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Good idea for obama?
Nov 18 2008, 11:22 pm
By: ToA  

Nov 18 2008, 11:22 pm ToA Post #1

Que Sera, Sera.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ChangeDotGov

weekly address from him, good in your opinion?




Nov 18 2008, 11:37 pm KrayZee Post #2



Of course that's good. He's not the first President to do that and he did it without internet.



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Nov 19 2008, 2:00 am Moose Post #3

We live in a society.

In my opinion, the flaunting of change has become obnoxious already. change.gov is just making it silly now.




Nov 19 2008, 2:15 am Centreri Post #4

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Yep. It's pretty hilarious. Next up, Change Fries, Change Day, etc.

The website itself is nice, but the domain... that's pretty retarded. Trying to flaunt he before he has power... etc. Plus, how a 'clean energy future' would help in stablization the economy is beyond me. I'd hoped we'd finished with election bullshit when the election ended.

And the Barack video, it looked... again, like election bullshit. But this time, it's like he's reading the script written behind the camera.



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Nov 19 2008, 2:18 am Kaias Post #5



Obama just looks so weak. Maybe it's just his skinny neck, but every time I look at him, he seems weak to me.

We'll see.
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I'd hoped we'd finished with election bullshit when the election ended.
Something I had also looked forward to.



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Nov 19 2008, 2:21 am Centreri Post #6

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I mean... come on! 2 million jobs with roads, 5 million with free energy, giving world-class education... it's like he thinks congress-people have money coming out of their rear ends. I hope he's just lying, and doesn't really believe that what he's saying is possible... The only real way to get enough money is borrow it, and it seems like $11,000,000,000 debt isn't enough. MOAR! MOAR!



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Nov 19 2008, 2:42 am dumbducky Post #7



You never once complained about his ridiculous election promises before he got elected, why now?



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Nov 19 2008, 2:56 am Centreri Post #8

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It's to be expected during the election. American elections are a time of lies and general bullshit. Usually, however, what the candidates say is closer to what they are then the exact opposite of what they are, so it's possible to choose the one you like based on what they say. Obama won that contest.



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Nov 19 2008, 3:46 am WoAHorde Post #9



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energy future' would help in stablization the economy is beyond me

He's suggesting creating new jobs in alternative energy economy to fulfil a new energy independent market. Energy plants need architects and engineers to build, and scientists and tacticians to maintain; ethanol and other biodiesels need farmers to grow; new blue-collar and white-collar jobs in the energy department.



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Nov 19 2008, 5:05 am ToA Post #10

Que Sera, Sera.

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Of course that's good. He's not the first President to do that and he did it without internet.

but how many people watch youtube?




Nov 19 2008, 9:01 pm BlueWolf Post #11



Maybe he's more fit to lead a program like LEED(Even though he is not in construction) instead of the president. McCain himself said that he would keep Obama around for his ideas to change the economy. The reason why so many young adults went to go vote, because they were already concerned about the economy. We'll see what happens though. He better not concentrate too hard on the pollution and its effects. Isn't that what Al Gore (or however you spell it) was running for too? whoever has that channel that displays people whom already live through eco friendly ways.



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Nov 19 2008, 9:09 pm dumbducky Post #12



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energy future' would help in stablization the economy is beyond me

He's suggesting creating new jobs in alternative energy economy to fulfil a new energy independent market. Energy plants need architects and engineers to build, and scientists and tacticians to maintain; ethanol and other biodiesels need farmers to grow; new blue-collar and white-collar jobs in the energy department.
He's creating a market that will serve as a drain on the economy. Unless the industry can stand on its own without government subsidies, then it justs drains taxpayer money, or in this case, foreign loans. The market would have already created an alternative energy industry. In reality, oil and other fossil fuels remain the most efficient energy sources.



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Nov 19 2008, 9:17 pm BlueWolf Post #13



Gas prices will go lower. People will use their Hummers again, and buy the big trucks, and we'll be stuck in a cycle. That's until a new energy is used.



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Nov 19 2008, 10:17 pm Centreri Post #14

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He's suggesting creating new jobs in alternative energy economy to fulfil a new energy independent market. Energy plants need architects and engineers to build, and scientists and tacticians to maintain; ethanol and other biodiesels need farmers to grow; new blue-collar and white-collar jobs in the energy department.
Sure. But that's not stabilization of the economy. It's good for the economy, but it's not stabilized. The problem isn't that the number of unemployed people is fluctuating from 1% to 15% - it's a problem in a complete other sector. Banking.
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He's creating a market that will serve as a drain on the economy. Unless the industry can stand on its own without government subsidies, then it justs drains taxpayer money, or in this case, foreign loans. The market would have already created an alternative energy industry. In reality, oil and other fossil fuels remain the most efficient energy sources.
Essentially correct. I like to view government as a business with perks, (or, if you will, a business as a government without them), however, so I completely support the government participating economically. Not in the energy sector when the economy is failing this badly, though.



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Nov 22 2008, 7:12 pm BeDazed Post #15



Did you know that the American economy would literally fall apart with shortages in Energy?



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Nov 22 2008, 8:24 pm Dapperdan Post #16



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Nov 22 2008, 9:24 pm Centreri Post #17

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Did you know that the American economy would literally fall apart with shortages in Energy?
Why would there be a shortage in energy? Oil prices drop in times of trouble. They dropped ~2.5x since July. Energy isn't a problem.
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Am I doing well? :wtfage:



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Nov 22 2008, 10:35 pm dumbducky Post #18



Also, oil served as a catalyst for the economy when it was $140 in July. Now that the economy is so bad, energy use when way down and supply and demand is always right.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Nov 23 2008, 2:13 am by A_of-s_t.



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