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[2014-8-26. : 6:34 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Oh I think I get what's going on. You were just reading an article about it ;o [2014-8-26. : 6:25 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- A bunch of stuff is happening and dramatic music is playing and whatever, but you don't care because you have no idea who anybody is or why they are doing what it is they do. [2014-8-26. : 6:24 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- My friends were watching it once, but it was in the middle of a season or whatever so I got bored because it was like walking in on a movie you've never seen halfway through. [2014-8-26. : 5:09 am]  Fire_Kame -- does jofferey somewhere in the book strangle a horse with two fingers? O.o [2014-8-26. : 5:08 am] Fire_Kame -- the excerpts in the article go above and beyond it. I have trouble believing someone would write a horse being placed on a satchel regardless of how little they knew about them. clickhole is a site that I can't tell if it's trying to be funny or not. And having never read the books I thought someone here might have. [2014-8-26. : 4:26 am] Dem0n -- What difference does it make if he's never seen a horse? It's not very hard to write about them without seeing them ;o [2014-8-26. : 4:04 am] Fire_Kame -- ok is out true george rr martin head never seen a horse when he started writing or is clickhole terribly written satire? [2014-8-26. : 3:43 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- And if they did overlook the BA, I probably would've had to've sent it in right away and not a week later  [2014-8-26. : 3:35 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Well that was a somewhat insightful conversation. xD I still probably won't apply for that position (GED vs. requested BA ... feels a bit underqualified), but at least I'm a bit more aware of examples of applicable skills. [2014-8-26. : 3:31 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- And the other bit can just be an example of "If the situation requires it, I am able to take charge!" (unlike my friend who worked in the same kitchen who would have panic attacks and burn everything when he was put in charge ) [2014-8-26. : 3:29 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- The teamwork was for almost a year (working in a kitchen), that other bit was all that week was. [2014-8-26. : 3:27 am] Moose -- Oh, a week of teamwork and supervisory experience. I mean, you were right to quit, but good luck leveraging that experience. [2014-8-26. : 3:27 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- But if I do somehow switch to this other position at my job then I will no longer be able to boast about having the laziest 3-day-a-week job in the world where all I do is watch youtube videos and stare out the window. [2014-8-26. : 3:26 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I forgot about that .. I quit after like a week of that (after having worked there almost a year) because that's way too much for an $8/hour line cook/dishwasher to be doing. [2014-8-26. : 3:24 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Oh shit, I totally forgot. I do have team-related experience from working in a restaurant. And when all the managers suddenly decided to quit and the new ones were all fucktarded I was the one who had to be like "Jesus Christ, just fucking pick a station and stay there and only make the things on the ticket related to that station. You, you're on pizzas. You, you're on sandwiches. You, you're on pastas. I'll run the oven." xD [2014-8-26. : 3:22 am] Moose -- Yeah, "absolutely couldn't figure it out" sometimes means "lazy" and/or "didn't actually try anything". [2014-8-26. : 3:21 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- "absolutely couldn't figure it out" includes assignments that were "Copy this code verbatim from the text book in to the IDE." [2014-8-26. : 3:20 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- And that's not a good example because they either didn't care/had given up or absolutely couldn't figure it out, so I ended up doing pretty much everything under the guise of "Here, I'll show you." [2014-8-26. : 3:19 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- The closest would be in my programming class in highschool where I was the most knowledgeable student (from already knowing the language we were using), so the teacher made me the head of the team of all the people struggling most in the class ... [2014-8-26. : 3:18 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'm fine with team stuff, that's just a weak point since I don't have a lot of experience or things I can cite as examples of teamwork and whatnot. ;o [2014-8-26. : 3:16 am] Moose -- Yeah, they probably don't want a super aspie who can't work with people for shit. [2014-8-26. : 3:15 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Since the last time I wrote a resume was for the position I already have, which basically is just "Can talk good and do computers good too." (Since that's the requirements for my job ) [2014-8-26. : 3:12 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'd just have to rewrite my resume to better fit "Basic C#, SQL, Java, Perl, etc. knowledge a