Following controversy and protests from gay activists at APA annual conferences from 1970 to 1973, the seventh printing of the DSM-II, in 1974, no longer listed homosexuality as a category of disorder. After talks led by the psychiatrist Robert Spitzer, who had been involved in the DSM-II development committee, a vote by the APA trustees in 1973, confirmed by the wider APA membership in 1974, had replaced the diagnosis with a milder category of "sexual orientation disturbance". This was replaced with the diagnosis of ego-dystonic homosexuality in the DSM-III in 1980, but this was removed in 1987 with the release of the DSM-III-R.[3][9][10] A category of "sexual disorder not otherwise specified" continues in the DSM-IV, which may include "persistent and marked distress about one’s sexual orientation”.

Also, if "God" created everyone, why he'd oppose homosexuals is hypocritical. So really why create them in the first place eh "God"?

Free will.

Free will.

Does free will even exist when it comes to topics about God? I mean, believers say God knows everything which means he knows what you'll do in your life. Therefore, in a way, your life is already planned and free will doesn't exist. On the other hand, if God does not know everything, then free will does exist.

And if I'm reading your response correctly, you're saying that free will was created by God so he could have a reason to oppose homosexuality or any other attributes? I'm lost.

A real simply way to look at it is like a chess game. Lets say you move a given piece. You know the out come of all the movements of the piece. Free will is like this, you have all the choices to do w/e, and God knows the out come of all of them. Though which one you take is your choice.

Actually, I'd imagine it such that God would know what choice you would make, that is assuming God knows everything. So because God knows what choices you will make, you are simply following a predestined path.

That's the thing about free will though, the path is know the choice isn't. That's just my take on it though.

Arguably, but then again God knowing all but not being able to mess with free will almost makes sense if you view as a God illogical...thing.

Nothing you are saying makes any sense. You probably shouldn't attempt to make an arguement you don't know how to make, or you'll just look foolish. I mean, it's not like the arguement you're trying to make is even easy to make it appear logical in the first place. Anti wasn't too overbearing about it, but he's basically just pointing out how contradictory your statements are, I agree with him.

And where did the whole homosexuality is an abomination come from? The same book that calls crab shrimp and shellfish an abomination, or could it be that these people were already homophobic, and they use the bible to reinforce their beliefs?

http://www.fallwell.com/selective%20quotation.html

if he wants to appeal to christianity, then he better not be wearing clothes of more than 1 type of fabric, eating pigs because of their split hooves, working on sundays, and if someone rapes his sister she'd better marry him, he'd better beat his wife and stone his kids if they're disobeident, and all the other gay shit christians don't wanna follow anymore but somehow wanna follow this anti homosexuality rule

And you're just making something simple, wordy. I wasn't making an argument, you even quoted me saying "that's my take on it though."

Oh and btw, drop the elitism.

And also all of us are under the assumption that "God" is all knowing when it maybe that it's just an extremely intelligent being.