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Oct 1 2009, 9:50 pm Phobos Post #261

Are you sure about that?

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Oct 1 2009, 10:26 pm Bar Refaeli Post #262



thats bad advice right there



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Oct 1 2009, 10:50 pm Phobos Post #263

Are you sure about that?

The context implies that not giving advice is better than giving terrible advice.



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Oct 1 2009, 11:05 pm Decency Post #264



How is being able to be magic immune for an entire teamfight instead of 4 seconds of it "useless?"

Chronos already has a bash. -> Brutalizer.
Succubus already has disables -> Totem.
Soulstealer already has an armor debuff -> Shieldbreaker.
etc.

That was something I was considering, but it seems situational. I think you'd only want that against a team that's heavy with disablers who are still going to have some spells up after 5 seconds of a teamfight.

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Oct 1 2009, 11:10 pm Lingie Post #265



I think it should look more like this..:

Soulstealer -> Deamonic Breastplate. Aura effect, with only -1 armor lost. Also, attack speed for you, and your friends.



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Oct 2 2009, 12:31 am Forsaken Archer Post #266



I love going demonic as my last item for arachna. Really brings them down. If someone else went shield breaker, I wonder how fast tanks would fall.



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Oct 2 2009, 12:33 am Neki Post #267



I went Shrunken Head on Predator once. It was because they had an Electrician though, so he would purge my magic immune, then I would activate Shrunken and it would let me dps a little longer. I usually go at least Vanguard and Transmute as my core items. I've gone Heart and Demonic Breastplate, but it didn't work out too well. I was thinking of going lifesteal and more dps maybe. I think the best combination would be mock though with something.



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Oct 2 2009, 1:49 am Phobos Post #268

Are you sure about that?

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I love going demonic as my last item for arachna. Really brings them down. If someone else went shield breaker, I wonder how fast tanks would fall.
Seen it. Do not remember if I got it, but I think I can recall I did it once. Negative armor is lulzy.

Edit: olol I think one of the 2 effects works on towers, and both combined can screw any Lego up.


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Oct 2 2009, 2:12 am rockz Post #269

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I went Shrunken Head on Predator once. It was because they had an Electrician though, so he would purge my magic immune, then I would activate Shrunken and it would let me dps a little longer. I usually go at least VanguardHelm of the Black Legion and TransmuteAlchemist Bones as my core items. I've gone Heart and Demonic Breastplate, but it didn't work out too well. I was thinking of going lifesteal and more dps maybe. I think the best combination would be mock though with something.




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Oct 2 2009, 2:34 am ForTheSwarm Post #270



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Chronos already has a bash. -> Brutalizer.

I agree with the rest of your post, but not this part. DPS items would benefit chronos more than a semi-perma stun.



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Oct 2 2009, 2:35 am Neki Post #271



Quote from rockz
Quote from name:Ultimo
I went Shrunken Head on Predator once. It was because they had an Electrician though, so he would purge my magic immune, then I would activate Shrunken and it would let me dps a little longer. I usually go at least VanguardHelm of the Black Legion and TransmuteAlchemist Bones as my core items. I've gone Heart and Demonic Breastplate, but it didn't work out too well. I was thinking of going lifesteal and more dps maybe. I think the best combination would be mock though with something.
Lol, I didn't even say the DotA name of alchemist bones though. =)



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Oct 2 2009, 5:08 am Decency Post #272



Quote from ForTheSwarm
Quote from name:FaZ-
Chronos already has a bash. -> Brutalizer.

I agree with the rest of your post, but not this part. DPS items would benefit chronos more than a semi-perma stun.
From what I've heard if you pick Chronos you've already lost anyway. =p

You are likely correct, I've never read anything that seemed concrete on that, and for Pestilence who has a similar skillset and role you don't go bash.



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Oct 2 2009, 5:17 am Forsaken Archer Post #273



chronos = get parasite + criticals + tclaw, bubble it up and illusion yourself and go wild



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Oct 2 2009, 5:17 am Excalibur Post #274

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Pest doesn't go bash because most bash skills, (I know Pest's does, no idea about Chronos) have it in their tooltip that they share cooldown with bash items.

I've been playing Pest lately because my friend Mark loves to play Scout, so I try and make sure they can't counter him. I've done well, and he's got an easy build:
E Marchers, Abyssal Skull, Insanitarius, Demonic, whateverelseyouwant.




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Oct 2 2009, 5:25 am Neki Post #275



Pest also doesn't have attack speed to support bash, money is much spent better elsewhere, like Insanitarius as Ex said. Also devilesk, I know you're reading, improve your game man. :P



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Oct 2 2009, 5:54 am Excalibur Post #276

The sword and the faith

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Pest also doesn't have attack speed to support bash, money is much spent better elsewhere, like Insanitarius as Ex said. Also devilesk, I know you're reading, improve your game man. :P
Exactly, he's build dependent. By the time you have E marchers and the warpcleft for the Demonic Breastplate, he has enough AS that between his stun and bash you can have a pretty solid punching bag of a target. Couple that with armor reduction from his ulti, and hes a great killer. Of course this usually requires being overleveled and overfed. The Insanitarius just adds to the madness. :sly:




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Oct 2 2009, 2:43 pm Decency Post #277



Pestilence is supposed the best carry in the game right now. I'm interested to see if this will change with the Mercurial port. From what I've heard from my friends in the DotA community, the top 3 or 4 true agility carries in DotA haven't been ported yet.

Pesti has ridiculous spell synergy. His stun does physical damage so if you use it on an ulted target it does extra damage. On top of that, he has free time to get his bash to proc on a pretty good sized AoE, definitely bigger than it looks, and with enhanced marchers and flight he has max movement speed and unitwalking to place it perfectly. The invis reveal definitely doesn't hurt either.



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Oct 2 2009, 3:55 pm Bar Refaeli Post #278



lulzy is how DS's healing spell does massive damage on enemies that are under his ultimate's affect



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Oct 2 2009, 9:14 pm Bar Refaeli Post #279



new hero coming out. looks awesome.

i tested out ophelia in practice mode, and i killed kongor when i was level 7.
i had 2 minotaurs, and 1 gotar. my items were enhanced marchers, 2 pretender crowns, and 1 mana potion. and i just pwned him.



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Oct 2 2009, 10:08 pm ShredderIV Post #280



u talking about teh panda?

and i once, with ds's ult n lvl one, did around 600 damage to a jereziah in one attack while healing myself, since he had gotten no armor, he was at like, -10 by the end of the ult.



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