plus", since I have "basic" knowledge of "all" of those things. [2014-8-26. : 3:11 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- It was just a "Email me a resume and I'll forward it.", except that was last week and I don't know how long they'd be doing that [2014-8-26. : 3:11 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I think the position was just for testing and debugging in-house things, so I'm not sure .. But I didn't think I had anything 'or similar' to a BA, so I didn't apply. [2014-8-26. : 3:10 am] Moose -- The worst that can happen is that a bot or human scans your application and turns you down. So if it's not a long app, might as well. [2014-8-26. : 3:09 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- like if I'd gotten money for it or made some program that was generally impressive in some way (not just a mapping/modding tool -- though if I'd made a whole editor I might consider that appropriate) [2014-8-26. : 3:08 am] Moose -- Though smaller companies might let you bend that. Big public companies and government jobs, maybe not. [2014-8-26. : 3:08 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- If I actually had like professional experience, then I might be able to get away with it. [2014-8-26. : 3:06 am] Moose -- I think or similar means a university degree in a related field, so probably not. [2014-8-26. : 3:05 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Also if they'd take even one look at the source code they'd just be like NOPE! [2014-8-26. : 3:04 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I was saying to my friend that I'd be really hesitant to since it's branded "FaRTy1billion" [2014-8-26. : 3:00 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- It said have or working towards BA in CS or similar. Do I have 'or similar' with a GED and some coding at home as a hobby? [2014-8-26. : 2:59 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Maybe I should take a couple classes just so I can say "Yeah, I'm going to school to work towards a CS degree. ... No, I'm going part time. In the past year? I've taken two classes. I plan on taking more in the future." [2014-8-26. : 2:57 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Except I probably wouldn't say it like that .. It'd be more like "Yeah, I looked at it and it's similar to PHP which I am fairly familiar with." [2014-8-26. : 2:56 am] Moose -- If you back it up enough with your existing prior work and demonstrate knowledge of other languages, you might get somewhere. [2014-8-26. : 2:55 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- If in a job interview I was like "Now I've never seen this language before, but ata cursory glance I feel I could learn it in an afternoon.", would they like that or think I was just being cocky? [2014-8-26. : 2:53 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I should've applied for that .. except I don't have a BA in CS, and I'm not working towards one. [2014-8-26. : 2:52 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] --  Before a couple days ago I didn't even know what Perl looked like. A job offer was posted at my work that said Perl knowledge was a 'plus'. [2014-8-26. : 2:51 am] Moose -- Maybe it's perl, but the server is set to process .php files as perl scripts. [2014-8-26. : 2:50 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'm pretty sure it's the same since the way most of these languages work are based on C [2014-8-26. : 2:49 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I just noticed the .php extention on that and thought, wouldn't it funny if php.net used .cgi? [2014-8-26. : 2:47 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- the 1 time out of whatever is if it's 0, NULL, or false (which, in C, all equal 0). [2014-8-26. : 2:44 am] Moose -- http://php.net/manual/en/language.operators.assignment.php says how it works, but from what you say, sounds like it does. [2014-8-26. : 2:44 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- And if it's anything else like C, 2n-1 times out of 2n, it will return True. [2014-8-26. : 2:37 am] Moose -- It isn't whether or not the assignment succeeds, it is the value assigned. [2014-8-26. : 2:36 am] Moose -- Ah, correction for what I said about PHP: "The value of an assignment expression is the value assigned." [2014-8-26. : 2:19 am]  jjf28 -- "I found the most convincing argument for the imperial system over the metric system"  [2014-8-26. : 2:17 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Which is an awesome typo to make when error-checking code ("WHY IS IT ALWAYS RETURNING FALSE?!" *don't notice = instead of ==*) [2014-8-26. : 2:16 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- so like if(x = false) would return false, but if(x = true) would return true [2014-8-26. : 2:16 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- "Mini Moose 2707 -- This seems language dependent, because PHP will return true for assignment statements. That was the exact mistake I made in the noob code I deleted yesterday." In C it returns based on the value of the assignment. [2014-8-26. : 2:14 am] Moose -- Okay, I found the most convincing argument for the imperial system over the metric system: http://i.imgur.com/LZSRaJg.jpg |
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