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I give up. You are actually stupid enough to think that American culture is "just hot dogs and burgers". Lets say the researchers were French, and they wanted to compare happiness in America to happiness in France. When they go to America, how do they ask people how happy they are? There are many synonyms for happinss in the English language. If they use elated, they will be more negative answers than if they had used content. Which English word is a direct equivalent for the French word they used?
Lets say an American has everything a French guy does. The French guy says he's happy, but the American says he isn't. This is because they have different views on happiness due to the culture they live in and grew up in.
I didn't say that American culture is hot dogs and burgers. I said that's what I think of American culture as. There's a difference. I was saying that since you're bringing the cultural differences into this discussion,
you need to provide some evidence that happiness in Denmark differs from happiness in America. You're giving a 'maybe' argument. This is serious discussion.
As for the differences in culture,
that's part of America. 'Culture'
can be influenced by the state, and
is determined by the lifestyle provided by the state. You're not getting something.
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Mc Cain doesn't have as good of a background, Obama graduated first in his class at harvard or something like that, whereas Mc Cain is an ex soldier. So it comes down to, are you going to choose the smarter one, or the white one?
Are you serious? McCain went to military school. And going to a "good" college does not make someone smart. It is by how someone takes the education and what they do with it. Maybe McCain couldn't afford to go to a good college because his family was a military family. At least McCain served his country on his own will. Let's not forget, if that was an issue, he wouldn't have been serving the government for quite a long time.
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I didn't say that American culture is hot dogs and burgers.
American culture (something which I think doesn't really exist, actually - just hot dogs and burgers)
If you want to proof from me that Danish happiness is different from American happiness, then you'll have to provide proof that the only reason the Danish are the happiest people is because they have socialism. Otherwise, it's a moot point.
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Mc Cain doesn't have as good of a background, Obama graduated first in his class at harvard or something like that, whereas Mc Cain is an ex soldier. So it comes down to, are you going to choose the smarter one, or the white one?
That sounds like a very educated statement.
McCain has a much larger political background than Obama (and most other politicians really).
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Are you serious? McCain went to military school. And going to a "good" college does not make someone smart. It is by how someone takes the education and what they do with it. Maybe McCain couldn't afford to go to a good college because his family was a military family. At least McCain served his country on his own will. Let's not forget, if that was an issue, he wouldn't have been serving the government for quite a long time.
McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class, out of almost 900 students; his father and grandfather were well respected admirals, and I'm sure they had the money and connections to get him almost anywhere. Ture, going to a good college does not make you smart, but I think that if a lower income African American can become the first Black President of Harvard Law Review, turn down offers to work for some of the wealthiest firms in America and turn the lives around of thousands in Illinois instead for nothing in return, is a good judge of his education and intellect.
McCain has served Arizona for over 20 years, yes, but is likely to lose his seat in 2010 to Governor Napolitano. Arizonians across race, age, and political ideogloy no longer recognise the man after he surrendered his moderate views to the far-right base of his party.
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That sounds like a very educated statement.
Better than choosing who you are voting for based purely on race or blindly voting for your party, like the majority of both parties.
McCain has a much larger political background than Obama (and most other politicians really).
He was a POW, and has been around longer. He's been known to do some mavericky things. On Obama's first day, party leaders of both sides were taken aback by the power and leadership of the man.
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Trying to force life to be fair makes it even less fair and to more people.
False. A carefully administered income tax that increases greatly in % given as a person goes into the millions and hundreds of millions won't be 'to more people
Fairness is a double sided coin. Unfairness can be advantageous and otherwise, when you take from the rich and give to the poor it is unfair to both the beneficiaries and the heavily taxed.
An animal should not have its egg cracked for it, or it can't develop or grow properly. I wasn't spoiled as a child, a fact that I'd take any day over its opposite- I pity those that are. People should be judged on what they do with the cards they are dealt. Anyone can overcome poverty, few have the will power to do it. Giving people money doesn't teach them anything.
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If you want to proof from me that Danish happiness is different from American happiness, then you'll have to provide proof that the only reason the Danish are the happiest people is because they have socialism. Otherwise, it's a moot point.
I'm afraid my only 'evidence' is examples. And since examples aren't evidence, then I have nothing. However, I can one-up on you by telling you to provide another real reason why Danish people could be the happiest - but this is getting tedious and it won't get anywhere. I proclaim my victory, you shall proclaim your victory, and we shall both come away from this experience feeling better about our skills at argument.
An animal should not have its egg cracked for it, or it can't develop or grow properly. I wasn't spoiled as a child, a fact that I'd take any day over its opposite- I pity those that are. People should be judged on what they do with the cards they are dealt. Anyone can overcome poverty, few have the will power to do it. Giving people money doesn't teach them anything.
