Yeah so, let's say, i'm trying to make a map where you gotta kill ANY enemy units from ANY player to score 20 kills. The problem is that when i try to use the "Kill" condition, it asks me WHICH player needs to score 20 kills (Lets say it's force 1), then it asks me the quantity mode (Exactly) and the quantity number (20) and of WHICH unit (any), but it doesn't ask me which player/force the units that are to be killed must be from.

Therefore, i don't know how to make this victory condition work. It might sound silly i know.

So yeah, if anyone can help PLEASE. And thans beforehand, too.

Since the player can kill ANY unit from ANY player, the trigger you have should work.

Edit : The actual trigger.

Conditions :
Current Player kills Exactly 20 [any unit].
Actions :
Victory

Yeah but it's a 4-way battle with 2 players on each team, so what if they kill eachother just to earn their kills and win? That'd be lame.

Sorry for not including this information though, i forgot >.<.

Try Perfect Kills to Cash, but add to a deathcount instead of minerals. Then, when the deathcount reaches 20, victory. I can explain more if necessary.

...Yes it's kinda necessary...

Sorry i don't really understand too much concepts of "advanced" map-making. Heck, only recently i started using Scmdraft 2.

You want to read these articlds
http://www.staredit.net/wiki/Kills_To_Cash
http://www.staredit.net/wiki/Death_Counters

But when i think, the easiest way is probably something along the lines of a trigger like this.

Player 1
Current player has killed exactly one Men owned by force 2

Actions:
Set deaths, add 1 deaths of Cantina for Player1

Trigger 2

Player 1
Current player has killed exactly two Men owned by force 2

Actions:
Set deaths, add 1 deaths of Cantina for Player1

Keep copying these triggers, 20 times total, adding 1 to the kills in the condition. Then copy all those triggers twice each, and change the force in the first twenty to force 3, and the force in the next twenty to force 4.

Then add
Player 1
Conditions
Current player has suffered exactly 20 deaths of cantina.

Actions
End game in victory for current player

Copy THAT trigger 7 times, changing who runs the trigger from player 1 to player 2, 3 etc.

I'll stop now, there's more to be done but I'm busy ATM. That method is the simplest, although fairly tedious.

Well it does seem simple enough. Thanks for the help.

EDIT: Although in the first post i state that the trigger condition does not give me the option to specify which force the unit to be killed must be from. This is the main problem.

That condition does not exist

Ugh. OK, then you need to use the more complicated Kills to Cash system I believe. Read up on the article, and ask for help on anything you don't understand.

How many unit types are there on the map that are killable? It's easier if you only have one kind of unit, say terran marine, that can be killed.

Well, there's Dragoon, Archon, Hero Ghost, Marine and Probe.

EDIT: Screw it might as well use lives instead of goal kills.

5 killable units would be easy enough, but yeah, stick with simple stuff until you think you're ready for advanced stuff like kills to cash.

I will. I have, actually. I tried to make a respawn system for weapons but it got too messy so i just leave them there, so that everyone picks but once you die you lose all earned weapons.

uh, if you're not killing multiple units at the same time, use deaths and kill score to detect who killed what, then make the "cash" a dc instead of minerals.

As I said, Kills to Cash, but adding a DC instead of minerals...but he decided that was too complicated.

5 triggers isn't that complicated

Well i think the problem is in that it's 4 teams of 2 players each, in the map i'm making, and they could just kill each other to earn the kills, which would be quite lame. Besides, life system is much easier, and allows me to give bonuses to the ones with less chance of winning.

You could add a check for deaths of the other forces. This isn't perfect when an enemy dies the same time you're killing your teammate, but if you penalize teamkills they'll most probably lose more money than they are making through slips in the trigger system. Btw. Hyper triggers are a must for that.

Or just give each team different units. Then you know exactly who has been killed by whom.

I just realized that you can also check for deaths. If in a team a unit dies while no enemy team has made a kill you know this team has teamkilled. Maybe as an additional check for the above...

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Dec 23 2009, 5:46 am by NudeRaider.

A way of doing this could be to check kills and deaths. If a player has a death and his enemies have no kills, then reset that player's death counters and handle the incident (which is either a teamkill or him killing his own units). If a player has a death and at least one enemy has a kill, then his unit was killed by an opponent; reset the deaths and kills and handle the incident.

I use Current Player and Foes for checking, so I can use the same few triggers for all relevant players. I've attached a map to demonstrate.

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Thanks for reiterating what I said.
But there was a reason why I suggested enemy force instead of foes: You can just unally and your former teammate becomes a foe.
However I just realized that there is a simple workaround: Always ally everyone to its own force.