Help!
May 15 2008, 6:42 pm
By: Madroc  

May 15 2008, 6:42 pm Madroc Post #1



OK so I'm in extra editor and I'm trying to add a sound while I have no more strings left to use (I didn't know that sounds required strings :><: ). Then I saved (ahhh!!!) and whenever I open up sounds, it crashes Xtra Editor. :crazy:

I can open up the map in StarForge but I can't open it up at all in SCMdraft.

How can I fix this! :-( THanks :)



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May 15 2008, 7:38 pm NudeRaider Post #2

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

I know you want a way to fix it. But I'll play smart-ass before and tell you that you should avoid that problem in the first place.
There is no need to use every last string. Try to stay at least 10 strings away from the max and make backups often (scmdraft does that automatically).

If you had used scmdraft I would've told you to restore to a older version as its auto-backup database is very detailed. But in your case there's little you can do unless you find some .chk expert that is willing to try and repair your map.

Otherwise you can try to remove a few strings with starforge. After it might be repaired




May 15 2008, 8:05 pm Madroc Post #3



Ok well yeah I learned my lesson... Save backups every 5 minutes.....
I tryed to mess around with strings and stuff with StarForge, but nothing worked.

Thank god I saved a backup a few days ago and that the triggers are still viewable in the screwed up version so I can compare. I'll totally use SCMdraft in the future.

Thanks as always raider. :(

Quote from NudeRaider
I know you want a way to fix it. But I'll play smart-ass before and tell you that you should avoid that problem in the first place.
There is no need to use every last string. Try to stay at least 10 strings away from the max and make backups often (scmdraft does that automatically).

If you had used scmdraft I would've told you to restore to a older version as its auto-backup database is very detailed. But in your case there's little you can do unless you find some .chk expert that is willing to try and repair your map.

Otherwise you can try to remove a few strings with starforge. After it might be repaired




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May 15 2008, 9:19 pm Vi3t-X Post #4



Is it so hard? Open the map up in SCMDraft. It IGNORES string limits :P



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May 15 2008, 9:32 pm Madroc Post #5



Quote from Madroc
I can open up the map in StarForge but I can't open it up at all in SCMdraft.

Quote from Vi3t-X
Is it so hard? Open the map up in SCMDraft. It IGNORES string limits :P

:bleh: indeed :D



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May 15 2008, 9:52 pm NudeRaider Post #6

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

Quote from Vi3t-X
Is it so hard? Open the map up in SCMDraft. It IGNORES string limits :P
Obviously it is:
Quote from Madroc
I can open up the map in StarForge but I can't open it up at all in SCMdraft.

Btw. even with scmdraft it isn't safe to use more strings. The program is designed for it but many people had problems lately when going over the max string count.




May 15 2008, 10:00 pm Falkoner Post #7



Uh. Why can't you use SCM Draft? Can we get a better explanation on that? Also, how did you use up all your strings, I suspect a comment-whore, so you could easily just delete a few comments and get back below the limit.



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May 16 2008, 12:44 am Madroc Post #8



Quote from Falkoner
Uh. Why can't you use SCM Draft? Can we get a better explanation on that? Also, how did you use up all your strings, I suspect a comment-whore, so you could easily just delete a few comments and get back below the limit.
Whenever I open up my map with SCM draft, it says : Something bad happened. Save a Diagonostic file? [Yes] [No] and if I click either, it crashes. This has happened ever since I accidentally made one more string than I should have (and then later deleted some random location and it got better except I can't open with SCMdraft) (This was before what happened above).
Yeah I have around 240 comments... they help so much in organization. I don't use them on the triggers that I probably won't ever change again. Like there are no comments on P 1-4 or 8 but on 5-7 there are around 80 for each....I just find myself deleting a few every time I need a new location or something (probably not the best strategy :lol: ).
The other strings are around 100 Switches (this was before I realized you could use death counts for these things), around 100 I guess for text messages (again before I realized about death counts), around 200-300 for locations, I renamed every unit except for like 20 (this includes like doors and stuff for death counts), and maybe 75 for everything else, and I honestly don't know where everything else came from, but I have 1023 strings total currently Maybe some of them are sounds (MAYBE fifty) because I was messing around with that sound application where you get no-space sounds and also using some sounds of my own and switching between x-tra for triggers and starforge for terrain.. oh it's a mess. I wish I had just started out with SCMdraft to begin with. (EDIT oh wait that pretty much DOES add up to 1023.)

Does this give you any ideas about what's wrong and/or how I can fix it? It's not huge that I fix it anymore now that I am being smart and backup saving every 10 minutes, but I am still curious.

Thanks you guys this map would definitely not have happened if it wasn't for you. :D :)



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May 16 2008, 12:46 am Falkoner Post #9



Well, try moving your backup DB somewhere else and see if it crashes, that may have been corrupted, and also try to stay a bit more than 1 below the string limit, it's definitely more handy..



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May 16 2008, 12:49 am Madroc Post #10



Quote from Falkoner
Well, try moving your backup DB somewhere else and see if it crashes, that may have been corrupted, and also try to stay a bit more than 1 below the string limit, it's definitely more handy..

