You ARE in a flame war, and you just got flamed :P Wait.. I guess that's kinda hypocritical :P Okay, back on topic.

You ARE in a flame war, and you just got flamed

Wait.. I guess that's kinda hypocritical

Okay, back on topic.

yes but will this discussion make a difference in the world? will gorge bush become dictator and say no gays? i think not
yeah.... thanks

yes but will this discussion make a difference in the world?
will gorge bush become dictator and say no gays?
i think not
yeah.... thanks

TitanWing, if religion isn't tied to this topic, it is all the more my right to scold Falkoner for various attempts to bash gays on the basis of religion. Also, I want some good solid proof from you to that you are even on topic at all. You are just voicing an unrelated opinion. By the way, you have no sense of reason in what you say to me, because by attacking me for attacking falconer, you are in effect attacking gays, which means you are guilty of doing exactly what you are telling me not to do, which is to bash people for their beliefs. Also, falconer, you aren't answering my question. Just because a crime is old, does that make it ok? No it doesn't. You are just picking out what you want to pick out.

TitanWing, if religion isn't tied to this topic, it is all the more my right to scold Falkoner for various attempts to bash gays on the basis of religion. Also, I want some good solid proof from you to that you are even on topic at all. You are just voicing an unrelated opinion. By the way, you have no sense of reason in what you say to me, because by attacking me for attacking falconer, you are in effect attacking gays, which means you are guilty of doing exactly what you are telling me not to do, which is to bash people for their beliefs.



Also, falconer, you aren't answering my question. Just because a crime is old, does that make it ok? No it doesn't. You are just picking out what you want to pick out.

I'd be kinda happy if he did, because all they do is drag down society, they don't contribute as they cannot reproduce, the first commandment to Adam and Eve. If something is in the past, to the point when it is not effecting us any more, we shouldn't still be crying about it, remember it, yes, but not still be complaining about how bad it was.

I'd be kinda happy if he did, because all they do is drag down society, they don't contribute as they cannot reproduce, the first commandment to Adam and Eve.

If something is in the past, to the point when it is not effecting us any more, we shouldn't still be crying about it, remember it, yes, but not still be complaining about how bad it was.

[Quote=PwnPirate]TitanWing, if religion isn't tied to this topic, it is all the more my right to scold Falkoner for various attempts to bash gays on the basis of religion. Also, I want some good solid proof from you to that you are even on topic at all. You are just voicing an unrelated opinion. By the way, you have no sense of reason in what you say to me, because by attacking me for attacking falconer, you are in effect attacking gays, which means you are guilty of doing exactly what you are telling me not to do, which is to bash people for their beliefs.[/Quote] You can support someone but still not necessarily support their belief.

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TitanWing, if religion isn't tied to this topic, it is all the more my right to scold Falkoner for various attempts to bash gays on the basis of religion. Also, I want some good solid proof from you to that you are even on topic at all. You are just voicing an unrelated opinion. By the way, you have no sense of reason in what you say to me, because by attacking me for attacking falconer, you are in effect attacking gays, which means you are guilty of doing exactly what you are telling me not to do, which is to bash people for their beliefs.

You can support someone but still not necessarily support their belief.

falkoner... what if the gays were a different religon and find that offensive... BUT RELIGON ISNT THE QUESTION china made jackie chan... or was that japan...

falkoner... what if the gays were a different religon and find that offensive...
BUT RELIGON ISNT THE QUESTION
china made jackie chan... or was that japan...

Do you think reproducing would help the world? No it wouldn't. Why do you think there is an overpopulation problem in China? Because they are overpopulated. Gay people pay taxes, and do everything a normal citizen does. One can argue that religious people drag down society, with their constant religious campaigns of outdated ideas.
[QUOTE] You can support someone but still not necessarily support their belief.[/QUOTE] That might have been the case, but he is telling me that I am bashing his ideas, which I am not because I am simply offering counter-arguments. I can assume that he is angry about my position about gays.

Do you think reproducing would help the world? No it wouldn't. Why do you think there is an overpopulation problem in China? Because they are overpopulated. Gay people pay taxes, and do everything a normal citizen does. One can argue that religious people drag down society, with their constant religious campaigns of outdated ideas.

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You can support someone but still not necessarily support their belief.

That might have been the case, but he is telling me that I am bashing his ideas, which I am not because I am simply offering counter-arguments. I can assume that he is angry about my position about gays.

[QUOTE]TitanWing, if religion isn't tied to this topic, it is all the more my right to scold Falkoner for various attempts to bash gays on the basis of religion. Also, I want some good solid proof from you to that you are even on topic at all. You are just voicing an unrelated opinion. By the way, you have no sense of reason in what you say to me, because by attacking me for attacking falconer, you are in effect attacking gays, which means you are guilty of doing exactly what you are telling me not to do, which is to bash people for their beliefs.[/QUOTE] I am bashing gays on the basis of my belief, and because I find it wrong whether or not I was religious. We are bashing them on their beliefs because they are going against the basic principals of life, to find a mate, and have children.

