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Wacom Cintiq 21UX
May 25 2010, 5:21 am
By: Fire_Kame  

May 25 2010, 5:21 am Fire_Kame Post #1

wth is starcraft

...so am I really behind the times, or do I have a right to be in love with this tablet?

http://www.wacom.com/cintiq/cintiq-21ux.php

Seriously...I'm going to die...this is fulfilling everything I've ever wanted in my life. Is that sad? I used to talk to people about this type of technology and they're response was "there's no way you can make a screen pressure sensitive...blah blah blah"

but its here...and...*drool*




May 26 2010, 6:39 pm RIVE Post #2

Just Here For The Pie

That is a pretty nice tablet. I do not quite understand the idea of the pen sensitivity. Does it just make strokes more accurate to what you might envision or how you would draw on paper?

I do not think I would ever blow 2,000USD on a tablet. I am happy with my basic, 170USD tablet.



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May 28 2010, 12:15 am Fire_Kame Post #3

wth is starcraft

Well, with tablets...the harder you push in the thicker the line. I think the tip is on a pivot. But if you saw the video, not only is it super sensitive to pressure, it also has an air-brush function thing that senses angle.

I still want it. So expensive though!




May 29 2010, 3:35 am RIVE Post #4

Just Here For The Pie

Oh.. look at that. I did not even see the video. I just kind of read everything under the price.

Yes, the video seems like it wants to 'wow' you, but I am not impressed.
Like I said, I am happy with what I got, but have you gave it a try yet?

I would not suggest buying anything without trying it first.
A good tablet is like a good instrument or a good tool. It may be good, but, if it does not feel right, it will not make you happy. There goes 2,000USD.



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May 29 2010, 3:38 am Fire_Kame Post #5

wth is starcraft

I don't have the money to buy it. :( But I would love to play with one and see how it works. I don't know of anyplace that sells tablets. I don't even think my local Best Buy stocks with demos.




May 29 2010, 4:49 am RIVE Post #6

Just Here For The Pie

I will agree, it is tough finding demos of such products.
The only times I ever get to play with them are at conventions.

At least you can dream.



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May 29 2010, 5:52 am Corbo Post #7

ALL PRAISE YOUR SUPREME LORD CORBO

I honestly wouldn't get it. As much as I've always dreamed about a tablet that could... get drawn on it like this one I wouldn't pay that much money on one. It was hard enough for me to pay $200 for my bamboo one :P
And honestly it works just swell, does everything I want, though, I do wish I could see what I'm drawing on the tablet, like on real paper.

http://www.wacom.com/bamboo/bamboo_pen_touch.php

Yay at me paying $100 more just because I live in a third world country.



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May 29 2010, 7:22 am ShredderIV Post #8



Definitely is very sexy.

I'd only get one if i was a hardcore professional though.



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May 29 2010, 7:50 am FlashBeer Post #9



I have the smaller ver, the Cintiq 12Wx

There are a few things to consider about the tablet monitor...
If you have never used a tablet before, drawing on the tablet monitor may not be as you expect. While they say all this "pen-on-paper" feel, it feels VERY different from it. The pressure-gauging tip also taps in a bit every time you press down on it, feeling less like a pen or pencil (the eraser feels worse). There is a small protective screen between the actual display and your pen, which means you aren't drawing 'exactly' where your pen is (even with calibration). The drawing surface is very smooth, causing your pen to glide over the surface, which may make your lines a bit more squiggly. The monitor may also become very hot, since they stick the part that heats-up directly under where you rest your arm (It would be nice if they could put it in the top corner). Oils from your hand smudge all over your screen, so you have to wipe it down frequently. (For the small one) You have a thick cord running from the top corner of your display, which sometimes prevents your monitor from rotating smoothly.

Now with all that being said, I love my pen monitor. Worth $1000. You will eventually get used to all I mentioned above. While it is still easier to draw on paper, it can't beat the flexibility of photoshop & tablet. I lay out my tablet in front, keyboard behind for hotkeys, and main monitor for music/reference pictures/anything else.
Now back to my drawing...



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May 29 2010, 7:58 am ShredderIV Post #10



Are you a graphics design student flash?



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May 29 2010, 9:04 am FlashBeer Post #11



No, I just really like drawing/creating. I was thinking about doing graphic design part time, but I would need to study some HTML and PHP. (Which I guess is like sc triggers, just less fun)



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May 29 2010, 9:09 am Jack Post #12

>be faceless void >mfw I have no face

Quote from FlashBeer
No, I just really like drawing/creating. I was thinking about doing graphic design part time, but I would need to study some HTML and PHP. (Which I guess is like sc triggers, just less fun)
HTML is easier than SC. It's php that's a bit harder, but some stuff from SC carries over.