What's a backup DB?



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May 16 2008, 12:58 am lolzzzzzzzz Post #11



Go to your SCMDraft folder, the one where you installed into your computer and either:

1-Move the Backup file

2-Delete the Backup file

If you're going to delete it, make sure you don't have anything in tehre that you might want to reuse. I know your problem very well, it occured to me for 1 week straight and after I was told to either delete or mvoe the Backup file, I don't have the problem anymore.



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May 16 2008, 1:07 am Madroc Post #12



Quote from lolzzzzzzzz
Go to your SCMDraft folder, the one where you installed into your computer and either:

1-Move the Backup file

2-Delete the Backup file

If you're going to delete it, make sure you don't have anything in tehre that you might want to reuse. I know your problem very well, it occured to me for 1 week straight and after I was told to either delete or mvoe the Backup file, I don't have the problem anymore.
Hmm I'm not sure where you're going with this... but I'll try it.



OK I moved the backup file to the desktop but it still does the same thing.



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May 16 2008, 1:13 am lolzzzzzzzz Post #13



For me, I found out that my Backup.DS file was corrupted so I deleted it and I could finally open my old map that had the 'Something very bad happened' bug (SVBH) in it.

If moving doesn't help than try deleting it, but please, make sure you don't have anything you may want to reuse in there because once you delete it, it's gone.

The backup file is just backups saved everytime you save your map, in case bugs or errors happen. If there is a problem with saving it could likely have something to do with the backup file, at least for my problems involving the SVBH bug.



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May 16 2008, 1:21 am Madroc Post #14



Quote from lolzzzzzzzz
For me, I found out that my Backup.DS file was corrupted so I deleted it and I could finally open my old map that had the 'Something very bad happened' bug (SVBH) in it.

If moving doesn't help than try deleting it, but please, make sure you don't have anything you may want to reuse in there because once you delete it, it's gone.

The backup file is just backups saved everytime you save your map, in case bugs or errors happen. If there is a problem with saving it could likely have something to do with the backup file, at least for my problems involving the SVBH bug.
Ok well I thought it might have been stubborn or something so I took your advice, stuck the DB in the recycling can and EMPTIED it so it would have no possible way of getting to it, mwahahah. It still is having a temper tantrum, though, so I guess it didn't help. Oh and you needn't worry about me having anything I need in the DB cuz Ive only played around with it for about 15 minutes so far :lol:

Maybe we are talking about different things, I'm not getting the SVBH message, I'm getting an SBH so apparently it doesn't seem to think it's as bad as it did when you had your problems.



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May 16 2008, 1:40 am lolzzzzzzzz Post #15



Hmm, I'm pretty sure it's the "Something bad happened. Would you like to save a diagnostic file?" that is occuring to you and occured to me 2 weeks ago (you can even check the second page with my rants ^^ )

The backup file deleting didn't help? Man, you're having even more bugs than I had... try this:

Create a new folder and copy-paste your map with the problem in there. At the same time, delete the Backup.DS file. This solved my SBH problem (my bad, there wasn't any very in between the SBH lol). If you're still having problems.... it must be something I still haven't experienced...



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May 16 2008, 1:51 am Vi3t-X Post #16



Uhg. Open up SCMDraft and make a random map. Save and test. Report problems (if any).



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May 16 2008, 2:05 am Madroc Post #17



Quote from lolzzzzzzzz
Hmm, I'm pretty sure it's the "Something bad happened. Would you like to save a diagnostic file?" that is occuring to you and occured to me 2 weeks ago (you can even check the second page with my rants ^^ )

The backup file deleting didn't help? Man, you're having even more bugs than I had... try this:

Create a new folder and copy-paste your map with the problem in there. At the same time, delete the Backup.DS file. This solved my SBH problem (my bad, there wasn't any very in between the SBH lol). If you're still having problems.... it must be something I still haven't experienced...

Didn't work.

Quote from Vi3t-X
Uhg. Open up SCMDraft and make a random map. Save and test. Report problems (if any).

No problems.

Wow this is sort of sad, my first 20 minutes with scmdraft and something bad happens. I can't wait to get back to x-tra even that isn't this bad :D jk it's terrible



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May 16 2008, 2:56 am Vi3t-X Post #18



Congratulations. Your map is destroyed. Port as much of the map over as possible and start a fresh map :P



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May 16 2008, 3:52 am Falkoner Post #19



Yeah, don't mess with the string limit, it will mess you back. >:(



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May 16 2008, 4:46 am Madroc Post #20



Quote from Vi3t-X
Congratulations. Your map is destroyed. Port as much of the map over as possible and start a fresh map :P

Lol :lol: Thank goodness that is not the case. It has taken me a long time, as I'm sure you can imagine with 1023 strings... No I was smart enough to make a save a few days ago, it'll just take me a while to get back to that point.

Hey thank you all again for your efforts if this is indeed the case. As a new member I'll try my best to contribute to this nice little community in return.



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