Sorry if this is in the wrong place, I didn't know where else it'd go.

So how do I make a clan?
What qualifies as a clan? Do I just need a bunch of people that are willing to wear a tag, or is it necessary that I have access to WC3 keys and a forum site specifically for that clan?

A clan essentially is a bunch of people that often play together and associate themselves with a particular name. That is the bare basics.

However, I would say that it is important to have a few other things.
1. A clan channel. The best for when you are starting out is an Op, such as Op Freaks.
2. A bot. This isn't essential but it's nice to have. If your Op is op Freaks, try make an account called Freaks. This means that whenever that bot hs in Op Freaks, it will have a ban hammer icon next to it's name, and it will talk in white text, and it has the power to kick and ban people from the channel. The bot is also useful for keeping track of people, and adds professionality to your channel.
3. A forum. This is probably the most important extra for clans with over 5 people. It gives you a place to discuss things without having to be on bnet all at the same time and encourages a sense of community.
4. A tag. This unites all the members under one banner amd advertises your clan. Not all clans have them though.

Thats all I can think of right now but I run a clan and am happy to answer any questions you have.

I'm not looking to make one, but I've always wondered how people make channels WITHOUT Op in the name. I never understood the whole Op thing.

I'm not 100% sure about this, but can channels usually have "Clan" in it, not "Op". Like Clan ABC. But if you don't have ten bots, and you can't make a clan channel, then the next best thing is an "Op" channel. Op channels give you power over kick and ban and such. Op ABC would give kicking and banning privileges to the username "ABC."

I don't know if you know this already, but join a channel called Op [You name here] and then you will be automatically designated.

You could probably create a clan without the Op, but then you wouldn't be designated.

People make clan channels when there are 10 or more WC3 clients with 10 seperate cdkeys that are invited and accepted. People can make clan channels by themselves if they have proxies that would support 6 or more and have 10 keys themselves.

Op used to be Clan until Warcraft 3 came out. Blizzard decided to change it and make Clan for WC3 players only. The disadvantage of Op is not being able to have more than 2 designations. They also can't make the channel private. With Clan channels, there are a limit of shamans, but people can still glitch it and make more than 10 designations. They can also make the channel private and close it.

Gah, I hate how SC players are treated as less important than WC3... it'll all change once SC2 gets here =P. Still, SC beats WC3 any day, I hope they don't make SC2 like WC3. Then again, it wouldn't matter much if they did, since I don't melee XD.

Ok, so how do I get a forum site? As in, how do I make the website and how do I put it up on the internet (I've made websites in a computer applications class but I was never taught how to actually put them on the internet where other comps can access them...)?

And how do I get a bot? Aren't bots all illegal?

oh wow
CHANNEL bot
why would they be illegal?

if you want to create a clan, just use iccup, it's better than b.net anyway
channels have "op" before the name because there is a bot in the channel.

lol SEN should get a clan channel, that'd be wicked.

So... how do I get one of these channel bots and how can I get a forum site without having to buy an expensive server?

There used to be Op SEN

but idk what happend to that

Technically a bot is a third party application that is banned by the EULA i believe, but heaps of people use em. To get a forum, google free forums. Try something like freeforums.org or ipbfree or forumotion.

Still exists.

Gettin a clan is EZ. Just find some people who will listen to you and hang out in a channel with them.

I have to get this out of my head so I might as well.

well I know im not contributing to this bot situation, or your question, but before you make a clan, make dam sure you will spend a lot of time with this clan. and when you recruit, get to know every single one of your members.

Ive never actually ran a clan except for my runescape days when i was like 12 (like 5 years ago), but when I joined white-shadow, a starcraft clan, I thought I would only be in this for 2 or 3 months, and I thought it would be no different from any other mediocre gaming clan that I have been in or has died in a couple weeks.

If you want this clan to be successful and last, you must get to know your members personally. That means talking to them on msn, aim, texting, or whatever other stuff you have. And give members a second chance and hold onto them, make dam sure they don't leave, do whatever you can to hold onto them, if your not good with words or cant think of anything in less then 5 seconds to persuade someones mind, then don't start your clan. If you don't do any of this stuff, I guaranteed that your clan will die out and it would be a total waste of your time.

