Almost all religion is harmful to the critical thinking skills and even the identity of a child, and is a huge waste of time and money for adults, religion means lost productivity for society, and lost leisure time for individuals, spent feeling guilty and subservient. This is real harm, I singled out fundamentalism because of the threat of crusades and jihad. That is the start religion's negative influence on the goals of a community, and the self determination of children. If you think want to define every belief with any negative side effect as fundamentalist, along with the people that hold those beliefs, go right ahead, but that definition would include a vast number of people.
Religion is what gives people morals, and society doesn't function half as well without any good morals.
All I said is that there are parts of non fundamentalist religion that are harmful, justifying my earlier choice of words. I did not say it in the first place because it is easily misinterpreted, as you have just shown.
Yes, in a perfect world where everyone chooses to do good of their own will, then logically, religion is wasting time, but for one, this is not a perfect world, and two, whether or not it logically makes sense, there is a god.
Even though you're arguing against something that wasn't even said, I feel to the need to point out that your example doesn't even relate. You would be trying to make generalizations about atheists based off things they have done in parts of their life that have nothing to do with their choice not to believe in a god. Anti's examples were actually relating things people do in relation to their religion. What you did would be like me saying, "I know this one doctor who was a real sarcastic asshole when I met him at the bar. (ad nauseum) Based off these observations, can I say that doctoring in general is unhealthy and harmful?"
Correct. It doesn't make any sense. You're trying to say that people shouldn't make opinions based off just their own selective experiences by saying what you said, as if Anti was doing that. In turn, you ended up saying something completely and totally flawed in an entirely different way as well. I think I finally articulated this the way I wanted.
Is being doctors the common factor in all these people with screwed up lives? No, so his examples do make sense.
Free will is to a large extent an illusion. We are shaped by our environment fare more than most of us care to admit. The answer you get to the question will depend largely on the beliefs of the parents, the more crazy the belief, the more likely it is to be passed on with defense mechanisms intact.
And yet you can still change what happens to you, it's not like it is set in stone, even if it is more difficult to change for some people.
Wheres scientific proof of your claims?
There is none, it's called faith, something you have to find for yourself, not from 'scientists'
Oh wait, I forgot. This forum is full of kids, thats right.
You're the one choosing to come to a forum for a game meant for kids, if you want adult forums, maybe choosing a gaming forum was a bad idea.
None.