Self-explanatory; I'm going to post stuff in here that I've written and recorded. The first two I'm going to show you were recorded with a friend of mine. Voc027 was almost entirely written by me, but almost all the soloing is by my friend. Voc025 was a bit more divied up, but I wrote most of it. I do the first solo over the part right after the heavy part, you'll know it when you hear it, but the rest of it is pretty much my friend (solo-wise). I write a really lot of stuff, so expect me to post more stuff in the future and keep this alive for a long time.

These first two were recorded about 12-18 months ago on the same night.

http://www.staredit.net/moose/DD/voc027.mp3
http://www.staredit.net/moose/DD/voc025.mp3

(Moose determined voc027 worthy of putting on his ipod )

Edit: Here are more updates of things I've posted in the thread:

http://www.staredit.net/moose/DD/voc9001.wav
http://www.staredit.net/moose/DD/voc9002.wav

Post has been edited 4 time(s), last time on Apr 20 2008, 3:33 pm by Dapperdan.

http://www.staredit.net/topic/839/

And why do you get storage space in Moose's section of SEN? No fair.

I have so much stuff to post that I'd rather keep my own thread. That threads currently dead, and if I revive it then I'll pretty much be dominating the whole thread anyways.

Because I'm awesome?

027 seemed repetitive for a while, but that might just be because one of the parts was wayyyy louder than the other, and I couldn't hear anything but repeated chords (didn't listen to the whole thing).

025 seems to have the same problem. And how are you recording them, out of curiosity? Just straight through a mic?

I think the part that came out best from 027 is probably the second verse; it comes in at about 1:20, so I hope you at least listened to that part. I know what you mean about the volume difference though. As for 025, that was has a ton of different parts, so once again, I hope you gave it a chance, in which case you may find at least certain parts you like best. I think the volume for each guitar in general is close enough on that one. As for the repitiveness, if they were lyrics over it, it probably wouldn't seem that way, I guess I'm just more used to listening to recordings of only guitar.

I recorded them on my creative mp3 player and then put them on my comp later on. Obviously it's not the highest quality means of recording, so certain issues with sound can hopefully be taken with a grain of salt.

So much to post? I only see two

Anyway...
The first one started bad for me, I was really annoyed at the fact that one of the guitars suddenly stopped at 0:13 but the good thing is that I didn't press stop inmidiately. The first interlude was good specially because of the guitar solo behind at 1:30, was not bad and it kinda reminded me of a Salvadorean band, heh. The bridge on 2:10 well, umm stairway to heaven? Any chances you were influenced by that?
I'm about to finish it and I get what KK's saying, the song basically ends like 4 times and you revive it with the bridge I'm talking about. You shouldn't do that a song must only end onces or start with something completely different so it turns out as some kind of collage or travel between notes, start with something really different and then come back to the verse again, here echoes and you'll notice they start making weird noises and then there's a really hard part (musically) by the guitar and they go back.

Take that or leave it

Okay, I started to listen to it and IT WAS REALLY GOOD and then something happened and guitar started to get stronger and at around minute 1 started to make a random riff ( I say random because it doesn't go with the song kinda but I'll explain later) and that riff reminded me to a song I used to hear when I was little by cri cri, the song's named "El ropavejero" I think. Again it comes repetitive if you're going to do that try to variate it with something like a guitar picking behind kinda like you did in the interlude on the first one.

That's all, not that some parts of what I say you won't get because I was listening while writting
Overall I liked the second one the best, if I were to put a name to that song I would name it something like "Monsters attack" or "Enemy Invasion" or something like it because it starts nice and quietly and then the guitar starts playing like if you reached a dangerous part but you managed again so it went back to calmed mode and so on it keeps going until you die, because the end doesn't finish quite nicely and happy it ends up sad and low.

Again, take whatever you think it will be useful for you. I just tell you what I get from those songs.-

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Apr 6 2008, 10:58 pm by Corbo.

Idk what you mean by the sudden stop at 0:13. I think you typo'd. I know how to play stairway to heaven and really like that song, but there was no direct influence. Although obviously the bands I like and the songs that I choose to learn do influence my style in general, if you know what I mean.


I know what you mean about how it's repitive. It would definitely be refined if it were recorded again. The thing is that we kind of did this in the spur of the moment, and it wasn't entirely mapped out, and you if you listen closely you can probably hear me to trying to communicating a change between parts at least once.


