You can do the same thing if you are cloning barrels and picking them up with a Drone/Scv/Probe then kill it sometimes it overwhelms the memory of Starcraft and crashes but it also makes random things that can be repicked up to change the attack animation of a unit etc scv into Firebat Flamethrower or it would actually move a building from somewhere on the map to the location the scv with the cloned barrel was killed..

I think this is the Hallucination glitch mentioned earlier.

@chia-tyrant
I ran the numbers based on the formulas you provided, and I see what you're saying about P9-P12. Is there any reason that players 1-8 can't be given extended units or have you just not found any that could?

Had a nerdgasm reading this thread. Someone please make a News post for the portal about this.

Only 5 things in this world have been able to inspire true joy in my heart. EUD's were one of them. Now Neo EUD's have given me that feeling again. Thank you Bio and jjf28, you are my heroes.

Can I give either of you $10?

You can give an extended unit to players 1-12. However, I don't think that you can pre-place an extended unit for players 1-8. I thought otherwise because I must have been writing to a certain address that made the game crash when I tried giving the unit to player 1-8.

I found a way to dynamically modify the unit ID of index 1628. I only found this one so far but I still have a lot of unit IDs to check, so it's very probable that we can modify many more indexes that way.

In the map I attached, you can increase your marine's ID by one by moving it to the right and decrease it by one by moving it to the left. There's no limit to the amount of changes that can be done. Be careful not to transform your marine into a goliath turret. Obviously, that will make the game crash.

I also attached a list of all the possible unit IDs that can be given to players 1-12 and that would modify the ID of the corresponding index (i.e. the only IDs for which dynamic modifications are possible). Unit ID 2547 is the only one that worked for me so far.

Edit: Sorry bio, I meant to write 1628, not 1636.

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Post has been edited 4 time(s), last time on Aug 12 2012, 5:13 pm by chia-tyrant.

Now, that is... Awesome. I mean seriously. You just, like...

Well, there's this map idea I had using these and you just made it possible, basically. For Oh_Man's contest. And it will be glorious.

Sent you some minerals as thanks.

EDIT: Heads-up: Your map works, but the Marine isn't actually at index 1636. It's at 1628. You have eight Start Locations below it, and those fail to exist in the unit table in SC, but SCMDraft still counts them as taking up an index.

EDIT2: Thought. Place one of chia-tyrant's units, then change it's unit ID with a normal neoEUD and kill it via trigger. It should add to one address and subtract from a different address.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Aug 12 2012, 6:26 pm by Biophysicist.

Been showing off these maps off to friends, they acted like I was god

Once we find a givable/noncrashing extended unit that can alter the location tables, we can make grid systems that require almost no resources with pixel accuracy.

Edit:
And one is found. Here's an example map that shift's location 147's X value. A Khalis Crystal is moved to the location every loop to indicate where the location is. This is absolutely revolutionary for grid systems.

Edit 2:
Attachment removed, see below one.

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Aug 13 2012, 1:52 am by Kaias.

Here's a much better version, where you can control both X and Y.

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Completed equations for the rest of the values mentioned earlier:

All Unit Counts Table:
48*UnitID + 4*Player + 5776160 (Placed Unit) <-- Chai's method

Completed Unit Counts Table:
48*UnitID + 4*Player + 5787104 (Placed Unit)

Killed Unit Counts Table:
48*UnitID + 4*KillingPlayer + 5798052 (Adds After Kill)

Death Counts Table:
48*UnitID + 4*Player + 5808992 (Adds After Death) <-- What we've mostly been using

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There may well be more like these to find!

Edit:
Just my 2-cents on the naming: They should now be called EUP's (Extended Unit Placement) or EUPA's (Extended Unit Placement Actions/Adjustments) as suggested by other SENners; neo-EUD covered this fairly well when it was only deaths, but this is no longer just unit deaths. neo-EUD actions would cover this slightly better, but no one uses 'actions' when they refer to these, nor would a 5-character acronym be desirable.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Aug 13 2012, 2:04 pm by jjf28.

Swapping a Goliath or Tank does not crash, and the hybrid retains its turret attack. A Tank/Carrier attacks with both Interceptors and its turret. I've attached an example map. (Try attacking the Academy after the hybrid destroys the Zerg units.) The hybrid will also receive the standard attacks of the new ID, and will attempt to use them, but this will crash the game. (Goliaths and Tanks technically don't have attack animations; their turrets do.)

EDIT: A Goliath swapped to a Reaver or Carrier (or, for that matter, any attacking Protoss unit) upon being selected. This is because it would need five icons: Armor, Shields, Interceptors, Hellfire Missiles, and Twin Autocannons. A Siege Tank swapped to a Scout will also crash upon selection.

EDIT2: Also attached a Goliath/Vessel that can attack as a Vessel and cast Defensive Matrix.

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Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Aug 13 2012, 10:09 pm by Biophysicist.

Here's a list of indexes you can edit and the unitID's/Player#'s to edit their unit type/button sets with.



If you know enough about Excel, you can find the corresponding information for any non-crashing, kill-able unit you find with the attached spreadsheet.

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Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Aug 14 2012, 10:02 pm by jjf28.

(By killing them, that is.)

It's possible to do all of this using plugins via GPTP and MPQDraft or FireGraft in a more reliable and easier fashion. It would be easier to experiment with the effects of changing unit IDs in said environments since they are controlled and consistent.

Anyone wanna make a 'Can you stop 1 unit?' map with these?

Would it be possible to make a hydralisk have plague as it's attack?

EDIT: ^ Using this method. Also would it be possible for a ghost's attack to become an EMP Shockwave?

EDIT 2: Would it also be possible to overlap an SCV on a probe so that it can build protoss units? O: Like it would say it was a Protoss Probe, but it would show an scv. And also would a normal scv just look like an scv after that and have it's own stats?

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Aug 21 2012, 4:52 pm by Mouse.

No for both, unfortunately. No for the first one, but see the next post regarding the second one.

You can't make units use abilities that they don't have the animation for.

The exceptions (abilities which do not require an animation) are:

• StimPack
  
• Spider Mines
  
• Cloaking
  
• Recall
  
• Scanner Sweep
  
• Defensive Matrix
  
• Hallucination
  
• Mind Control
  
• Feedback
  
• Maelstrom

This you can certainly do.


Yes.

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Aug 25 2012, 12:59 am by Azrael.

Actually, the units that have targetable spells (like the ghost) can cast any spell (like EMP shockwave).

You wouldn't be able to make the ghost's default attack become EMP shockwave though, if that's what you were asking.

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That is fantastic I must have coincidentally only ever switched units where at least one didn't have targeted spells. Well, I also changed an Infested Kerrigan into an HT, and casting Psi Storm didn't crash, but I had assumed it was because she could already cast that specific spell

Orders have pointers to animation labels defined in iscript.bin.

All spells use either CastSpell label or no label at all (some might be hardcoded not to have an animation. I may investigate the ones that Az has listed if I feel like it).

I know for certain that Mind Control has no animation. Not sure about Feedback and Maelstrom.

You guys might want to test out a unit chnaged into a High Templar and try to have them merge into an Archon. I'm leaning towards success since I have done something similar, although I don't recall the details so it still may fail.

Try for DTs and DAs also.