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Man of the Week
Mar 12 2009, 10:57 pm
By: Moose  

Mar 12 2009, 10:57 pm Moose Post #1

We live in a society.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2312969.ece
http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2009/03/man_beats_shark.php
http://www.nypost.com/photos/galleries/news/nationalnews/pp_20090312_shark_killer/photo04.htm



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“I shot it six times — but it was resilient. We put a rope around its tail and dragged it from the back of the boat to drown it.

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“In the end I had to put a knife in its skull. I have so much respect for sharks, this is not something I’m proud of — but we had to protect ourselves.

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“Personally I never shoot anything or kill anything that I am not going to eat. We saved the tail and the head, cut a giant chunk out of it and ate a piece.”





Mar 12 2009, 11:05 pm chuiu Post #2



I bet he ate its heart. He's that badass.



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Mar 12 2009, 11:56 pm Centreri Post #3

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Animal cruelty. Bastard should've died, the human to shark ratio's large enough that each shark is worth more than an annoying diver. A comment to your second link:
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You had a story on earlier that showed a man fighting with a large shark. You also showed that he killed the shark. My mother and I were watching and saw the two heavy lines coming out of the shark’s back (along with the harpoon in his gills) and think that you have wrongly reported on it. It seems a little unfair and inhumane. Sharks are easily fended off and do not have to be killed to do so… and why did it attack, what are those two heavy lines coming from its back?
The man is no hero. I’d look more into these stories before reporting them.

It's extremely easy, when going 'spear fishing' somewhere no one is, to make up a story, and photos are definitely not conclusive in regard to this being completely out of self-defense. And even if it was, it was definitely preventable self-defense, since he went fishing in the waters of a shark-infested area... jackass.

At any rate, I'm hosting the next one.



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Mar 13 2009, 12:47 am Mr.Camo Post #4



Way the rain on the parade, bro. He shot it six times with his spear gun because he was saving his partner's life. Alright, so when a bear comes to your house and fucks up your family I'll be right here in your thread saying "Animal cruelty, you could have let it live it's peaceful life of killing humans."

Survival of the fittest.

The dude is a badass, plain and simple. Plus, he was sad as hell, he had respect for the creature; it's not like he was like "THERE'S A SHARK, LET'S KILL THAT BITCH".



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Mar 13 2009, 1:03 am Centreri Post #5

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Plus, he was sad as hell, he had respect for the creature; it's not like he was like "THERE'S A SHARK, LET'S KILL THAT BITCH".
How would you know? Were you there, or were you like me and just saw photos with him wrestling with it followed by kind words? Fail.

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Survival of the fittest.
That's definitely not the basis of civilisation..

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Way the rain on the parade, bro. He shot it six times with his spear gun because he was saving his partner's life. Alright, so when a bear comes to your house and fucks up your family I'll be right here in your thread saying "Animal cruelty, you could have let it live it's peaceful life of killing humans."
No, that's not what happened... what happened is that I came into a bears cave and when it tries to kill me I kill it instead. THAT is the equivalent of what was done by this jackass.



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Mar 13 2009, 1:32 am ToA Post #6

Que Sera, Sera.

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Plus, he was sad as hell, he had respect for the creature; it's not like he was like "THERE'S A SHARK, LET'S KILL THAT BITCH".
How would you know? Were you there, or were you like me and just saw photos with him wrestling with it followed by kind words? Fail.

you don't fucking know either, shut up.




Mar 13 2009, 1:32 am Lt.Church Post #7



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No, that's not what happened... what happened is that I came into a bears cave and when it tries to kill me I kill it instead. THAT is the equivalent of what was done by this jackass.

nah its more aligned to going to the bear's cave to steal its food then when its like WTF MY FOOD and goes after it you start shooting it, even though its injured and probably couldnt charge at you anymore you shoot hit and strangle it to finish it off.

I'd like to point out the ratio of people who kill people was 474 for every 100,000 people in the usa which was about 289 million at that census, the amount of recorded shark to person deaths was 38 shark attacks in the usa, 62 reported worldwide, 11 resulting in death, however tens of thousands of sharks are killed annually for their fins or for sport.

In my opinion its about as proper as going into a forest and taking all of a grizzly bears salmon before killing it to 'save yourself' because you were stupid enough to take its food when it was openly available by other means.

I'd consider this more 'douche of the week' than 'man of the week'.



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Mar 13 2009, 1:33 am Centreri Post #8

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you don't fucking know either, shut up.
Hey, Toa just sided against me. As you can all see, conclusive proof that my argument is superior :D.

Read the rest of my post, jackass. I put reasons. If you don't see them, go take a nice cold shower. If that doesn't help, go find a nice cliff.

Church, thanks for backing me up.



