiracy beliefs off your own experience. You're just soaking up the farcical conjectures of others. Just because we don't act as credulously as you do doesn't mean we are close-minded.

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The war is BS. Its all a conspiracy. If you don't like this idea, and you call us idiots for supporting it, I ask of you: Open your fucking mind, and look ahead of what people tell you. Seek truth in yourself, and your experiences.

The irony here is that you haven't 'sought the truth' yourself or base any of your conspiracy beliefs off your own experience. You're just soaking up the farcical conjectures of others.

Just because we don't act as credulously as you do doesn't mean we are close-minded.

I think this is a post regarding your thoughts, not a site's. Well, I'd think differently, if you actually didn't try to discreding everything I say. Now, I admit, I could be wrong, but so could you. We weren't there, we don't know what actually happened, bottom line. Just tryin' to defend my beliefs, but its not just mine. Hell, just about every forign person I know says it was a conspiracy, but every American friend says against it. I wonder why.. Propaganda possibly?

I think this is a post regarding your thoughts, not a site's.

Well, I'd think differently, if you actually didn't try to discreding everything I say. Now, I admit, I could be wrong, but so could you. We weren't there, we don't know what actually happened, bottom line. Just tryin' to defend my beliefs, but its not just mine. Hell, just about every forign person I know says it was a conspiracy, but every American friend says against it. I wonder why.. Propaganda possibly?

[quote=name:A_of-s_t]"[url=http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons]There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons[/url]" Just because something is "planned" to be fireproof doesnt mean it actually is. When the insulation (I think that's what its called) is stripped off of the metal beams, the metal becomes susceptible to fire...[/quote] I like glenn beck, yet I still like the link. The humor is amusing. :)

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"There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons"

Just because something is "planned" to be fireproof doesnt mean it actually is. When the insulation (I think that's what its called) is stripped off of the metal beams, the metal becomes susceptible to fire...

I like glenn beck, yet I still like the link. The humor is amusing.

[quote=name:Darkling]I think this is a post regarding your thoughts, not a site's.[/quote] Yes, we shouldn't cite anything that may contain evidence or counter-evidence because we didn't write it.

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I think this is a post regarding your thoughts, not a site's.

Yes, we shouldn't cite anything that may contain evidence or counter-evidence because we didn't write it.

No no. I'm saying, post opinion, not just a link. Seriously, if we wanted a link, why post the topic anyways?

No no. I'm saying, post opinion, not just a link. Seriously, if we wanted a link, why post the topic anyways?

[quote=name:Darkling]I think this is a post regarding your thoughts, not a site's. Well, I'd think differently, if you actually didn't try to discreding everything I say. Now, I admit, I could be wrong, but so could you. We weren't there, we don't know what actually happened, bottom line. Just tryin' to defend my beliefs, but its not just mine. Hell, just about every forign person I know says it was a conspiracy, but every American friend says against it. I wonder why.. Propaganda possibly?[/quote] Now you're really just sounding idiotic... You've reasoned to say "well, i guess I might be wrong, but so might you!" Worst argument ever...

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I think this is a post regarding your thoughts, not a site's.

Well, I'd think differently, if you actually didn't try to discreding everything I say. Now, I admit, I could be wrong, but so could you. We weren't there, we don't know what actually happened, bottom line. Just tryin' to defend my beliefs, but its not just mine. Hell, just about every forign person I know says it was a conspiracy, but every American friend says against it. I wonder why.. Propaganda possibly?

Now you're really just sounding idiotic... You've reasoned to say "well, i guess I might be wrong, but so might you!" Worst argument ever...

[quote=darksomeone]Is it?[/quote] Yes, it is. It shows you have no real belief in your conjecture. It shows uncertainty. It shows you aren't invested enough to prove the other points wrong. Therefore, still stands, worst point ever.

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Is it?

Yes, it is. It shows you have no real belief in your conjecture. It shows uncertainty. It shows you aren't invested enough to prove the other points wrong. Therefore, still stands, worst point ever.

