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[2016-8-17. : 2:00 am]
Ahli -- the real question is, will our database be big data ready... I've learned in my project that it's hip to do big data now even for things where you don't need it
[2016-8-17. : 2:00 am]
Moose -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: for a deeper developer pool & the ability to chase down bugs, a mainstream language would be nice :)
http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ Java or C it is!
[2016-8-17. : 2:00 am]
Roy -- All aboard the Node/Express train.
[2016-8-17. : 1:59 am]
Roy -- JavaScript is a mainstream language.
[2016-8-17. : 1:58 am]
jjf28 -- for a deeper developer pool & the ability to chase down bugs, a mainstream language would be nice :)
[2016-8-17. : 1:58 am]
Ahli -- there were brackets everywhere... (the opposite of python)
[2016-8-17. : 1:57 am]
Moose -- Ahli
Ahli shouted: Mini Moose 2707 f*ck no... in my firest semester at this uni I had to learn a prof-personal bastardization of lisp (filled with bugs) that we had to learn and use
Not LISP's fault your professor forced a shitty implementation on you.
[2016-8-17. : 1:56 am]
Ahli -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: TBH, just have everyone learn LISP and write everything in that
f*ck no... in my firest semester at this uni I had to learn a prof-personal bastardization of lisp (filled with bugs) that we had to learn and use
[2016-8-17. : 1:56 am]
Moose -- It's what Paul Graham would want for us to do
[2016-8-17. : 1:55 am]
Moose -- TBH, just have everyone learn LISP and write everything in that
[2016-8-17. : 1:54 am]
jjf28 -- that's what MVC and J2EE works best with? I'm not certain but that's my barely-educated understanding :P
[2016-8-17. : 1:53 am]
Roy -- Whoa, whoa, whoa, who said we're using SQL?
[2016-8-17. : 1:52 am]
jjf28 -- I doubt there's anything on the hibernate/MVC level though, would spend lots of time fiddling with SQL
[2016-8-17. : 1:51 am]
jjf28 -- I've never used python in a web context (or at all that much) but for it to be a good choice we'd have to find some nice query-building libraries and some kind of web-request handling framework
[2016-8-17. : 1:51 am]
Roy -- Still, it'd give me a chance to learn Python.
[2016-8-17. : 1:50 am]
Roy -- Python would be like using a hammer on a screw; it's not a web technology, even if things like Django Project exist.
[2016-8-17. : 1:49 am]
Ahli -- python is cool... but I've only done machine learning with it...
[2016-8-17. : 1:48 am]
Moose -- How about Python? O____O
[2016-8-17. : 1:46 am]
Roy -- The worst part about it is that all of the tutorials and code samples are outdated, insecure, and just downright awful.
[2016-8-17. : 1:46 am]
jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Is PHP even really that bad?
it's not horrible imo, but you'll pretty much end up doing everything yourself which is dumb
[2016-8-17. : 1:45 am]
Moose -- I mean, the language itself, not the implementations here XD
[2016-8-17. : 1:45 am]
Roy -- Yes, PHP is quite terrible, actually.
[2016-8-17. : 1:45 am]
Roy -- It'll be like a shitty contest.
[2016-8-17. : 1:45 am]
Roy -- Well, we could have several repositories in several languages and see which one develops the fastest.
[2016-8-17. : 1:45 am]
Moose -- Is PHP even really that bad?
[2016-8-17. : 1:43 am]
Moose -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: C#/.NET master race imo
smh micro$oft
[2016-8-17. : 1:43 am]
Roy -- Especially since you get to use Visual Studio.
[2016-8-17. : 1:43 am]
Ahli -- lil-Inferno
lil-Inferno shouted: Ahli What?
jetbrains' phpstorm uses intellij's hotkey settings or something like that and the first time I used it I nicely removed everything I did because of hotkeys being different and delete line + documents automatically saving changes seemed a good concept to somebody
[2016-8-17. : 1:42 am]
jjf28 -- C#/.NET master race imo
[2016-8-17. : 1:42 am]
lil-Inferno -- Plus, that sweet, sweet OOP C|X^ D
[2016-8-17. : 1:42 am]
lil-Inferno -- If it's gonna be open source, I think using the most widely known and easy to use languages (Java, C#, etc) is our best bet.
[2016-8-17. : 1:42 am]
Dem0n -- aww I can't whisper myself
[2016-8-17. : 1:41 am]
jjf28 -- hey the whisper works
[2016-8-17. : 1:41 am]
lil-Inferno -- Ahli
Ahli shouted: doesn't intellij have those crazy hotkeys that delete a line and save the document?
