No LAN in SC2
Post #1
mikelat
Jun 29 2009, 5:19 pm
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In a recent interview somewhere, they confirmed no plans for LAN http://www.incgamers.com/News/17129/NoLANInStarCraftIIConfirmed . Anyways, my reply on battle.net forums:
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=18031189466&postId=180295281180&sid=3000#0 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #2
Excalibur
Jun 29 2009, 6:04 pm
Post #3
UnholyUrine
Jun 29 2009, 6:12 pm
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I choose you!.. um.. if that's alright with you...
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Grammar mistake at the last sentence.. Should've .. should HAVE .. not of
Back on Topic... I am not too negative against the removal of LAN gaming, as it doesn't directly affect me. But I see no point in removing it, and I'll have to agree that Blizzard will screw up Internet Cafes if they have to buy an SC2 copy for each computer.. Maybe that's what they're trying to pull? However.. if Battle.net 2 requires a subscription fee. I will not buy sc2 for the sake of it. At least not until the price drops dramatically... Lastly... what does activision has to do with all this? |
Post #4
ForTheSwarm
Jun 29 2009, 6:19 pm
Post #5
Forsaken Archer
Jun 29 2009, 8:56 pm
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I'm not personally affected too much, but this seems like a feature that should be so simple to include that cutting it out just seems stupid. The only logical explanation would be to fight piracy and taking actions like drm or cutting out lan only pisses off legit customers while only adding a bit of hassle to pirates. I'm sure a lan hack will appear soon enough if it's not included, or at the least, emulated b.net servers.
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Post #7
Neki
Jun 29 2009, 10:57 pm
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morals are made up, just like unicorns and rainbows.
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It's a weird decision really, would it really take a lot of programming to include a LAN mode?
Edit: Wow Yoshi, they are really giving you alot of crap. They have even resorted to calling you some cry baby with a crappy internet connection who can't afford to buy games. Not so mature over there. This post was edited 1 time, last edit by Ultimo: Jun 30 2009, 2:44 am. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #8
mikelat
Jun 29 2009, 11:34 pm
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It'll hurt legit users mostly. LANs will be that much harder to do, but lan hacks will probably get bundled with the pirate versions. So whats the point, really.
Well I'm guessing they're planning on having a subscription for Battle.net 2.0, its why they're probably heavily focusing into it. They didn't deny doing subscription fees, but they flat out denied doing LAN. The only reason for doing that, is yeah, to have people pay subscription fees and not give them any possible way around it. If I wanted to play with my friends and I was presented with the choice of paying 10 bucks a month to blizzards shareholders through doing it through some convent service, or paying nothing and installing some virtual lan software, you can guess what a good part of the SC2 population would do. I pretty much guessed after a few replies what kind of fanbase blizzard has now attracted. It's disappointing to say the least that blizzards fanbase no longer cares if they're getting screwed out of major game components, that's one fanbase I won't be a part of. If it's as bad as I fear then that'll be yet another developer that pumps out corporate crap (going the way of Epic, Bungie, Maxis, Microsoft Games, EA, Lucasarts, etc). I was hoping blizzard was somewhat immune but apparently not. I'll reserve my full judgment for when SC2 gets released, but my hopes aren't too high, as usually games that come out from good developers I'm usually excited, but for SC2 I'm expecting disappointment. The real question is, if SC2 really does suck that hard, what'll happen to mapping community. Warcraft 3 wasn't blessed with the talented map makers the SC community had, and the maps were not nearly as fun, the same could easily go for SC2. Let's just hope they have some sense to reverse any cash cow decisions they may have made and that I'm completely wrong when the game gets released. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #9
l)ark_ssj9kevin
Jun 29 2009, 11:40 pm
Post #10
Neki
Jun 30 2009, 2:49 am
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morals are made up, just like unicorns and rainbows.
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A subscription for battle.net would be so lame though. I think they'd be losing a lot of customers by pulling crap like that, but who knows, I think people really love SCII. It's bad enough already with the separate campaigns. Comon Blizzard! Pull through and do the good thing for gamers!
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Post #15
ClansAreForGays
Jun 30 2009, 5:05 pm
Post #16
DevliN
Jun 30 2009, 5:12 pm
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SOMETHING STATUS GO
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I can't tell you how many times I've had friends over to play StarCraft LAN, all using my copy of StarCraft. This is ridiculous.
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Post #17
Forsaken Archer
Jun 30 2009, 8:57 pm
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I do believe it was confirmed that you will be able to fully use SC2 on b.net without subscriptions. Some blizz rep said something like "customer goes to retail, they will get a fully functional game without having to pay subscriptions".
However, by not saying there will be no subscriptions what so ever, I'm positive a subscription based account will be enhanced in multiple ways. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I can not be ignored...
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Post #18
mikelat
Jun 30 2009, 10:38 pm
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I read that recently too. I was extremely suspicious due to the fact they flat out denied the major stuff like LAN play, and then other major stuff like subscriptions they said "no comment", which I took as being on the table. It still is on the table but a few employees said that it's free out of the box. There might be however a tiered system, they did that for hellgate london and that sucked.
Somehow though, I have a feeling that ever since they've had a taste of the pot of gold at the end of the world of warcraft rainbow that they're going to pull something. SC is one of their biggest franchises, they managed to make warcraft into a bottomless moneypit, you can only bet they're wondering how they can justify it with SC. This announcement came just after the weekend, where I had just had a BBQ and an SC lan at my place with a good number of people, but only 4 people could play on my network at a time, because battle.net lags like hell when I have more than 4 people attempting to play at one time, and I can't run a SC LAN for some reason (I used to be able to, but new lans don't work for some reason), the other computers never pick it up. I didn't have enough time to try setting up virtual lans or whatever. So I can't get a decade old game working on my lan. Right after all these problems I was having getting good SC games going and the impossibility of getting all 8 machines to play at once, I read about the lack of LAN, protest against it, and the immediate response from battle.net is that I'm a worthless pirate because nobody does lans and apparently battle.net works fine. This is the very definition of irony. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #19
UnholyUrine
Jun 30 2009, 10:47 pm
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I choose you!.. um.. if that's alright with you...
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This may be of interest to you?
http://www.starcraft2forum.org/forums/showthread.php?p=299839#post299839 |
Post #20
mikelat
Jun 30 2009, 11:14 pm
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That would. The first part he doesn't actually give any reason for removing LAN at all, it's mostly marketing talk. The parts which I find interesting are:
I remember reading an interview a while back where blizzard proudly stated how strong their fanbase was and how they don't alter games based upon what the pirates want, which makes their games better and their fanbase bigger. Boy, times sure do change when you merge with activision. Besides. With a high profile release such as SC2, they're going to find ways around this. Some type of LAN emulation, Battle.net emulation, etc. So basically, its not the pirates that get hurt, its the legitimate users that do. They figured out how to make everybody play on a network and have less than 0 ping? Really? Somebody suggested this: If blizzard is so uppity about piracy, they should at least allow this. It'd be less convenient than lan, but it's better than no lan. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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