[quote=name:Jello-Jigglers][quote=darksomeone]Is it?[/quote] Yes, it is. It shows you have no real belief in your conjecture. It shows uncertainty. It shows you aren't invested enough to prove the other points wrong. Therefore, still stands, worst point ever.[/quote]And all the while you haven't presented any basis for your conclusions. (You being Darkling)

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Is it?

Yes, it is. It shows you have no real belief in your conjecture. It shows uncertainty. It shows you aren't invested enough to prove the other points wrong. Therefore, still stands, worst point ever.

And all the while you haven't presented any basis for your conclusions. (You being Darkling)

Not really. I'm just trying to let you know that you could or could not be wrong. The worst point ever would be something about who was driving the damn planes, like it was Bush himself or something. That would be worthy of being called out for being an idiot. My opinions are based on what I've seen. I don't have links, because I don't care about it. Call it terrorism, or conspiracy, people died, we gave it a memorial, we're rebuilding, and look, a war. Its called life. Natural selection if you will, behind a concrete 100+ story building.

Not really. I'm just trying to let you know that you could or could not be wrong. The worst point ever would be something about who was driving the damn planes, like it was Bush himself or something. That would be worthy of being called out for being an idiot.


My opinions are based on what I've seen. I don't have links, because I don't care about it. Call it terrorism, or conspiracy, people died, we gave it a memorial, we're rebuilding, and look, a war. Its called life. Natural selection if you will, behind a concrete 100+ story building.

[quote=name:Darkling]Not really. I'm just trying to let you know that you could or could not be wrong. The worst point ever would be something about who was driving the damn planes, like it was Bush himself or something. That would be worthy of being called out for being an idiot.[/quote] Just stop before you hurt yourself. You are no longer benefiting the Serious Discussion Forum. Anyone else think the conspiracy is true, and has a valid point to make? or is this topic over? [edit] [quote=dark-worthless]I don't have links, because I don't care about it[/quote] new worst post ever. Stating you don't care about sources is a bad move... An arguments driving force is a source. To deny that is destroying whatever credibility you had left.

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Not really. I'm just trying to let you know that you could or could not be wrong. The worst point ever would be something about who was driving the damn planes, like it was Bush himself or something. That would be worthy of being called out for being an idiot.

Just stop before you hurt yourself. You are no longer benefiting the Serious Discussion Forum.

Anyone else think the conspiracy is true, and has a valid point to make? or is this topic over?

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I don't have links, because I don't care about it

new worst post ever. Stating you don't care about sources is a bad move... An arguments driving force is a source. To deny that is destroying whatever credibility you had left.

Thanks for the accusations. Just because you have the support of others doesn't make you right. You called me an idiot, and I really hate to whine, but I should report you. You haven't benefitted the subject at hand because you've criticized me for my beliefs, and thats the worst thing to do. How about you take your own damn advice.

Thanks for the accusations. Just because you have the support of others doesn't make you right. You called me an idiot, and I really hate to whine, but I should report you. You haven't benefitted the subject at hand because you've criticized me for my beliefs, and thats the worst thing to do. How about you take your own damn advice.

[quote=name:Darkling]My opinions are based on what I've seen.[/quote]Seen? You saw them go down? Or do you mean that you base your opinions off of what other people tell you.

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My opinions are based on what I've seen.

Seen? You saw them go down? Or do you mean that you base your opinions off of what other people tell you.

I saw the multitude of angles taken by newscrews, and on the TV, and the internet. Its not what people told me, its what I've believed, and I believe it to be conspiracy. Isn't just the perfect way to get the country's support on entering a war, that isn't really a war? Edit: And by the way, if I post anything, it would probably be Zeitgeist, and I'd probably get laughed at. Whats the point?

I saw the multitude of angles taken by newscrews, and on the TV, and the internet. Its not what people told me, its what I've believed, and I believe it to be conspiracy.

Isn't just the perfect way to get the country's support on entering a war, that isn't really a war?

