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[2017-3-28. : 1:43 pm] LoveLess -- Blizzard has done dumb shit before and the Classic team may very well be nothing more than a "B-Team" kind of crew[2017-3-28. : 1:42 pm] outlawpoet -- if it's their goal to shore up security and they mentioned EUD, they can't possibly miss this too?[2017-3-28. : 1:41 pm] outlawpoet -- there's no way they're so incompetent they don't blanket remove this though, right?! I mean, they made the game, they have to know a few things about coding?[2017-3-28. : 1:35 pm] outlawpoet -- didn't know it'd gotten so advanced, and no wonder you were so anal about the difference between EUD/EUP lol[2017-3-28. : 1:27 pm] outlawpoet -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: outlawpoet the supply/speed up trick are very old, very well known overflows -- and very low-power ones, basically they either follow SEN or they don't know about the newer higher-powered EUPs http://www.staredit.net/topic/16553/ nice work on this, wow[2017-3-28. : 12:43 pm] Wing Zero -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: The adjutant has human eyes now, instead of creepy black eyeballs. I think the new adjutant needs more work. It looks wrong[2017-3-28. : 12:04 pm] jjf28 -- Yoon decompiled the speedup/supply the trick somewhere but now I can't remember[2017-3-28. : 11:57 am] jjf28 -- outlawpoetoutlawpoet shouted: I mean, seemingly everyone who has ever made a map in the last decade knows about extended supply the supply/speed up trick are very old, very well known overflows -- and very low-power ones, basically they either follow SEN or they don't know about the newer higher-powered EUPs http://www.staredit.net/topic/16553/[2017-3-28. : 9:11 am] IskatuMesk -- TF-TF- shouted: they think the original units were pixel art, so I doubt that nope[2017-3-28. : 8:01 am] Lanthanide -- it was the last feature I was going to do with EUD conditions but the amount of effort required to make it work on Windows and Mac was excessive[2017-3-28. : 8:00 am] Lanthanide -- if they add upgrade control for triggers then I'm seriously considering making Desert Strike Night Remastered[2017-3-28. : 7:43 am] BeatMeistro -- I wonder if SC Remastered will sneak in some "Bonus" content like the unused alpha/beta building/units.[2017-3-28. : 7:22 am] KrayZee -- With remastered 2 dimensional graphics, we now have corrected visual interpretation of the unit portraits. Unless of course the new Blizzard dev team interpret the portraits wrong like we did, and made the wrong updated graphics.[2017-3-28. : 7:02 am] outlawpoet -- I'm not worried about quality games getting buried tbh, there's a large community of diplo/war map players[2017-3-28. : 6:58 am] LoveLess -- Yeah but SC2 had better versions. People tend to prefer the more braindead stuff in Bw.[2017-3-28. : 6:58 am] outlawpoet -- very low quality games though despite a powerful editor, not sure wtf happened there[2017-3-28. : 6:58 am] LoveLess -- LoveLessLoveLess shouted: yeah but unless you get people playing it a lot and consistently, you're boned. I have no idea why they didn't just add a search bar that filters by name. LoveLessLoveLess shouted: So it works as it does now, but you can just type in say "sunk" and it starts showing sunken d or something. I never started talking about SC2, was still talking about SC1.[2017-3-28. : 6:57 am] outlawpoet -- ah ok I missed that. nah sc2 wasn't only defense maps and desert strike, I got quite a few civ and diplo games in[2017-3-28. : 6:56 am] LoveLess -- Yeah there's no search function in 1.16.1 so unless it's something added by iccup or fish.[2017-3-28. : 6:56 am] outlawpoet -- after patch I'll take a screenshot, not sure what you're referring to. it's honestly quite decent the way it is right now, I didn't have too many complaints compared to when it was first introduced[2017-3-28. : 6:55 am] LoveLess -- they do? never noticed it, thought you always had to manually type in the full room name for the game[2017-3-28. : 6:53 am] LoveLess -- So it works as it does now, but you can just type in say "sunk" and it starts showing sunken d or something.[2017-3-28. : 6:53 am] LoveLess -- yeah but unless you get people playing it a lot and consistently, you're boned. I have no idea why they didn't just add a search bar that filters by name.[2017-3-28. : 6:52 am] outlawpoet -- goddammit. ah well the arcade wasn't so bad last time I checked, at least they had a game list and you could advertise in actual chat channels[2017-3-28. : 6:50 am] outlawpoet -- LoveLessLoveLess shouted: outlawpoet They already said they are. darth vader noooooooo[2017-3-28. : 6:50 am] outlawpoet -- yeah there's a small contingent, but I learned to speak a little korean[2017-3-28. : 6:50 am] LoveLess -- outlawpoetoutlawpoet shouted: if they use the popularity system I'm gonna choke a bitch They already said they are.[2017-3-28. : 6:49 am] LoveLess -- Well it's going to get killed when the popularity system hits. BW is getting the arcade system for custom maps, so prepare to see nothing but sunken D and Desert Strike[2017-3-28. : 6:49 am] outlawpoet -- I don't use any in my latest diplo map either, for what it's worth[2017-3-28. : 6:48 am] outlawpoet -- my whole angle on this is I'm upset about how this is gonna break maps and kill some map communities since fish is gonna be integrated[2017-3-28. : 6:47 am] outlawpoet -- I mean, I have no beef with EUDs, lol, kinda weird way to sell it[2017-3-28. : 6:46 am] LoveLess -- sigsaucysigsaucy shouted: as in it got patched out a while ago? It never got patched out. EUDs did.[2017-3-28. : 6:46 am] outlawpoet -- ya but it makes sense to break it down by function since there are other functions[2017-3-28. : 6:45 am] sigsaucy -- i heard about the whole p13 scarab/ceptor stuff doing things, was it along those lines?[2017-3-28. : 6:44 am] outlawpoet -- sigsaucysigsaucy shouted: What is extended supply? preplacing buildings or units for specific extended players in order to allow supply to exceed 200[2017-3-28. : 6:41 am] outlawpoet -- I wasn't around for a lot of the discovery, I started making maps in ~2006[2017-3-28. : 6:36 am] LoveLess -- Like what was it back when it first got discovered, p13 scarabs or something?[2017-3-28. : 6:35 am] LoveLess -- Yeah we have known about it for a long time. Just kind of slipped my mind that those old tricks of placing extended units was EUP, because I am the retarded one here, not you [2017-3-28. : 6:33 am] outlawpoet -- anything that's come out by any decent mapmaker since then is at least aware it exists, even if they don't use it. all the koreans knew about it forever ago too, my friend is a former intothemap admin[2017-3-28. : 6:33 am] LoveLess -- Just figured you were getting EUDs and EUPs confused earlier. :><:[2017-3-28. : 6:32 am] LoveLess -- Oh well, hopefully they actually give us some tools back to compensate. |