Temple Siege Strategy and Replays
Post #1
Jack[RCDF
Aug 28 2011, 7:20 am
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Post your TS replays and strategies here!
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Post #2
Jack[RCDF
Aug 28 2011, 8:28 am
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Jack's Cwazy cwazy mutant build:
(works best with a stunner on your team) First civ into minerals. Get attack upgrades, and rush top. Nowadays people often ignore top for mid, so while an ally stalls mid you cap top. Civ from capping goes to minerals, and you continue to get attack upgrades. Run mid and help out with stalling and/or capping; feed as possible. Soon after you have 6 attack upgrades, you'll get another civ; don't put this on minerals, save it for level 2. Keep using minerals for attack upgrades, and try for early kills. Don't waste your lives though, you'll have plenty of kills later on. Once you have three civs get your second spell. Only use this when your stunner stuns someone. Night time is gank time, you and your stunner should be out picking up a kill or two at night. Next 4-5 (depending on how much you use your l2's and l1's) civs go to mana. After getting 140-160 max mana, you'll be going hitpoints and armour. By the time marines pop you should have about 12 armour and anywhere from 12-17 attack upgrades (and don't forget attack speed for mutants; 120 mana on new versions). Keep going hitpoints till you're at around 2200 max hp; you should be near unkillable at this point and should have picked up a few kills along the way. Once the next night (third or fourth night depending on how well you fed) starts it's base breaking time. Time your runs to go with your spawn, or just run in regardless. L2 on the cannons from the top right of the cannon for best effect. You should pick up a couple cannons each time, then go back and heal. The enemy will notice and try stop you; your team mates should be around to help and you can tank and run off with that nice 2200 HP and 12-19 armour (more than 19 is useless). Continue till either everyone's dead or you've killed their temple. While not as simple as lurkers, and while seeming more dangerous, this build is extremely powerful as your survivability against stuns is much better than standard lurker builds. Your DPS is also higher, and you use less mana. The downside is that heroes like mech and assassin are nigh impossible to kill with this style, whereas lurkers are more powerful against those heroes. However, late game you're very powerful and can base break much quicker than lurkers; if you have a stun you can pick up kills and elims along the way. Comments and critique welcome. I'll try post a Let's Play of this on youtube sometime. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Red classic. I have mostly left SEN except for the Temple Siege 2 forum (hidden to most of you). I am available via PM still, and Skype as JackRCDF. If it is important to you, you will find a way. Otherwise, you will find an excuse. -Unknown Magnificent! Perhaps you shouldn't be on SEN as much, too... Better than the iPad! |
Post #3
ClansAreForGays
Aug 28 2011, 1:59 pm
Post #4
Sacrieur
Aug 28 2011, 11:35 pm
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Alchemist
Unit: Fenix (Dragoon) HP: 3900 SP: 150 Atk: 37 + 6 (Explosive) Size: Large Armor: 0 L1 (Alkahest Elixer): Sets shield points to maximum for all units owned by alchemist. -1 second on stun counter. L2 (Gold Transmutation): Turns a nearby allied spawn into +15 minerals. +4 minerals if used away from spawn. L3 (Homonculus): Summons two Homunculi (max 8). Homunculus Unit: Zealot HP: 100 SP: 150 Atk: 30 + 2 (Normal) Size: Small Armor: 5 L4 (Philosopher's Stone): Has a variety of effects, depending on current minerals. 0 - 49: +70 minerals. 50 - 99: +100 minerals to all allied heroes. 100: level up. 101 - 199: next cast spell for each enemy hero instead summons three infested terrans. 200: sets enemy temple HP to 50%. 200+: Grants infinite mana for a short time, drains minerals. --- Strengths The ability to generate money from mana is always an invaluable ability, and can put a definite punch in physical stats and generate nice pocket change to spend on sims/defenses. This causes exponential growth that becomes obscenely powerful at later levels, when he has the mana to support a ludicrous income. L1 and L3 also add a decent variety, with respectable synergy. His dynamic L4 is quite powerful and flexible, good Alchemists are known to stack level 4 L4s to increase potency and make the spell-reliant suffer. Late game, his level 2 L4 can give allies a strong money boost, and can even the playing field against stronger opponents. He has a strong attack, albeit explosive. His massive upgrades can wreck havoc on larger units; it's not uncommon for a late game alchemist to reach 25 - 30 upgrades with only a handful of sims, which may even be difficult for low HP small units to handle. He can often boast a strong defense limited only by his mana. Every 25 mana increment can be thought of as an extra 150 HP. With 450 mana, an Alchemist can be considered to have an extra 2700 HP. Weaknesses Alchemist's slow start can make it difficult to acquire the momentum to gain a much needed early game edge. Without a strong attack and low mana, he is vulnerable to stuns and most battle-oriented units that are faster. A player must take care not to die early on, even if it means sacrificing middle. He'll need a strong battle unit to back him up. His shields, while granting a nifty mana to HP conversion, take 100% from all attacks, and can be completely bypassed by an attack with extremely high DPS. Because of his heavy reliance on mana, HP is only upgraded after mana and spells have been maxed, which can leave him at a fragile 720 HP. In addition, an inability to manual through a stun renders him susceptible, even late game. Alchemist's L3 is quite a liability, and offers enemies a juicy exp boost. Mistakes during mid-game with L3 can be extremely costly. His L4, also, is a tricky spell. Attaining level 3 or 5 is quite difficult, although not entirely impossible. Maintaining a consistent level 4 L4 is also difficult when playing against heroes that enjoy spamming spells or have the mana to perform regular checks to help ensure safety. This post was edited 3 times, last edit by Sacrieur: Aug 30 2011, 2:22 pm. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() × ÷ ± · ∫ ƒ | ⅛ ¼ ⅓ ⅜ ½ ⅝ ⅔ ¾ ⅞ | π φ ∞ | ≡ ≈ ≥ ≤ ∴ ¬ ∩ Ø | √ ª ⁿ º ¹ ² ³ | ✓ ✗ | א
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Post #5
ClansAreForGays
Aug 30 2011, 1:52 am
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ClansAreForGays
Aug 30 2011, 4:21 am
Post #11
Mini Moose 2707
Aug 31 2011, 1:09 am
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Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt.
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And to imagine the percentage of things I wanted to change in TS eventually!
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Post #13
Sacrieur
Sep 12 2011, 3:52 pm
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HP upgrades are doubly important against mech, archer, or power alchemist. Anything that can blast you hard from a good range. One of my favorite things to do is armor + HP war and tank mutant's l2. Always throws people for a loop. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() × ÷ ± · ∫ ƒ | ⅛ ¼ ⅓ ⅜ ½ ⅝ ⅔ ¾ ⅞ | π φ ∞ | ≡ ≈ ≥ ≤ ∴ ¬ ∩ Ø | √ ª ⁿ º ¹ ² ³ | ✓ ✗ | א
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Post #14
Jack[RCDF
Nov 8 2011, 10:08 am
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Remade part 2 of temple siege basics. Also, I may be doing some commentaries on replays soon; if you have any amazing games post them and I may choose them to commentate on. K IM OFF AGAIN ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Red classic. I have mostly left SEN except for the Temple Siege 2 forum (hidden to most of you). I am available via PM still, and Skype as JackRCDF. If it is important to you, you will find a way. Otherwise, you will find an excuse. -Unknown Magnificent! Perhaps you shouldn't be on SEN as much, too... Better than the iPad! |
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