Edit: And by the way, if I post anything, it would probably be Zeitgeist, and I'd probably get laughed at. Whats the point?

[quote=name:Darkling][quote=name:Fierce]Honestly, people died. Why does it matter? :ermm:[/quote] Natural selection. Damn straight. Everyone's gotta die sometime. Oh by the way, how did building 7 get hit by anything? No plane ever hit it. And war? What war? Oh right, that thing that our government says is a War on Terrorism. Thanks to the UN, we can't fire first, and we can watch innocents get raped in the streets and can't do anything. Some war. Oh, and we all go nuts when one soldier dies. I'd understand if it were your kid or friend, but when you put a ribbon on the back of you car telling the person behind you to support our troops... WHY DON'T YOU GRAB AN M-16 AND HELP YOURSELF? The war is BS. Its all a conspiracy. If you don't like this idea, and you call us idiots for supporting it, I ask of you: Open your fucking mind, and look ahead of what people tell you. Seek truth in yourself, and your experiences.[/quote]Iraq War is not related to 9/11.

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Honestly, people died. Why does it matter?

Natural selection. Damn straight. Everyone's gotta die sometime.

Oh by the way, how did building 7 get hit by anything? No plane ever hit it. And war? What war? Oh right, that thing that our government says is a War on Terrorism. Thanks to the UN, we can't fire first, and we can watch innocents get raped in the streets and can't do anything. Some war. Oh, and we all go nuts when one soldier dies. I'd understand if it were your kid or friend, but when you put a ribbon on the back of you car telling the person behind you to support our troops... WHY DON'T YOU GRAB AN M-16 AND HELP YOURSELF?

The war is BS. Its all a conspiracy. If you don't like this idea, and you call us idiots for supporting it, I ask of you: Open your fucking mind, and look ahead of what people tell you. Seek truth in yourself, and your experiences.

Iraq War is not related to 9/11.

[quote=name:KrayZee][quote=name:Darkling][quote=name:Fierce]Honestly, people died. Why does it matter? :ermm:[/quote] Natural selection. Damn straight. Everyone's gotta die sometime. Oh by the way, how did building 7 get hit by anything? No plane ever hit it. And war? What war? Oh right, that thing that our government says is a War on Terrorism. Thanks to the UN, we can't fire first, and we can watch innocents get raped in the streets and can't do anything. Some war. Oh, and we all go nuts when one soldier dies. I'd understand if it were your kid or friend, but when you put a ribbon on the back of you car telling the person behind you to support our troops... WHY DON'T YOU GRAB AN M-16 AND HELP YOURSELF? The war is BS. Its all a conspiracy. If you don't like this idea, and you call us idiots for supporting it, I ask of you: Open your fucking mind, and look ahead of what people tell you. Seek truth in yourself, and your experiences.[/quote]Iraq War is not related to 9/11.[/quote] That's a good fact right there. Though I would say it was only a matter of time. It was going to happen sooner or later. It just happened to be sooner because 3000 or so peoples families suffer directly from terrorist attacks.

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Honestly, people died. Why does it matter?

Natural selection. Damn straight. Everyone's gotta die sometime.

Oh by the way, how did building 7 get hit by anything? No plane ever hit it. And war? What war? Oh right, that thing that our government says is a War on Terrorism. Thanks to the UN, we can't fire first, and we can watch innocents get raped in the streets and can't do anything. Some war. Oh, and we all go nuts when one soldier dies. I'd understand if it were your kid or friend, but when you put a ribbon on the back of you car telling the person behind you to support our troops... WHY DON'T YOU GRAB AN M-16 AND HELP YOURSELF?
The war is BS. Its all a conspiracy. If you don't like this idea, and you call us idiots for supporting it, I ask of you: Open your fucking mind, and look ahead of what people tell you. Seek truth in yourself, and your experiences.

Iraq War is not related to 9/11.

That's a good fact right there. Though I would say it was only a matter of time. It was going to happen sooner or later. It just happened to be sooner because 3000 or so peoples families suffer directly from terrorist attacks.