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Post #41     [lil-Inferno]:] Mar 24 2008, 2:05 pm

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Quote from candle12345If it's a hoax, why would the freaking photographer get close so we can actually see it's a guy in a suit? That's the idea of a hoax, you don't tell anyone you're lying! :flamer:

Just forget what I ever said. Because what I meant was the photographer was just an explorer or something, and they just happened to see the hoaxer in the costume.
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Post #42     candle12345 Mar 24 2008, 2:06 pm

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Yeah I was thinking that.
You see, hoaxers usually take the photos, if they go around terrorising people, they get found out pretty damn fast because the police will investigate.
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Post #43     Syphon[MM] Mar 24 2008, 4:34 pm

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Quote from AntiSleepWhere are the corpses? Or are these creatures immortal?


In forests.
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Post #44     [lil-Inferno]:] Mar 24 2008, 4:51 pm

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Quote from AntiSleepWhere are the corpses? Or are these creatures immortal?


In forests.

It does seem pretty suprising at first that if a Sasquatch exists we haven't found a carcass.
But then again how many people do you know that go into the deeps of the wilderness and look for them?
Could somebody maybe found what was a carcass of a Sasquatch and just thought it was a different animal? They could be mistaken for a bear or another large animal.
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Post #45     MadZombie Mar 24 2008, 5:00 pm

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What about the Newjersey Devil? what ever happend to that guy eh?
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Post #46     frazz Mar 24 2008, 5:15 pm

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Quote from lil-InfernoHaven't scientists said we only found about 1/20th of Earth's animal species or something? I heard it on national geographic or something.

Quote from frazzPerpetual motion is actually possible in certain conditions found in the outer solar system, I heard it on the Science channel or something.


Neither National Geographic nor the Science channel have any kind of scientific authority(and frazz, if that was supposed to be sarcastic, you are doing it wrong), if such a thing as scientific authority even exists it is in the interaction called peer review.

I suggest you read the abstract of this paper: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0026-6493%28200024%2987%3A1%3C63%3ANMIT2C%3E2.0.CO%3B2-B

on another note, friction does disappear at absurdly low temperatures.

Nooooo, I was being dead freaking serious (it was satirical actually).

Also, friction does not disappear, unless you're actually at 0 (which never happens).
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Post #47     Syphon[MM] Mar 24 2008, 5:20 pm

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Quote from AntiSleepWhere are the corpses? Or are these creatures immortal?


In forests.

It does seem pretty suprising at first that if a Sasquatch exists we haven't found a carcass.
But then again how many people do you know that go into the deeps of the wilderness and look for them?
Could somebody maybe found what was a carcass of a Sasquatch and just thought it was a different animal? They could be mistaken for a bear or another large animal.


It doesn't seem pretty surprising seeing as how it took 20,000 years for people to find dinosaur remains. Have you seen fucking dinosaurs? They big.
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Post #48     SiN Mar 24 2008, 5:30 pm

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Yeah but they were buried...There's a better possibility that a sasquatch's remains would be above ground.
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Post #49     Syphon[MM] Mar 24 2008, 5:34 pm

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Quote from SiNYeah but they were buried...There's a better possibility that a sasquatch's remains would be above ground.


How do you know they don't bury their dead?
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Post #50     MadZombie Mar 24 2008, 5:49 pm

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Post #51     [lil-Inferno]:] Mar 24 2008, 8:46 pm

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Quote from MadZombieWhat about the Newjersey Devil? what ever happend to that guy eh?

Theres been about 2000 sightings of The Jersey Devil, but no photos :O .
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Post #52     frazz Mar 24 2008, 9:35 pm

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Quote from SiNYeah but they were buried...There's a better possibility that a sasquatch's remains would be above ground.


How do you know they don't bury their dead?

Dinosaurs were killed off ages ago (some say millions, some say thousands). It is expected that few carcasses would remain. However, if you go around claiming that there's been a stable population of a certain creature for several centuries, you would expect to see some bodies.
[QUOTE]How do you know they don't bury their dead?/QUOTE]
There would be countless unexplained graves in random places.

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Post #53     Syphon[MM] Mar 24 2008, 9:56 pm

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[quote=frazz][quote=Syphon][quote=SiN]Yeah but they were buried...There's a better possibility that a sasquatch's remains would be above ground.[/quote]

How do you know they don't bury their dead?[/quote]
Dinosaurs were killed off ages ago (some say millions, some say thousands). It is expected that few carcasses would remain. However, if you go around claiming that there's been a stable population of a certain creature for several centuries, you would expect to see some bodies.
[QUOTE]How do you know they don't bury their dead?[/quote][/QUOTE]
There would be countless unexplained graves in random places.[/quote]

You do realise that there's a sizeable area of North America unexplored and/or uncolonised? And for all you know the Bigfeet could not have a stable population. Dinosaurs may have been around that long ago, but there were billions of them.
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Post #54     FatalException Mar 25 2008, 1:02 am

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Somehow, Syphon has suddenly made Bigfoot seem so much more plausible... :dontgetit:

I still think Nessie doesn't exist, though, unless plesiosaurs are immortal or have an invisibility/intangibility gene. How would one go about getting into and living in the lake, anyway?
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Post #55     Syphon[MM] Mar 25 2008, 1:27 am

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I think Nessie is some sort of deep water sturgeon, personally.
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Post #56     frazz Mar 25 2008, 1:38 am

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Quote from SiNYeah but they were buried...There's a better possibility that a sasquatch's remains would be above ground.