Very few Americans (fine, people) have what it takes do go far beyond what they were born into. However, some are born so far down that they need a bit of help for an
opportunity to climb out of the hole. Like, I don't know, better schools and all that. Here, I'm just arguing your point, not saying Obama's better then McCain in education - I don't know their positions on it, and as I have stated, I vote primarily on foreign policy.
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What did the rich do to be born into trust funds, guaranteed college educations and wealth?
Someone in their family had to work hard to get there, if I become totally successful, shouldn't I be able to have my children and grandchildren succeed because of that? It's not that unbelievably difficult to become successful, the systems to help people are already in place, if you earned it, you have the right to help your posterity earn it too.
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I don't know their positions on it, and as I have stated, I vote primarily on foreign policy
Foreign relations is the only thing that tempts me to vote Obama. Lets face it, almost every country wants Obama in there. It's not enough though, I believe the repercussions outweigh that factor.
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I don't know their positions on it, and as I have stated, I vote primarily on foreign policy
Foreign relations is the only thing that tempts me to vote Obama. Lets face it, almost every country wants Obama in there. It's not enough though, I believe the repercussions outweigh that factor.
What are the repercussions? There is a likely chance of a near-instant respect and admiration from the world again, peace in Iraq, and a booming economy aren't worth it?
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Arizonians across race, age, and political ideogloy no longer recognise the man after he surrendered his moderate views to the far-right base of his party.
LOL WHEN DID MCCAIN BECOME A CONSERVATIVE? HE DIDN'T.
I'm afraid my only 'evidence' is examples. And since examples aren't evidence, then I have nothing. However, I can one-up on you by telling you to provide another real reason why Danish people could be the happiest - but this is getting tedious and it won't get anywhere. I proclaim my victory, you shall proclaim your victory, and we shall both come away from this experience feeling better about our skills at argument.
You can't prove your point. My point is only relevant if your point exists. I win. Do you understand logic?
What are the repercussions? There is a likely chance of a near-instant respect and admiration from the world again, peace in Iraq, and a booming economy aren't worth it?
Who's to say Obama will be respected?
Pulling out 'Nam was supposed to bring peace, too.
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I don't know their positions on it, and as I have stated, I vote primarily on foreign policy
Foreign relations is the only thing that tempts me to vote Obama. Lets face it, almost every country wants Obama in there. It's not enough though, I believe the repercussions outweigh that factor.
What are the repercussions? There is a likely chance of a near-instant respect and admiration from the world again, peace in Iraq, and a booming economy aren't worth it?
That's right, instant respect and admiration. Just like that.
Don't be foolish.
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McCain has served Arizona for over 20 years, yes, but is likely to lose his seat in 2010 to Governor Napolitano. Arizonians across race, age, and political ideogloy no longer recognize the man after he surrendered his moderate views to the far-right base of his party.
I am an Arizonan and I can tell you that the opposite is in fact true. He's a republican who has yielded to liberal pressure and that's why we don't like him.
If you want to proof from me that Danish happiness is different from American happiness, then you'll have to provide proof that the only reason the Danish are the happiest people is because they have socialism. Otherwise, it's a moot point.
I'm afraid my only 'evidence' is examples. And since examples aren't evidence, then I have nothing. However, I can one-up on you by telling you to provide another real reason why Danish people could be the happiest - but this is getting tedious and it won't get anywhere. I proclaim my victory, you shall proclaim your victory, and we shall both come away from this experience feeling better about our skills at argument.
It was a stupid and pointless argument from the beginning
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LOL WHEN DID MCCAIN BECOME A CONSERVATIVE? HE DIDN'T
He's been appeasing his base the entire campaign; why do you think he picked Palin?
That's right, instant respect and admiration. Just like that
Democrats that ride in on economic elections(FDR, Clinton), enjoy high approval ratings at a national and global level. Why? Because the Democrats that ride in on those waves fix the economic problems. In 2001, we had the largest surplus in our nation's history, and then had a change in policies. Eight years later, our national debt is twice what it was, our deregulated housing bubble has collapsed, and we are mocked internationaly for our ludicrous foreign policy.
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You need to learn the difference. Fascist = Far Right, Socialist = Far Left. Europe and Canada are currently near the Left.
Are you fucking serious? Fascist = Political, Socialist = Economic. There can be socialist fascist countries, anarchist socialist countries, fascist free-market countries, and anarchist free-market countries. You phail.
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Socialism and Fascism are both two different political ideologies.
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If you expect simply responding with an image of someone else's opinions on a different topic to be a more than half-decent argument, you are dead wrong.
Lets not derail this thread and keep talking about Obama and McCain and some other political flubbery.
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Socialism and Communism has the same ideologies. They are still both used in political statements. But we were talking about McCain and Obama, go make a different topic. Posting pictures as arguements is stupid. Anyone can make a graph and just put dots anywhere and label it and call it politically correct. So shh, Mr. Communism + Freedom can mix.
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