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[2016-8-17. : 2:00 am] Ahli -- the real question is, will our database be big data ready... I've learned in my project that it's hip to do big data now even for things where you don't need it[2016-8-17. : 2:00 am] Moose -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: for a deeper developer pool & the ability to chase down bugs, a mainstream language would be nice http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ Java or C it is![2016-8-17. : 1:58 am] jjf28 -- for a deeper developer pool & the ability to chase down bugs, a mainstream language would be nice [2016-8-17. : 1:57 am] Moose -- AhliAhli shouted: Mini Moose 2707 f*ck no... in my firest semester at this uni I had to learn a prof-personal bastardization of lisp (filled with bugs) that we had to learn and use Not LISP's fault your professor forced a shitty implementation on you.[2016-8-17. : 1:56 am] Ahli -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: TBH, just have everyone learn LISP and write everything in that f*ck no... in my firest semester at this uni I had to learn a prof-personal bastardization of lisp (filled with bugs) that we had to learn and use[2016-8-17. : 1:54 am] jjf28 -- that's what MVC and J2EE works best with? I'm not certain but that's my barely-educated understanding [2016-8-17. : 1:52 am] jjf28 -- I doubt there's anything on the hibernate/MVC level though, would spend lots of time fiddling with SQL[2016-8-17. : 1:51 am] jjf28 -- I've never used python in a web context (or at all that much) but for it to be a good choice we'd have to find some nice query-building libraries and some kind of web-request handling framework[2016-8-17. : 1:50 am] Roy -- Python would be like using a hammer on a screw; it's not a web technology, even if things like Django Project exist.[2016-8-17. : 1:46 am] Roy -- The worst part about it is that all of the tutorials and code samples are outdated, insecure, and just downright awful.[2016-8-17. : 1:46 am] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Is PHP even really that bad? it's not horrible imo, but you'll pretty much end up doing everything yourself which is dumb[2016-8-17. : 1:45 am] Roy -- Well, we could have several repositories in several languages and see which one develops the fastest.[2016-8-17. : 1:43 am] Ahli -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: Ahli What? jetbrains' phpstorm uses intellij's hotkey settings or something like that and the first time I used it I nicely removed everything I did because of hotkeys being different and delete line + documents automatically saving changes seemed a good concept to somebody[2016-8-17. : 1:42 am] lil-Inferno -- If it's gonna be open source, I think using the most widely known and easy to use languages (Java, C#, etc) is our best bet.[2016-8-17. : 1:41 am] lil-Inferno -- AhliAhli shouted: doesn't intellij have those crazy hotkeys that delete a line and save the document? What?[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am] lil-Inferno -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: the tech stack I'm currently being trained on: Java, SQL, Bootstrap/HTML/CSS, Hibernate, Spring MVC/AOP, AJAX, Angular; --- .NET has a much lower learning curve due to requiring less languages and much easier auto-persistence (not to mention C# is awesome) fewer[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am] Moose -- TBH, just write modular pieces in C, since like everything can interface with C LMAO[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am] Ahli -- doesn't intellij have those crazy hotkeys that delete a line and save the document?[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am] jjf28 -- the tech stack I'm currently being trained on: Java, SQL, Bootstrap/HTML/CSS, Hibernate, Spring MVC/AOP, AJAX, Angular; --- .NET has a much lower learning curve due to requiring less languages and much easier auto-persistence (not to mention C# is awesome)[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am] Ahli -- of for some goddamned reason eclipse lets you open multiple instances of the same file and just does not save the edits in one of those... because that's how I like writing code... unsaved.[2016-8-17. : 1:39 am] Ahli -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Eclipse X_____________X yep. I'm not a fan of it either... it just tends to break itself over time requiring you to maven update and full publish all day[2016-8-17. : 1:38 am] Roy -- I'd be fine going the .NET route though, because I'm so familiar with it.[2016-8-17. : 1:38 am] Roy -- I'd pick Node, because then I'd have an excuse to learn more about Node.[2016-8-17. : 1:36 am] Roy -- Maybe J2EE has gotten better over the years, but I don't have fond memories of it.[2016-8-17. : 1:35 am] jjf28 -- I've been happiest with MS MVC (all in one) and J2EE (java, hibernate, etc.)[2016-8-17. : 1:34 am] Roy -- So if you had to pick the backend technology for SEN, what would you choose?[2016-8-17. : 1:31 am] Roy -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: As a SEN user, I would like a button to easily whisper a member in the shoutbox. Where I work, all our user stories start with "As the company, do this feature thanks."[2016-8-17. : 1:29 am] Moose -- User story sounds better than "desirement" and it's not a "requirement"[2016-8-17. : 1:29 am] lil-Inferno -- As a SEN user, I would like a button to easily whisper a member in the shoutbox.[2016-8-17. : 1:28 am] lil-Inferno -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: We can work it into the v6.1 / v7 user stories, though. User stories LMAO |