You completely ignored my last sentence, here, read it again: [quote]Obviously I am not going to submit a map showing how every action and condition works, I only made one map showing a strange quirk that can really cause problems in maps.[/quote]

You completely ignored my last sentence, here, read it again:

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Obviously I am not going to submit a map showing how every action and condition works, I only made one map showing a strange quirk that can really cause problems in maps.

[quote=name:Falkoner]You completely ignored my last sentence, here, read it again: [quote]Obviously I am not going to submit a map showing how every action and condition works, I only made one map showing a strange quirk that can really cause problems in maps.[/quote][/quote] I'm not saying that [b]you [/b]will, but that it could be done. BTW, here's just a test of the bring condition since you said it's not within the trigger cycle. [IMG]http://i25.tinypic.com/1gkpl2.jpg[/IMG] [quote]Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Always(); Actions: Display Text Message(Always Display, "FUCK"); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Bring("Player 1", "Terran Marine", "Location 0", Exactly, 1); Actions: Display Text Message(Always Display, "YOU FALKONER"); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Always(); Actions: Display Text Message(Always Display, "LULZ NOOB"); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------//[/quote] [IMG]http://i28.tinypic.com/35bfhfm.jpg[/IMG] [quote]Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Elapsed Time(At least, 3); Actions: Set Switch("Switch1", set); Create Unit("Player 1", "Terran Marine", 1, "Location 0"); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Switch("Switch1", set); Actions: Display Text Message(Always Display, "FUCK"); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Bring("Player 1", "Terran Marine", "Location 0", Exactly, 1); Switch("Switch1", set); Actions: Display Text Message(Always Display, "YOU FALKONER"); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Switch("Switch1", set); Actions: Display Text Message(Always Display, "LULZ NOOB"); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------//[/quote] *Hyper triggers not shown

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You completely ignored my last sentence, here, read it again:

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Obviously I am not going to submit a map showing how every action and condition works, I only made one map showing a strange quirk that can really cause problems in maps.

I'm not saying that you will, but that it could be done.

BTW, here's just a test of the bring condition since you said it's not within the trigger cycle.

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Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Always();

Actions:
Display Text Message(Always Display, "FUCK");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Bring("Player 1", "Terran Marine", "Location 0", Exactly, 1);

Actions:
Display Text Message(Always Display, "YOU FALKONER");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Always();

Actions:
Display Text Message(Always Display, "LULZ NOOB");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

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Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Elapsed Time(At least, 3);

Actions:
Set Switch("Switch1", set);
Create Unit("Player 1", "Terran Marine", 1, "Location 0");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch1", set);

Actions:
Display Text Message(Always Display, "FUCK");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Bring("Player 1", "Terran Marine", "Location 0", Exactly, 1);
Switch("Switch1", set);

Actions:
Display Text Message(Always Display, "YOU FALKONER");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch1", set);

Actions:
Display Text Message(Always Display, "LULZ NOOB");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

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[quote]I'm not saying that you will, but that it could be done.[/quote] That's why lil-inferno checks maps before adding them to the ladder. And as I said in the second map, creating units updates the conditions, and preplaced units are already detected, your testing only proved what I said.

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I'm not saying that you will, but that it could be done.

That's why lil-inferno checks maps before adding them to the ladder.

And as I said in the second map, creating units updates the conditions, and preplaced units are already detected, your testing only proved what I said.

[quote=name:Falkoner][quote]I'm not saying that you will, but that it could be done.[/quote] That's why lil-inferno checks maps before adding them to the ladder. And as I said in the second map, creating units updates the conditions, and preplaced units are already detected, your testing only proved what I said.[/quote] That's why I have two tests fool.

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I'm not saying that you will, but that it could be done.

That's why lil-inferno checks maps before adding them to the ladder.

And as I said in the second map, creating units updates the conditions, and preplaced units are already detected, your testing only proved what I said.

That's why I have two tests fool.

