Can SEN appoint a fucking moderator for this section? Anyways, I'm sorry about your wrist Tazzy, get well soon!

Can SEN appoint a fucking moderator for this section?

Anyways, I'm sorry about your wrist Tazzy, get well soon!

I liked the first version best to be honest it looked neat and fun to play

I liked the first version best to be honest it looked neat and fun to play

I seriously wish there was at least one moderator, this would've ended a long time ago. Anyway, I eagerly await an update.

I seriously wish there was at least one moderator, this would've ended a long time ago.

Anyway, I eagerly await an update.

[quote=frazz]I seriously wish there was at least one moderator, this would've ended a long time ago. Anyway, I eagerly await an update.[/quote] Same here. Maybe it's because they don't have anyone they want to put in the position.

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I seriously wish there was at least one moderator, this would've ended a long time ago.

Anyway, I eagerly await an update.

Same here.

Maybe it's because they don't have anyone they want to put in the position.

[quote=TitanWing]Can SEN appoint a fucking moderator for this section? Anyways, I'm sorry about your wrist Tazzy, get well soon![/quote] Thanks, SEn will prob have more mods once its fully complete. (Hopefully) And Kellimus, I done my wist in at work..... >_< Sliped and laned on it.

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Can SEN appoint a fucking moderator for this section?

Anyways, I'm sorry about your wrist Tazzy, get well soon!

Thanks, SEn will prob have more mods once its fully complete. (Hopefully)

And Kellimus, I done my wist in at work..... >_< Sliped and laned on it.

[quote=TitanWing]Can SEN appoint a fucking moderator for this section?[/quote] Sorry, I was the only moderator at the time and wasn't handling reports due to the ... incidents with IP. Anyway, please stop flaming and keep discussion relevant to Tazzy's map.

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Can SEN appoint a fucking moderator for this section?

Sorry, I was the only moderator at the time and wasn't handling reports due to the ... incidents with IP.

Anyway, please stop flaming and keep discussion relevant to Tazzy's map.

[quote=Tazzy][quote=TitanWing]Can SEN appoint a fucking moderator for this section? Anyways, I'm sorry about your wrist Tazzy, get well soon![/quote] Thanks, SEn will prob have more mods once its fully complete. (Hopefully) And Kellimus, I done my wist in at work..... >_< Sliped and laned on it.[/quote] Thats no good mang. Get better soon :D Btw: Bring the old, original back mang. I'd play that over the new one you made, because honestly it looked more balanced then the one you have now.

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Can SEN appoint a fucking moderator for this section?

Anyways, I'm sorry about your wrist Tazzy, get well soon!

Thanks, SEn will prob have more mods once its fully complete. (Hopefully)

And Kellimus, I done my wist in at work..... >_< Sliped and laned on it.

Thats no good mang. Get better soon


Btw: Bring the old, original back mang. I'd play that over the new one you made, because honestly it looked more balanced then the one you have now.

I believe Tazzy already heard you (you know, one of the last five times). Tazzy, I would encourage you to switch things around a bit, I already offered my suggestions though.

I believe Tazzy already heard you (you know, one of the last five times).

Tazzy, I would encourage you to switch things around a bit, I already offered my suggestions though.

[quote=frazz]I believe Tazzy already heard you (you know, one of the last five times). Tazzy, I would encourage you to switch things around a bit, I already offered my suggestions though.[/quote] I like to repeat myself to my friends :)

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I believe Tazzy already heard you (you know, one of the last five times). Tazzy, I would encourage you to switch things around a bit, I already offered my suggestions though.

I like to repeat myself to my friends

Ive admired you, Kellimus for quite some time, but im sorry to say your wrong here. For proper melee in todays mapping, there are things to take into account and based on your advice you were recommending things that would have fit with older starcraft mapping but have since been abandoned on both pro and amateur levels. Titan, Kelli is how he is, i respect him but hes not too easy to get along with, try not to pay attention to him if your easily offended. Kind of like devilesk. :-_-: Id like to give input on the map but Titan as of thus far given the best advice as i see it.

Ive admired you, Kellimus for quite some time, but im sorry to say your wrong here. For proper melee in todays mapping, there are things to take into account and based on your advice you were recommending things that would have fit with older starcraft mapping but have since been abandoned on both pro and amateur levels.

Titan, Kelli is how he is, i respect him but hes not too easy to get along with, try not to pay attention to him if your easily offended. Kind of like devilesk.

Id like to give input on the map but Titan as of thus far given the best advice as i see it.

[quote=Excalibur]Ive admired you, Kellimus for quite some time, but im sorry to say your wrong here. For proper melee in todays mapping, there are things to take into account and based on your advice you were recommending things that would have fit with older starcraft mapping but have since been abandoned on both pro and amateur levels. Titan, Kelli is how he is, i respect him but hes not too easy to get along with, try not to pay attention to him if your easily offended. Kind of like devilesk. :-_-: Id like to give input on the map but Titan as of thus far given the best advice as i see it.[/quote] Well, thank you for your generous usage of telling me how it is :) And you are correct. I come from old-melee style of things cause I'm "old school", and that's the mentality that I had. I didn't take into consideration that times change, and so do melee maps (I figured that only the UMS were the ones that changed :-_-:) Again, I thank you Excalibur :)

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Ive admired you, Kellimus for quite some time, but im sorry to say your wrong here. For proper melee in todays mapping, there are things to take into account and based on your advice you were recommending things that would have fit with older starcraft mapping but have since been abandoned on both pro and amateur levels.