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TitanWing, if religion isn't tied to this topic, it is all the more my right to scold Falkoner for various attempts to bash gays on the basis of religion. Also, I want some good solid proof from you to that you are even on topic at all. You are just voicing an unrelated opinion. By the way, you have no sense of reason in what you say to me, because by attacking me for attacking falconer, you are in effect attacking gays, which means you are guilty of doing exactly what you are telling me not to do, which is to bash people for their beliefs.

I am bashing gays on the basis of my belief, and because I find it wrong whether or not I was religious. We are bashing them on their beliefs because they are going against the basic principals of life, to find a mate, and have children.

[QUOTE] If something is in the past, to the point when it is not effecting us any more, we shouldn't still be crying about it, remember it, yes, but not still be complaining about how bad it was.[/QUOTE] I'm not crying about it, I'm giving it as an example to something bad Christians have done. No matter how you look at it, Christians have still done it. Guilty means guilty.

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If something is in the past, to the point when it is not effecting us any more, we shouldn't still be crying about it, remember it, yes, but not still be complaining about how bad it was.

I'm not crying about it, I'm giving it as an example to something bad Christians have done. No matter how you look at it, Christians have still done it. Guilty means guilty.

[Quote=PwnPirate]TitanWing, if religion isn't tied to this topic, it is all the more my right to scold Falkoner for various attempts to bash gays on the basis of religion. Also, I want some good solid proof from you to that you are even on topic at all. You are just voicing an unrelated opinion. By the way, you have no sense of reason in what you say to me, because by attacking me for attacking falconer, you are in effect attacking gays, which means you are guilty of doing exactly what you are telling me not to do, which is to bash people for their beliefs. [/Quote] Oh...I see...so to disagree with you means I'm a hypocrit? Indeed...

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TitanWing, if religion isn't tied to this topic, it is all the more my right to scold Falkoner for various attempts to bash gays on the basis of religion. Also, I want some good solid proof from you to that you are even on topic at all. You are just voicing an unrelated opinion. By the way, you have no sense of reason in what you say to me, because by attacking me for attacking falconer, you are in effect attacking gays, which means you are guilty of doing exactly what you are telling me not to do, which is to bash people for their beliefs.

Oh...I see...so to disagree with you means I'm a hypocrit? Indeed...

[QUOTE]I'm not crying about it, I'm giving it as an example to something bad Christians have done. No matter how you look at it, Christians have still done it. Guilty means guilty.[/QUOTE] So are you saying that there is no way to repent of crimes you have done?

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I'm not crying about it, I'm giving it as an example to something bad Christians have done. No matter how you look at it, Christians have still done it. Guilty means guilty.

So are you saying that there is no way to repent of crimes you have done?

now now kids quit squabling you have already voiced your opinion now SHUT UP

now now kids quit squabling you have already voiced your opinion now SHUT UP

thanks for that but... i think falk won

thanks for that but... i think falk won

[QUOTE]So are you saying that there is no way to repent of crimes you have done?[/QUOTE] Once again, you refuse to understand what I am saying. I just told you, Christians have done bad things in the past. You said they never did anything bad. End of discussion. [QUOTE] I am bashing gays on the basis of my belief, and because I find it wrong whether or not I was religious. We are bashing them on their beliefs because they are going against the basic principals of life, to find a mate, and have children.[/QUOTE] The basic principle of life is to live. You are going against the basic principles of life by saying certain beings should not be allowed to live. [QUOTE]Oh...I see...so to disagree with you means I'm a hypocrit? Indeed...[/QUOTE] That's kind of what I explained to you in detail, I'm sad you didn't understand.

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So are you saying that there is no way to repent of crimes you have done?

Once again, you refuse to understand what I am saying. I just told you, Christians have done bad things in the past. You said they never did anything bad. End of discussion.

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I am bashing gays on the basis of my belief, and because I find it wrong whether or not I was religious. We are bashing them on their beliefs because they are going against the basic principals of life, to find a mate, and have children.

The basic principle of life is to live. You are going against the basic principles of life by saying certain beings should not be allowed to live.

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Oh...I see...so to disagree with you means I'm a hypocrit? Indeed...

That's kind of what I explained to you in detail, I'm sad you didn't understand.

I guess it is about time to end this, we are all entitled to our opinions, but I wish people would have better opinions.. PwnPirate, this is some advice I have for you, read the bible, you might learn something :P Cya Y'all

I guess it is about time to end this, we are all entitled to our opinions, but I wish people would have better opinions..

PwnPirate, this is some advice I have for you, read the bible, you might learn something

Cya Y'all

never mind

never mind

I wish people would have better opinions indeed.

I wish people would have better opinions indeed.

i still stand by the "its not our choice" opinion

i still stand by the "its not our choice" opinion

There is scientific evidence supporting that it is partly genetic, and partly influence. There are no sure decisions as of yet.

There is scientific evidence supporting that it is partly genetic, and partly influence. There are no sure decisions as of yet.

And alas the flame war has ended... so many posts have died in the attempt... and little survive... I thought this was done and over with?

And alas the flame war has ended...
so many posts have died in the attempt...
and little survive...

I thought this was done and over with?