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Mar 13 2009, 1:36 am Mr.Camo Post #9



LOL. Hardest I've laughed in a long time. :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Mar 13 2009, 1:37 am Centreri Post #10

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I try. Mind telling me what in particular, though? ^^



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Mar 13 2009, 1:40 am Lt.Church Post #11



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Church, thanks for backing me up.

i've actually debated about proper animal rights prior to this so it wasnt all that much trouble. Useless animal right like the majority of peta makes me laugh however, considering in i think it was 2005 over 1/2 of the animals they 'saved' were euthanized and their cadavers put in a large walk-in freezer.



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Mar 13 2009, 1:42 am Centreri Post #12

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Eh. I'm not much for animal rights, generally. It's just when jackasses provoke them and then brag about how awesome and peaceloving they are that I get riled up.



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Mar 13 2009, 1:45 am Mr.Camo Post #13



I wasn't trying to argue at all, to be honest. I just think it's somewhat ridiculous that you'd outright say animal cruelty. We both weren't there, so we don't really know.

However, I like to assume most people are inherently good, which isn't likely in everyone's case. However, it's been proven that a punch to the nose of a shark will make it go away for a little while, then come back for more. It's curious if anything. Still though; if I saw a god damn tiger shark coming for my best friend and looking at him like a fresh piece of fried chicken I'd be inclined to shoot and stab the fucker then have my best friend eaten.

Agree to disagree?



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Mar 13 2009, 1:45 am Lt.Church Post #14



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Eh. I'm not much for animal rights, generally. It's just when jackasses provoke them and then brag about how awesome and peaceloving they are that I get riled up.

the majority of 'animal rights' involve not processing animals for food, which is in my opinion retarded as every living thing uses the energy aka life of something else to live, aside from stars. Plants take energy for stars main one being our sun, certain animals get energy from said plants, said animals give energy to larger animals and so on. If you eat plants or animals either way youre eating something that was formely alive.

My considering of animal rights is killing for sport, not for food; aswell as killing by opportunity like *well im here with this gun moswell see what its like*, and just plain abuse such as beating your dog because you can or some absurd reason.



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Mar 13 2009, 1:49 am Centreri Post #15

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I wasn't trying to argue at all, to be honest. I just think it's somewhat ridiculous that you'd outright say animal cruelty. We both weren't there, so we don't really know.

However, I like to assume most people are inherently good, which isn't likely in everyone's case. However, it's been proven that a punch to the nose of a shark will make it go away for a little while, then come back for more. It's curious if anything. Still though; if I saw a god damn tiger shark coming for my best friend and looking at him like a fresh piece of fried chicken I'd be inclined to shoot and stab the fucker then have my best friend eaten.

Agree to disagree?
Sure. My main point was, though, that he wasn't a hero primarily for putting himself in the position that he had to kill a shark in order to keep himself and others alive. He's a completely jackass for doing that, and then he went around acting in touch with nature, eating shark, etc. I'd defend myself if I needed to, sure; but I wouldn't put myself in that position in the first place.

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the majority of 'animal rights' involve not processing animals for food, which is in my opinion retarded as every living thing uses the energy aka life of something else to live, aside from stars. Plants take energy for stars main one being our sun, certain animals get energy from said plants, said animals give energy to larger animals and so on. If you eat plants or animals either way youre eating something that was formely alive.

My considering of animal rights is killing for sport, not for food; aswell as killing by opportunity like *well im here with this gun moswell see what its like*, and just plain abuse such as beating your dog because you can or some absurd reason.
Oh, yes, I'm completely for that. I also think they need some more humane methods for killing animals, but hey, that's the beauty of capitalism - do whatever needs done, just do it cheap.



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Mar 13 2009, 1:52 am Lt.Church Post #16



i unno i doubt my opinion will change anything so i've said what i've said and i dont think ill make another post about this. Please make next man of the week someone who did something good without killing something, maybe a firefighter who like rescued multiple people when everyone else gave up hope. something like that.



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Mar 13 2009, 2:07 am Moose Post #17

We live in a society.

FINE: http://www.sptimes.com/2003/05/03/Worldandnation/To_save_his_life__hik.shtml

But Aron Ralston is not this week.




Mar 13 2009, 2:41 am Syphon Post #18



Fun fact: When sharks are oriented vertically, with their snouts pointing downwards, they become paralysed.



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Mar 13 2009, 2:48 am Mr.Camo Post #19



Aron Ralston is the badass of the fucking universe.



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Mar 13 2009, 3:41 am lSHaDoW-FoXl Post #20



Regarding the Shark I have a complaint. All the stories only say the general news, and obvious situation. ''Man kills Shark, survives.'' I don't mind at all if someone kills an animal out of defence, obviously because that's survival of the fittest. At the same time however, there is nothing stating his reason why he is there, for all we know he could've been there for no reason.

Aw well, what I find sad is that if the shark won then people would probably start putting bounties on all sharks in general. Much like the situation where this idiot decided to take a walk into the dark woods at night time and ended up dying, thus there was a bounty implaced on wolves. (Seriously, how is Palin in politics if she is this stupid?)

Aw well, if he did do it to save his friend then that's awesome. however, I won't make any judgement he is a "Hero" or that he isn't one, not until I get the full story anyway.



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