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May 29 2010, 12:32 pm ShredderIV Post #13



Also, on the previous topic of pressure sensitivity, it means a ton of a difference between 1024 levels and 2048 levels of sensitivity, but you will only really notice if you've done a lot of work with a tablet. Sensitivity not only gives you a "pressure" effect, but helps stuff come out smoother in PS or whatnot due to the thinning of lines, etc. It also depends on the program you use. Sensitivity does nothing unless you're using a program that makes use of it, like PS.
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there's no way you can make a screen pressure sensitive
Tell the people that said this that they are retarded. It's not in the screen itself actually, but in the pen.
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No, I just really like drawing/creating. I was thinking about doing graphic design part time, but I would need to study some HTML and PHP. (Which I guess is like sc triggers, just less fun)
Not really... My sister does some graphic design and wouldn't know what PHP or HTML coding are if they hit her with a tuna.



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May 29 2010, 1:55 pm EzDay281 Post #14



Practically one of my life goals is to sometime try a Cintiq (or the equivalent product of whenever I'm out of debt and have massive spare money. ... yeah, that's happening soon, when I can't see any realistically likely means of it happening). Curiosity overwhelming.

I had the chance to get one a couple years back, when my mother was buying me a new tablet and she kept trying to insist that I not think about the prices. I went with an Intuos instead. Which, considering the state of my wrists and the fact that I've not even used it in months, was probably a good idea.



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May 29 2010, 5:21 pm FlashBeer Post #15



Quote from ShredderIV
Not really... My sister does some graphic design and wouldn't know what PHP or HTML coding are if they hit her with a tuna.

A lot of employers are looking for people with web design experience, hard to find for just knowledge on PS.



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May 29 2010, 8:58 pm Fire_Kame Post #16

wth is starcraft

Quote from FlashBeer
I have the smaller ver, the Cintiq 12Wx

There are a few things to consider about the tablet monitor...
If you have never used a tablet before, drawing on the tablet monitor may not be as you expect. While they say all this "pen-on-paper" feel, it feels VERY different from it. The pressure-gauging tip also taps in a bit every time you press down on it, feeling less like a pen or pencil (the eraser feels worse). There is a small protective screen between the actual display and your pen, which means you aren't drawing 'exactly' where your pen is (even with calibration). The drawing surface is very smooth, causing your pen to glide over the surface, which may make your lines a bit more squiggly. The monitor may also become very hot, since they stick the part that heats-up directly under where you rest your arm (It would be nice if they could put it in the top corner). Oils from your hand smudge all over your screen, so you have to wipe it down frequently. (For the small one) You have a thick cord running from the top corner of your display, which sometimes prevents your monitor from rotating smoothly.

Now with all that being said, I love my pen monitor. Worth $1000. You will eventually get used to all I mentioned above. While it is still easier to draw on paper, it can't beat the flexibility of photoshop & tablet. I lay out my tablet in front, keyboard behind for hotkeys, and main monitor for music/reference pictures/anything else.
Now back to my drawing...

I bought my first tablet when I was in seventh grade for three hundred bucks. :) It was also a Wacom...and nine years later lo and behold omg it still works. It works swimmingly, too. This one is just so sexy... I'd probably get the smaller version. I have always been much better at traditional art because I could look and see on my pad of paper where I was marking. That was the biggest frustration with my tablet. But this one...this is beautiful. I'm sorry, I went all ga ga for it when I first saw it.




May 30 2010, 3:05 am FlashBeer Post #17




Here is my normal desktop layout...


and this is when I draw.



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Jun 1 2010, 2:54 am ShredderIV Post #18



Flash, you should cover up your pinky and ring finger when you draw (unless you already do) in order to reduce smudging on it.

You can modify any simple glove fine. I know I've seen a lot of graphic designers who wear them when they draw.



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Jun 1 2010, 3:05 am Centreri Post #19

Relatively ancient and inactive

It's nice, but, yes, unless you're a professional and you really need it, I wouldn't get it. And, yes, you drooling over it and believing it to be everything you ever wanted IS sad. I don't even feel that way while looking at Windows Phone 7 previews online. :awesome:



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Jun 1 2010, 4:00 am FlashBeer Post #20



I've seen gloves like those- the smudge guard gloves. It doesn't really matter that much to me if I had something like them or not. Wiping the screen isn't that bothersome.



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