First test simply shows that the unit is already detected when the game starts, otherwise it is only trigger order. Second test shows what I said in the second map, that creating units via triggers updates the conditions immediately. Both of which I already said. Who's the newb?

First test simply shows that the unit is already detected when the game starts, otherwise it is only trigger order.

Second test shows what I said in the second map, that creating units via triggers updates the conditions immediately.

Both of which I already said. Who's the newb?

[quote=name:Falkoner]First test simply shows that the unit is already detected when the game starts, otherwise it is only trigger order. Second test shows what I said in the second map, that creating units via triggers updates the conditions immediately. Both of which I already said. Who's the newb?[/quote] You're the noob. [quote=name:Falkoner] Second, Bring is not updated instantly, try out the first map and you will see that it takes around 1 trigger loop for Bring to update, and about 2 for Command.[/quote] Nice contradiction.

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First test simply shows that the unit is already detected when the game starts, otherwise it is only trigger order.

Second test shows what I said in the second map, that creating units via triggers updates the conditions immediately.

Both of which I already said. Who's the newb?

You're the noob.

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Second, Bring is not updated instantly, try out the first map and you will see that it takes around 1 trigger loop for Bring to update, and about 2 for Command.

Nice contradiction.

How is that a contradiction? I said that Bring takes a trigger loop to update, but creating a unit updates it immediately, and I said that when you start the game they are already detected, so how is that a contradiction?

How is that a contradiction? I said that Bring takes a trigger loop to update, but creating a unit updates it immediately, and I said that when you start the game they are already detected, so how is that a contradiction?

[quote=name:Falkoner]How is that a contradiction? I said that Bring takes a trigger loop to update, but creating a unit updates it immediately, and I said that when you start the game they are already detected, so how is that a contradiction?[/quote] [quote]...creating units via triggers updates the conditions [b]immediately[/b].[/quote] [quote=name:Falkoner] Second, Bring is [b]not updated instantly[/b], try out the first map and you will see that it takes around 1 trigger loop for Bring to update, and about 2 for Command.[/quote]

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How is that a contradiction? I said that Bring takes a trigger loop to update, but creating a unit updates it immediately, and I said that when you start the game they are already detected, so how is that a contradiction?

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...creating units via triggers updates the conditions immediately.

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Second, Bring is not updated instantly, try out the first map and you will see that it takes around 1 trigger loop for Bring to update, and about 2 for Command.

Bring is not updated instantly [b]on it's own[/b]. I think it's obvious that I am trying to say that, since I would have to be a complete idiot to contradict myself like that.

Bring is not updated instantly on it's own. I think it's obvious that I am trying to say that, since I would have to be a complete idiot to contradict myself like that.

[quote=name:Falkoner]Bring is not updated instantly [b]on it's own[/b].[/quote] That makes no sense. [quote=name:Falkoner]I think it's obvious that I am trying to say that, since I would have to be a complete idiot to contradict myself like that.[/quote] No, it's not obvious what you're saying. You're contradicting yourself.

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Bring is not updated instantly on it's own.

That makes no sense.

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I think it's obvious that I am trying to say that, since I would have to be a complete idiot to contradict myself like that.

No, it's not obvious what you're saying. You're contradicting yourself.

It makes perfect sense, the game will not update the conditions instantly like it does all other conditions unless you create a unit. You are taking what I say way too literally, I said it exactly like this in another topic back at Maplantis, and everyone got what I was saying, why can't you?

It makes perfect sense, the game will not update the conditions instantly like it does all other conditions unless you create a unit. You are taking what I say way too literally, I said it exactly like this in another topic back at Maplantis, and everyone got what I was saying, why can't you?

You could use msn or aim to battle it out.

You could use msn or aim to battle it out.

Nah, I'm done arguing, I see that it is pointless to argue, devilisk will never truly admit he was wrong, and so arguing with him is almost the same thing as spamming, thanks for ending it, sticky.