What?
[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am]
lil-Inferno -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: the tech stack I'm currently being trained on: Java, SQL, Bootstrap/HTML/CSS, Hibernate, Spring MVC/AOP, AJAX, Angular; --- .NET has a much lower learning curve due to requiring less languages and much easier auto-persistence (not to mention C# is awesome)
fewer
[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am]
Moose -- TBH, just write modular pieces in C, since like everything can interface with C LMAO
[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am]
Ahli -- doesn't intellij have those crazy hotkeys that delete a line and save the document?
[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am]
jjf28 -- the tech stack I'm currently being trained on: Java, SQL, Bootstrap/HTML/CSS, Hibernate, Spring MVC/AOP, AJAX, Angular; --- .NET has a much lower learning curve due to requiring less languages and much easier auto-persistence (not to mention C# is awesome)
[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am]
lil-Inferno -- IntelliJ IMO
[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am]
Ahli -- of for some goddamned reason eclipse lets you open multiple instances of the same file and just does not save the edits in one of those... because that's how I like writing code... unsaved.
[2016-8-17. : 1:39 am]
Ahli -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Eclipse X_____________X
yep. I'm not a fan of it either... it just tends to break itself over time requiring you to maven update and full publish all day
[2016-8-17. : 1:38 am]
Roy -- I'd be fine going the .NET route though, because I'm so familiar with it.
[2016-8-17. : 1:38 am]
Roy -- I'd pick Node, because then I'd have an excuse to learn more about Node.
[2016-8-17. : 1:37 am]
Moose -- Eclipse X_____________X
[2016-8-17. : 1:37 am]
Roy -- Roy
Roy shouted: I think I'm gonna be sick.
[2016-8-17. : 1:37 am]
lil-Inferno -- IntelliJ IMO
[2016-8-17. : 1:37 am]
lil-Inferno -- Roy
Roy shouted: Like, J2EE?
Yes.
[2016-8-17. : 1:36 am]
Ahli -- main problem I encountered is eclipse :D
[2016-8-17. : 1:36 am]
Roy -- Maybe J2EE has gotten better over the years, but I don't have fond memories of it.
[2016-8-17. : 1:35 am]
Ahli -- java EE is what we are using atm in our porject :D
[2016-8-17. : 1:35 am]
Roy -- I think I'm gonna be sick.
[2016-8-17. : 1:35 am]
jjf28 -- I've been happiest with MS MVC (all in one) and J2EE (java, hibernate, etc.)
[2016-8-17. : 1:34 am]
Roy -- Like, J2EE?
[2016-8-17. : 1:34 am]
Ahli -- mainframe
[2016-8-17. : 1:34 am]
lil-Inferno -- Java.
[2016-8-17. : 1:34 am]
Roy -- So if you had to pick the backend technology for SEN, what would you choose?
[2016-8-17. : 1:31 am]
Moose -- At least they say thanks. Sounds like a nice company.
[2016-8-17. : 1:31 am]
Roy -- lil-Inferno
lil-Inferno shouted: As a SEN user, I would like a button to easily whisper a member in the shoutbox.
Where I work, all our user stories start with "As the company, do this feature thanks."
[2016-8-17. : 1:30 am]
lil-Inferno -- Wish list makes it sound like it'll never get done.
[2016-8-17. : 1:29 am]
Moose -- Wish list, whatever
[2016-8-17. : 1:29 am]
Ahli -- then v8 has a dating app because kame's husband died
[2016-8-17. : 1:29 am]
Moose -- User story sounds better than "desirement" and it's not a "requirement"
[2016-8-17. : 1:29 am]
lil-Inferno -- As a SEN user, I would like a button to easily whisper a member in the shoutbox.
[2016-8-17. : 1:28 am]
Ahli -- and a shoutbox for music and a shoutbox for pictures
[2016-8-17. : 1:28 am]
lil-Inferno -- Agile AF
[2016-8-17. : 1:28 am]
lil-Inferno -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: We can work it into the v6.1 / v7 user stories, though.
User stories LMAO
[2016-8-17. : 1:28 am]
Ahli -- v7 is only shoutbox...
[2016-8-17. : 1:28 am]
Moose -- We can work it into the v6.1 / v7 user stories, though.
[2016-8-17. : 1:27 am]
lil-Inferno -- C|X^ D
[2016-8-17. : 1:27 am]
Roy -- SEN doesn't even have a stateful API.

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