Well the deal is that right now I am signed up for a beginning in oracle programming class for next semester. However, I don't know if this is what I should be learning. I know that it's always good to have another language beneath the belt, but I don't plan on doing much database programming (which is what I understand oracle to be). The alternative is that I take a programming class from the local collage, but I'm not sure if they offer one yet, or if it's about oop, which is all I'm interested in. Any opinions on which I should choose?

Learning database programming will help you with future jobs unless you get lucky and become a game programmer. Pretty much everything else touches a database at some point.

And SQL is very easy compared to pretty much every other language.

This coming from someone who has taken an oracle SQL class.

Well OOP is not a very hard concept to understand...Utilizing it, is where it gets to be a hard process...

I'd stick with the Oracle class and find out where you can go from there

I don't find OOP very complicated. I think that most people are boggled by OOP when they go and try to learn OO, and basic programming fundamentals as well. The worst thing you can do is something like trying to learn object orientation, C, and some sort of GUI all at the same time. Doing that is setting yourself up for failure. If you really want to learn OO, I suggest learning how to make a variety of basic console programs with C, and once proficient (without reference to an outer source), move onto OOP. If you don't know how to use basic things like arrays and variables, in conjunction with control structures like if then, and various types of loops, then it's going to be difficult to understand object orientation. What I did, is I learned C, and in doing so I learned some "limitations" of C. Once I started hitting on OO, I understood OO as well as the advantages of it.

C doesn't have OOP capabilities...At least from what I've always been told by C programmers. Which is why C++ was made and all that stuff.

C++ isn't the only OOP language, either...But I do recommend it to anyone who wants to learn programming.

Java is really good for Network stuff (and is pretty much pure OOP) and Mobile devices. C/C++ for software development/engineering. C# (also pretty much pure OOP) is good for creating Web based software-esque things, but sucks because its not that great at being cross-platform (which is why I would stick with C/C++ in that scenario)

Learning a lot of different languages is a good thing in my opinion, because then you can utilize different aspects of different languages to make it easier for what you are trying to do.

Well it really depends on what you want to do with your programming. If you are going to be coding things that are extremely performance intensive, C++ is the only way to go. If you just want to be a general coder, then you could learn on Java or C/C++ just fine. If you want to get into the game dev industry, C++ is the absolutely only way to go.

I recommend to anyone who wants to learn programming to start with C, then move onto C++. I also really like Python, because of how simple and fun it is to code things in

If you just want to be able to cook up quick little programs, but aren't interested in coding professionally, I would recommend Python, or maybe VB.

Agreed.

I have no knowledge of C, but I know C++...I guess it just all depends on the individual's ability to comprehend and learn things

I've heard good things about Python, and I also think they use Python in Server scripting (or maybe it was Perl)

If you know c++, you pretty much know C.

It'd be Perl, not python, that's used for server scripts, but there are probably more modern languages you could learn instead.

Python can also be used if the server has it installed, though.

C syntax is different from C++...So you don't really 'pretty much know C' if you know C++....

No actually everything you can do in C is applicable to C++. You can think of C++ as a mega expansion to C, sort of how everything in SC original is compatible with the expansion, but not vice-versa.

I know, but what I'm saying is that the syntax and keywords are different.

C: printf("hello, world\n");
C++ cout << "Basic output to the console";

I know C++ but I don't know jack about C..Lol!

You can use printf and sprintf in C++, but the standard I/O stream of C++ is a more commonly used alternative. C++ is backwards compatible.

I'm not denying that, so why are you stating it? I've simply stated that C and C++ have different syntax and keywords...Care to point out where I've stated they aren't compatible with one another? Lolz

What? An rl example using starcraft? My head asplode. You sir, win the internet.

What you are comparing are the C and C++ libraries, not the languages themselves. Using the << operator for output and >> for input is not a type of syntax that is really part of the C++ language. It is just something put into the standard C++ libraries, but any C++ library could do it, and it didn't need to be those specific operators either - another operator could have been chosen instead when writing up the library. It is using a feature that is in C++ and not in C to do this, however.

Wrong.

Care to say why? Everything I've seen and heard about C is that it's not.


Unless you want to count a structure an object. Which it isn't really. Especially in C. C++, sure, but not C.

Yeah, I'm interested in knowing what you are talking about..