There was a problem with the second part that I think you're talking about, where one guitar is definitely way louder than the other. I'm glad you liked the beginning, that is one of the parts I wrote. And the strumming of the power chords was me, and then the third verse (second set of chords) was written by my friend. I then took those chords and figured out some other parts with them... if there weren't so many damned verses in it and you guys would have the ability to understand what I meant, then I'd go further into detail.

I expect harsh critique from you Corbo, so I'll definitely 'take it' rather than leave it. You gave a better (nicer) review than I expected. Certainly constructive.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Apr 6 2008, 11:07 pm by Dapperdan.

Wow, great topic idea. My bands first serious practice will be in May, ill see if i can get a recording.

Yup, the thing is that the louder you play the worse quality of the output sound, it comes out less defines and sometimes produces screeches or really low bass that makes the things in your house vibrates and/or fall, I've been there, The same thing that happens when you use a really heavy distortion, it starts making a feedback that isn't even high but low.

Oops.

Here's another thing that I wrote a while back. I recorded it today, and here it is (it's very classical for the majority):

http://www.staredit.net/moose/DD/voc9001.wav

Be patient with the dl, this one is a bit long.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Apr 9 2008, 2:05 am by Dapperdan.

.wav? >.<

That's the format this other mp3 player makes it when it records. Moose would've have converted it to mp3, but he wanted to sleep and didn't want to put any effort into it.

You can convert them with iTunes or else just google "free wav to mp3 converter" and you should be spammed with thousands of millions of converters

So is no one going to listen to that last one unless it's converted to mp3....?

I haven't had the time to dl it, well, I've had but I wouldn't have been able to give you my opinion.

Pretty
Damm
Bad

Sorry
The notes hear cut because of the way you're playing the strings, try to use those two fingers a little bit smoother and without pulling the string but gently touching it.
The first part was really boring because of that just to find out the the other part was wrong also, now that I think about it everything's wrong. Why? You use almost the same low note for everything when you're coming down in the notes and in the first part too.
When you do things like this you keep in mind what chord is the arpeggio coming from (It's probably the wrong term in english, the arpeggio one) for example, if you, suppose, you are using G.
E A D G B e
3 5 5 4 .3 3

The lows in that are E and A, mostly on every chord is E and A (I'm talking about strings not notes)
The low notes on G are, G and D. Say you're going to play an arpeggio that goes like (strings)
e--3---------3-------------------------------
B------3---------3---------------------------
G---------4---------4------------------------
D---------------------------------------------
A--5----------5------------------------------
E---------------------------------------------

Although it would be correct if you played it really smooth it would still soung way too monotome and boring.
The way you're playing (pulling the strings) sounds bad specially because you try to do so at the same time with 3 strings and the sound cuts. One thing that should help that it's that you should alternate the lows say...

e--3---------3-----------3--------------------
B------3---------3-----------3----------------
G---------4---------4-----------4-------------
D--5-------------------------------------------
A-------------5--------------------------------
E-------------------------3--------------------

Tab might not be correct but it's just for you to get my idea.

the effect part is (I say effect because I can't hear if it's flange or phase, probably phse, though), not bad, but not ear friendly because the effect amplifies the sound so much that it loses quality and distortions it. The part after the first effect bridge is a decent arpeggio more fluent and smooth. Then there's another effect bridge and then it comes back to an arpeggio and ends.
The effects actually sound like if you tried to put an distortion pedal to a microphone-amplified acoustic which makes me wonder are YOU playing with an acoustic guitar?

I'm using an acoustic. I have 2 electric guitars and 2 acoustics (one electric acoustic). The constant note (string) you hear is the D. But I'm never picking more than 2 notes at once. I can understand how some of it may be boring due to a few too many repeats.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Apr 12 2008, 2:31 pm by Dapperdan.

http://www.staredit.net/moose/DD/voc9002.wav

Here's the next song. It's just me + I wrote all of it. 3:54 long.

There's a fumble or two but they're not big. And ignore the banging you can hear in the background early on, it goes away.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Apr 20 2008, 3:32 pm by Dapperdan.

That one's pretty good.
I would only recommend practicing it so you don't forget it ever and so you can play it more fluently because the sound gets cut sometimes on the first arpeggio but not so much for me to make a big deal about it.

It's a really good piece, it sounds good, nice rythm and all.

Other recommendation is uh.. reading something about sound or something like it so you don't punch the ears when you suddenly do cords.