Nah, I'm done arguing, I see that it is pointless to argue, devilisk will never truly admit he was wrong, and so arguing with him is almost the same thing as spamming, thanks for ending it, sticky.

[quote=name:Falkoner]It makes perfect sense, the game will not update the conditions instantly like it does all other conditions unless you create a unit. You are taking what I say way too literally, I said it exactly like this in another topic back at Maplantis, and everyone got what I was saying, why can't you?[/quote] [IMG]http://i27.tinypic.com/66yviq.jpg[/IMG] [quote]Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Always(); Actions: Create Unit("Player 1", "Terran Marine", 1, "Location 0"); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Elapsed Time(At least, 3); Actions: Set Switch("Switch1", set); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Switch("Switch1", set); Actions: Move Unit("Player 1", "Terran Marine", All, "Location 0", "Location 1"); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Switch("Switch1", set); Actions: Display Text Message(Always Display, "FALKONER IS"); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Bring("Player 1", "Terran Marine", "Location 1", Exactly, 1); Switch("Switch1", set); Actions: Display Text Message(Always Display, "A DUMBASS"); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Player 1"){ Conditions: Switch("Switch1", set); Actions: Display Text Message(Always Display, "LULZ NOOB"); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------//[/quote] I didn't create a unit and it still updated. WHAT NOW?

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It makes perfect sense, the game will not update the conditions instantly like it does all other conditions unless you create a unit. You are taking what I say way too literally, I said it exactly like this in another topic back at Maplantis, and everyone got what I was saying, why can't you?

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Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Always();

Actions:
Create Unit("Player 1", "Terran Marine", 1, "Location 0");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Elapsed Time(At least, 3);

Actions:
Set Switch("Switch1", set);
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch1", set);

Actions:
Move Unit("Player 1", "Terran Marine", All, "Location 0", "Location 1");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch1", set);

Actions:
Display Text Message(Always Display, "FALKONER IS");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Bring("Player 1", "Terran Marine", "Location 1", Exactly, 1);
Switch("Switch1", set);

Actions:
Display Text Message(Always Display, "A DUMBASS");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Trigger("Player 1"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch1", set);

Actions:
Display Text Message(Always Display, "LULZ NOOB");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

I didn't create a unit and it still updated. WHAT NOW?

Okay, perhaps moving units updates it as well, I am not certain, but in most cases, the rules I put out work.

Okay, perhaps moving units updates it as well, I am not certain, but in most cases, the rules I put out work.

[quote=name:Falkoner]Okay, perhaps moving units updates it as well, I am not certain, but in most cases, the rules I put out work.[/quote] Move, create... what more is there to get a unit into a location?

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Okay, perhaps moving units updates it as well, I am not certain, but in most cases, the rules I put out work.

Move, create... what more is there to get a unit into a location?

It doesn't matter anymore... Nobody really cares.

It doesn't matter anymore... Nobody really cares.

[quote=name:stickynote]It doesn't matter anymore... Nobody really cares.[/quote] Because ignoring a problem makes it go away. ... Seriously!

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It doesn't matter anymore... Nobody really cares.

Because ignoring a problem makes it go away.


...


Seriously!

Devilisk, building units does not update it, removing them does not, killing them does not. I would not post it if I had no reason.

Devilisk, building units does not update it, removing them does not, killing them does not. I would not post it if I had no reason.

[quote=name:Tuxedo-Templar][quote=name:stickynote]It doesn't matter anymore... Nobody really cares.[/quote] Because ignoring a problem makes it go away. ... Seriously![/quote] I'm not saying to ignore it, but if you have issues in your map like that, it is pretty minor, and you could always test it yourself. Actually, just post test maps and we're good to go.

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It doesn't matter anymore... Nobody really cares.

Because ignoring a problem makes it go away.


...


Seriously!

I'm not saying to ignore it, but if you have issues in your map like that, it is pretty minor, and you could always test it yourself. Actually, just post test maps and we're good to go.