I think that, and I could be wrong, that every member wants to be recognized by their leader, do not let your clan be run by ranks. There is one clan called GTX, or DBZGT, they rank up every time you recruit 2 people. if you do anything along those lines, you will guaranteed your clan to be a failure and again, a waste of your time.

And yeah of course you might want help, if anyone is willing to start a new clan with you, make sure they are mature enough to handle with situations, and most of all, make sure you like him.

I suck ass at clan knowledge, but the person who made ws on starcraft, ws-shadowblade can give you other pointers. Even though ws has pretty much declined to maybe 15 members active each day, every single person that was ever in the clan, except for maybe the few young ones, or the total assholes, talk to each other through msn, aim, and xbox, and some times, we get on starcraft maybe once a week to talk to shadowblade. I even text some of my clan friends because I got to know them so well. I live next to the college RIT, and a person I know in our clan goes there, and next year ill be going there and ill be actually sharing a dorm possibly.

The above paragraph, that is what each clan leader wants to accomplish apart from being the top at gaming. Well no one will probably want to read this, but I had to get it out

I don't agree with the no-ranks thing, as it adds structure and makes members feel like they are getting somewhere. However you only want a very simple rank system. 15 is the outside limit i'd say.

... texting? I'm a teenager, it's not like I can just walk into a store and buy a cell phone.

msn? aim? Don't have them, don't know how to get them, but I suppose it wouldn't be too hard... what's wrong with yahoo chat though (besides that it lags when you type)?

Er, persuade them about what? Joining the clan? How the heck am I supposed to figure out what to say to a total stranger to convince him to join my clan within 5 seconds?

ws has 15 active members a day, and that's small?!? That's HUGE... even at the height of it's activity, Clan Mp) was maybe at 7 or 8 active members a day I was in it... I thought clans were supposed to be small and reasonably well organized groups of people that all know eachother personally and work together for a common goal...

Well, When I was a D2 addict, I had a clan for about 3 years. It was always a small clan, shifting between 7-10 active members for the entire time I led it. But, like ws said, I was a leader and I paid attention to all my members and helped them out, and because of this they liked me and never wanted to leave my clan. When you're a leader, you have to constantly represent your clan as a respectable group of people. You have to be careful who you recruit because one asshole can ruin a small clan if they know how. (At least in d2 they could because of the way that game had an economy and a lot of trust between clan members with valuable items.)

How successful a clan is definitely depends on how good their leader is. Leaders have to make decisions when problems arise in their clan, know what to say to keep people in their clan, and overall give your members a reason to recognize you as their leader. If your members respect you, then they won't want to leave your clan.

And about ranks: My clan had 5 ranks:

Leader,
Co-Leader,
1339,
1337,
New Recruit

,but they didn't really mean anything because all my members were just people who chilled and played D2 together with an aR- in front of their name.

Hmm, ok...
Wait, I have to be the top at gaming to be a clan leader?!?
What's "1339" mean?

It's 1337+2.

Those were just suggestions, most people have msn now, I think u can find a download on msn.com and download msn messenger easily.

ok you need persuasion skills because what if someone goes against your judgment. What do you do if you don't have a way with words. No offense, but I don't think persuasion skills will come to you just like THAT, and it seems you still have a far ways to go. Given enough time, anyone can come up with some saying in under 30 minutes to persuade someone, but to do it fast and counter someone with an excellent choice of words just like that, is a skill that will get you far with anywhere you go.

In real life, this skill would mix in with speaking skills

This I agree and some part I disagree as you miss context it. 15 members a DAY, lets say that probably 7 members are active at one time, and 3 another time. 4 another time. Your clan can be big, but that makes more strain and time on the leaders.

And working together for a common goal? what goal would you really want to achieve? But getting to know each other is essential. Yeah some members wont like others, there will always be outcasts, but you still have to talk to them all. So choose wisely who you want to recruit.

and to your recent question here is what shadowblade said:
At the top of gaming? No you don't have to be. We will still love you. ws, this clan is for having fun and meeting new people, competitive gaming is just a secondary

you have to have some ranks. In ws, there are 4 ranks.
Shade - New recruits
White-shade - Regular Members
Shadow - Administrators
White-Shadow - The leader

when you first join, you start off as a shade for a couple months or so, and then you move onto white-shade, where you become a trusted member. and shadows, in our clan theres only 3 or 4 shadows. and then the leader. So in response to what you said, I agree with you

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 15 2009, 7:56 pm by Chubacca.