Titan, Kelli is how he is, i respect him but hes not too easy to get along with, try not to pay attention to him if your easily offended. Kind of like devilesk.

Id like to give input on the map but Titan as of thus far given the best advice as i see it.

Well, thank you for your generous usage of telling me how it is And you are correct. I come from old-melee style of things cause I'm "old school", and that's the mentality that I had.

I didn't take into consideration that times change, and so do melee maps (I figured that only the UMS were the ones that changed )

Again, I thank you Excalibur

Well my wrist is healing well, Im able to move it know, and use the mouse with it, insted of using my left hand for everything........ I'll get working on an update and hopefully bedazzel you all...... (Cough) Hopefully .

Well my wrist is healing well, Im able to move it know, and use the mouse with it, insted of using my left hand for everything........

I'll get working on an update and hopefully bedazzel you all...... (Cough) Hopefully .

Im not really good with EX Terrian, but i think the ramps are good enough? And as for the map itself i tried hard to make it somewhat pleasing.... I want this to be a playable map... lol Thoughts and hate mail again please. [IMG]http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x312/Taz0Snip/4PER1SCM.jpg[/IMG]

Im not really good with EX Terrian, but i think the ramps are good enough?

And as for the map itself i tried hard to make it somewhat pleasing.... I want this to be a playable map... lol

Thoughts and hate mail again please.

It looks nice man :)

It looks nice man

[quote=Tazzy]And as for the map itself i tried hard to make it somewhat pleasing.... I want this to be a playable map... lol [/quote] It was "playable" when you laid down a second start location. I do hope you aspire to something more than merely "playable". :P Anyway, it looks good... the natural expansions might be a little bit too easy to hold due to the nice choke at the bridge, though.

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And as for the map itself i tried hard to make it somewhat pleasing.... I want this to be a playable map... lol

It was "playable" when you laid down a second start location. I do hope you aspire to something more than merely "playable".

Anyway, it looks good... the natural expansions might be a little bit too easy to hold due to the nice choke at the bridge, though.

It does seem a little simple. I mean, it's very straightforward. I liked it better when there was a way for players vertical from each other to fight, and not just by air.

It does seem a little simple. I mean, it's very straightforward. I liked it better when there was a way for players vertical from each other to fight, and not just by air.

I'll agree with Moose, these expos are too easy to protect / not easy enough for ennemies to attack... You can't really lose the expo without losing your main at the same time (which brings back to say that you should just add more minerals to the main location instead ;P )

I'll agree with Moose, these expos are too easy to protect / not easy enough for ennemies to attack...

You can't really lose the expo without losing your main at the same time (which brings back to say that you should just add more minerals to the main location instead ;P )

What if i redo the terrian a little and move the bridge futher down? So its nearly more to main?

What if i redo the terrian a little and move the bridge futher down? So its nearly more to main?

[quote=Kellimus]It looks nice man :)[/quote] Jeez. You spend so much time on this topic arguing others and thats what you contribute when he finally comes out with a new edit? It's nice if one wants an unbalanced map, maybe you should learn that first before you try to give comments on melee maps. Tazzy, theres two pretty big issues here: 1) When there is a natural expansion (the first impulse expansion a player goes to for resources) is inside the main base, it is important that there is no gas. The long tight choke in combination with two gas geysers and all those minerals make a mean turtling base for terran. 2) Look at this map and imagine two players in the bottom positions (or both top positions), how is the game going to progress if there is no expansion for both players? Sure it makes it more competitive at that point, but it can also take out a lot of quality game play later on forcing one player to be stuck in a main base while the other just blocks the choke point. Suggestions: Regarding the expansions, take gas out of the in-base expansion, make a shorter chokepoint to bases, and maybe link those side islands to the middle where the big yellow circles are on my picture edit. Hopefully from there you can find a few places to add one more set of expansions? Good luck with the map.

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It looks nice man

Jeez. You spend so much time on this topic arguing others and thats what you contribute when he finally comes out with a new edit? It's nice if one wants an unbalanced map, maybe you should learn that first before you try to give comments on melee maps.

Tazzy, theres two pretty big issues here:
1) When there is a natural expansion (the first impulse expansion a player goes to for resources) is inside the main base, it is important that there is no gas. The long tight choke in combination with two gas geysers and all those minerals make a mean turtling base for terran.
2) Look at this map and imagine two players in the bottom positions (or both top positions), how is the game going to progress if there is no expansion for both players? Sure it makes it more competitive at that point, but it can also take out a lot of quality game play later on forcing one player to be stuck in a main base while the other just blocks the choke point.

Suggestions: Regarding the expansions, take gas out of the in-base expansion, make a shorter chokepoint to bases, and maybe link those side islands to the middle where the big yellow circles are on my picture edit. Hopefully from there you can find a few places to add one more set of expansions? Good luck with the map.

[IMG]http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x312/Taz0Snip/4PerfectRISE.jpg[/IMG] Any better?

Any better?