The same sort of laws existed during the world wars (and others I'm sure), so this is not the first time this has happened. I would hardly consider what's going on in Iraq to be anything like the world wars, though.
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Some people believe EVERYTHING they read, especially if it's on the internet.
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I actually read the article and it's total bullshit how far he is stretching it.
Lmao, "This all hinges on the definition of "force," of course."
The supreme court would never call those things listed as force. This is retarded. Patriot Act, Bush's executive orders, etc. are way worse.
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Wow. The USA takes terrorism to a whole new level.
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All of you who think its bull-shit, read it and wheap:
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc110/h1955_rfs.xmlGG American free speech.
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Well, thats a lot more concrete than that poorly written and lacking of evidence article ToA posted.
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Oh well, it's not my country so I still got my free speech.
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Oh well, it's not my country so I still got my free speech.
You do realize that living in a Socialist country is worse, don't you?
Well, not much worse anymore, but you do realize that if Canada took away its Capitalistic views, you'd have...
NOTHING, right?
It would be the governments. Socialism is the new Communism.
And that's what America is going towards.
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Not all countries other than america is a socialist country.
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Um, Kellimus, it seems what you have posted has not been passed.
Also, acts passed by the Senate will be superseded by the Constitution. That's what it's there for. Many Supreme Court cases resulted from laws that violated the constitution.
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(8) Any measure taken to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism in the United States should not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights, or civil liberties of United States citizens or lawful permanent residents.
This would avoid any real problems, wouldn't it? Even if this did get passed.
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It would be the governments. Socialism is the new Communism.
And that's what America is going towards.
Even with reformed health care systems we will be overwhelming capitalist and full of wasteful consumerism. We are hardly heading in that direction.
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Um, Kellimus, it seems what you have posted has not been passed.
Also, acts passed by the Senate will be superseded by the Constitution. That's what it's there for. Many Supreme Court cases resulted from laws that violated the constitution.
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Quote(8) Any measure taken to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism in the United States should not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights, or civil liberties of United States citizens or lawful permanent residents.
This would avoid any real problems, wouldn't it? Even if this did get passed.
Notice the bold.
Yeah huh. And that's why we still have The Patriot Act?
Sorry, but you fail. GG
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You used that act as evidence that free speech is over. I cited a clause in the act that shows that free speech should be preserved. Therefore, your act fails to prove your point.
Furthermore, my first two points mean that it wouldn't be a challenge to free speech.
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The Department of Homeland Security’s efforts to prevent ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism as described herein shall not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights, or civil liberties of United States citizens or lawful permanent residents.
Odd how I find that within your link. You can basically argue with the act if you are getting arrested by it, but then again, people are assholes.
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If you can't see how that little "clause" doesn't matter, then you shouldn't even be in here Frazz.
If that little clause "mattered", we would no longer have The Patriot Act and The Military Commissions Act.
But we still have them, correct?
Good Game.
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It seems like your argument against me is always "If you can't see ______ then you're obviously too stupid to be not an idiot. Leave. GG."
So please explain to me how that doesn't matter, oh wise one. Otherwise I will assume you have no explanation.
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frazz, must you ask even the oblivious that kellimus will not answer your blatant vague question- neither you will get the answer you wanted? I am not even sure if you carefully analyze your opponent's post- or where your opponent's point is at. He's saying The Patriot Act and The Military Commissions Act matters because it is in place, where as if that little "clause" mattered, it would've put those two acts out of commission.
EDIT:: There voila. You have your point. It is however for you to decide if that is true or is bullshit. Won't delve much further into this than that.
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