How do you know they don't bury their dead?

Dinosaurs were killed off ages ago (some say millions, some say thousands). It is expected that few carcasses would remain. However, if you go around claiming that there's been a stable population of a certain creature for several centuries, you would expect to see some bodies.
QuoteHow do you know they don't bury their dead?

There would be countless unexplained graves in random places.


You do realise that there's a sizeable area of North America unexplored and/or uncolonised? And for all you know the Bigfeet could not have a stable population. Dinosaurs may have been around that long ago, but there were billions of them.

Oh that's nice, but extremely irrelevant. All the "Bigfoot" sightings were in relatively civilized areas (or nearby such areas). If they only lived in a distant wilderness where nobody else lived, nobody would have seen them. Plus, there are a lot of people looking for "Bigfoot," but nobody has stumbled upon a grave and gone "ZOMG a Bigfoot corpse!!"
Also, if a group of animals exists in the same spot for centuries, it's more or less stable. Unless you want to say there have only been a few dozen or less Bigfoots (Bigfoots? Bigfeet? Bigfeets?) in existence since a long time ago, at which point you have to concede that the chances of seeing one actually alive are very slim, thus disproving all the sightings.
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Post #57     Syphon[MM] Mar 25 2008, 1:43 am

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Quote from SiNYeah but they were buried...There's a better possibility that a sasquatch's remains would be above ground.


How do you know they don't bury their dead?

Dinosaurs were killed off ages ago (some say millions, some say thousands). It is expected that few carcasses would remain. However, if you go around claiming that there's been a stable population of a certain creature for several centuries, you would expect to see some bodies.
QuoteHow do you know they don't bury their dead?

There would be countless unexplained graves in random places.


You do realise that there's a sizeable area of North America unexplored and/or uncolonised? And for all you know the Bigfeet could not have a stable population. Dinosaurs may have been around that long ago, but there were billions of them.

Oh that's nice, but extremely irrelevant. All the "Bigfoot" sightings were in relatively civilized areas (or nearby such areas). If they only lived in a distant wilderness where nobody else lived, nobody would have seen them. Plus, there are a lot of people looking for "Bigfoot," but nobody has stumbled upon a grave and gone "ZOMG a Bigfoot corpse!!"
Also, if a group of animals exists in the same spot for centuries, it's more or less stable. Unless you want to say there have only been a few dozen or less Bigfoots (Bigfoots? Bigfeet? Bigfeets?) in existence since a long time ago, at which point you have to concede that the chances of seeing one actually alive are very slim, thus disproving all the sightings.


Bears mainly live in uninhabited parts of the continent, but occasionally wander into urban centers. There are very few relative people hunting Bigfoot. It could be unstable in the sense that they migrate annually, or they are critically endangered. The bigfoot like entities in many native American folktales also hint at them being on their way out, but perhaps numerous in the past.
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Post #58     frazz Mar 25 2008, 4:58 am

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Yes, bears occasionally wander into urban areas, are video taped on a regularly basis and witnessed by numerous people. We have corpses and pretty dang hard evidence of bears. I don't see the connection to "Bigfoot."
Wait a minute, this argument is starting to go in a loop; let's recap.

If "Bigfoot" exists, where are all the corpses?
"Maybe they bury their dead?"
Then where are all the graves?
"Maybe they only live in uncivilized areas."
Then why are there countless sightings?

Frankly, I don't see the relevance of your bear comparison. I ask you now, what is your theory of the existence of "Bigfoot?"
I will assume that this is what you think (please correct me, I'll probably get something wrong):
Bigfoot is an endangered species, they bury their dead in obscure places and have never been a widespread species.

I ask then (as previously noted), why are there so many sightings? It follows from the fact of the sightings and your assumption that "Bigfoot" is real that either Bigfeets enjoy popping out and exposing them to individual humans only to return to their desolate places of isolation to bury their dead in secret well disguised graves, or that those sightings, pictures and videos are all fake.
This is still plausible, Bigfoot exists but all the sightings are fake and they bury their dead in obscure locations. However, under this theory, the existence of Bigfoot is about as plausible as the existence of the technologically advanced underground mole people (which most people will agree probably don't exist).

This post is a bit long, sorry, but please reply to the entirety of it.
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Post #59     Syphon[MM] Mar 25 2008, 5:11 am

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My theory is that bigfoot is extant pockets of gigantopithecus blacki, if it is still indeed extant, or, was if it is extinct. Most likely on the verge of extinction.

There aren't really as many reports of Big Foot as you claim. It's less than those of thylacines, which, while we know WERE extant up until about the 1930s, are presumed extinct. We have no recent physical evidence of them, but they're frequently reported.

It's really not unremarkable we've never found a corpse or remains if their primary territorial is deep in temperate forests. Carrion doesn't last long there. I don't know why you take this of evidence of no big foot. When I said "well maybe they bury their dead" I was just postulating. I don't believe bigfeet are social. (Which would make it far more likely we'd have discovered a population.)

I also believe bigfeet are migratory.
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Post #60     frazz Mar 25 2008, 5:29 am

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Gigantopithecus: read it.

All we have of this species is teeth and jawbones, not real convincing.
Assuming they do exist, they are only known to have existed in Asia (up until a few centuries ago). Thus, they would not likely explain Bigfoot, unless they migrated across the Bering Strait (is this what you think?).

Please explain to me the details of their migratory patterns (just general sorts of areas, no need to get really detailed) and why they migrate.
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