It probably isnt a paradox, but whatever. Here's the idea: You start off with a fort, at the top of a long strip. You have a few defenders, four or so. Your foe has a few attackers, four or so. They attack, and every enemy you kill, you gain a mineral. Booooooring. Here's the interesting part... On the opposite side of the field, your roles are reversed... You are now the attacker, and he is now the defender. And those attackers you destroyed, they suddenly pop over to his side, and now you can use them to attack HIM! Or if you lose a defender, oh! There's now a familiar face amongst his ranks... Now obviously, you'd think that this would just repeat itself into infinity [lol paradox XD] but this is where the minerals come in. You must choose whether to boost your defense, or attack. And depending on which is boosted, the player's strategy's will change etc. For example, making crappy attackers means both sides will gain minerals, and the assaults will get nowhere, but making strong attackers means you will have to deal with them later. This probably won't work, since equal defences means the first person to gain a niche wins. But giving large variety of fairly balanced defenders/attackers can make the game all the more viable. Overrall, I think it's an interesting idea, that may either go far, or just die in a ditch. Who knows. Comments/Ideas?

It probably isnt a paradox, but whatever.
Here's the idea:

You start off with a fort, at the top of a long strip.
You have a few defenders, four or so.
Your foe has a few attackers, four or so.

They attack, and every enemy you kill, you gain a mineral.
Booooooring.
Here's the interesting part...
On the opposite side of the field, your roles are reversed...
You are now the attacker, and he is now the defender.
And those attackers you destroyed, they suddenly pop over to his side, and now you can use them to attack HIM!
Or if you lose a defender, oh! There's now a familiar face amongst his ranks...

Now obviously, you'd think that this would just repeat itself into infinity [lol paradox XD] but this is where the minerals come in. You must choose whether to boost your defense, or attack. And depending on which is boosted, the player's strategy's will change etc.
For example, making crappy attackers means both sides will gain minerals, and the assaults will get nowhere, but making strong attackers means you will have to deal with them later.

This probably won't work, since equal defences means the first person to gain a niche wins.
But giving large variety of fairly balanced defenders/attackers can make the game all the more viable.

Overrall, I think it's an interesting idea, that may either go far, or just die in a ditch. Who knows.

Comments/Ideas?

wouldnt the crappy attackers on both sides end up in a stale mate? ... did i read something incorrectly?

wouldnt the crappy attackers on both sides end up in a stale mate? ... did i read something incorrectly?

Possibly, but stuff can be worked out. So long as you aren't restricted in what units you choose, it should work. [Say if every defender except the marine sucked, then that would be "restricting" you, thus making every game the same]

Possibly, but stuff can be worked out.
So long as you aren't restricted in what units you choose, it should work. [Say if every defender except the marine sucked, then that would be "restricting" you, thus making every game the same]

this is a cool idea. I think you should try it. it has potential because it would keep you on your toes, and has a psychological element. it has a LOT of potential because it involves a lot of player interaction beyond mere killing. if you did it right, i think you could make it a sick map. you should do it.

this is a cool idea. I think you should try it.

it has potential because it would keep you on your toes, and has a psychological element.

it has a LOT of potential because it involves a lot of player interaction beyond mere killing.

if you did it right, i think you could make it a sick map. you should do it.

Thanks for the enthusiasm! After I complete Post Apocalyptic Warfare I will probably give this a shot. This post was written via PSP. They rock...

Thanks for the enthusiasm! After I complete Post Apocalyptic Warfare I will probably give this a shot.

This post was written via PSP.
They rock...

Here's a very basic prototype. 2 Types of attackers. 2 Types of defenders [I forgot to add tech, sorry!] It's a little buggy. But it suffices. Give the map a whirl! Done some more work. I've decided it'll be based around the timeline getting royally fucked up. Thus, you'll get units that come from all sorts of universes/times. You'll be defending against footmen, zerg, combine, you name it. Updated: Theres a "level up" system. When you get x zerglings, they become a zealot. When you get x zealots, they become an ultralisk. There are two "trees" of levelling at the moment. Melee, and Ranged. To increase the amount of melee attackers, make zerglings. Increase the ranged attackers by making Hydralisks. Please don't make ultralisks directly... EDIT: A friend and I playtested it yesterday. It was awesome. The defense was really close... There are a few exploits I have to fix [like yggdrasils being made to escape...] Map ReUploaded!

Here's a very basic prototype.
2 Types of attackers.
2 Types of defenders [I forgot to add tech, sorry!]
It's a little buggy. But it suffices.

Give the map a whirl!

Done some more work.
I've decided it'll be based around the timeline getting royally fucked up.
Thus, you'll get units that come from all sorts of universes/times.
You'll be defending against footmen, zerg, combine, you name it.

Updated:
Theres a "level up" system. When you get x zerglings, they become a zealot. When you get x zealots, they become an ultralisk.
There are two "trees" of levelling at the moment. Melee, and Ranged.
To increase the amount of melee attackers, make zerglings.
Increase the ranged attackers by making Hydralisks.

Please don't make ultralisks directly...

EDIT: A friend and I playtested it yesterday. It was awesome. The defense was really close...
There are a few exploits I have to fix [like yggdrasils being made to escape...]


Map ReUploaded!

Bump. This really does deserve some attention, take a squiz at the map, it's actually rather fun when you get someone who'll play. The worst part, is when you go all-out full rush tactic for the early win. And they scrape together and survive it. Guess who's just turned up at your doorstep...

Bump.
This really does deserve some attention, take a squiz at the map, it's actually rather fun when you get someone who'll play.

The worst part, is when you go all-out full rush tactic for the early win. And they scrape together and survive it.

Guess who's just turned up at your doorstep...

File doesn't exist... This sounded cool too.

File doesn't exist...

This sounded cool too.

Ahh, it woulda been wiped at some point by the forums getting rebooted, lemme reupload it.

Ahh, it woulda been wiped at some point by the forums getting rebooted, lemme reupload it.