What would happen if we broke the law of energy conservation and turned all of the thermal energy in a room into bacon, this bacon having no thermal energy of it's own? Also, yes, I know you can't turn energy into matter, but let's just break that rule too.

What would happen if we broke the law of energy conservation and turned all of the thermal energy in a room into bacon, this bacon having no thermal energy of it's own? Also, yes, I know you can't turn energy into matter, but let's just break that rule too.

Ummmm..... If the bacon had no thermal energy, it would be at absolute zero. The room, with no thermal energy, would also be at absolute zero. Then you'd have....? Yes, you can convert energy into matter, but all the thermal energy in a room would probably not give you very much bacon.

Ummmm.....
If the bacon had no thermal energy, it would be at absolute zero. The room, with no thermal energy, would also be at absolute zero. Then you'd have....?

Yes, you can convert energy into matter, but all the thermal energy in a room would probably not give you very much bacon.

Converting bacon into energy = bigger blast then the ordinary nuclear explosion. :D (Especially if it's Francis bacon.)

Converting bacon into energy = bigger blast then the ordinary nuclear explosion.
(Especially if it's Francis bacon.)

Except that he's going the other way around, energy into matter. =P ... I don't get the point of the question. >.> <.<

Except that he's going the other way around, energy into matter. =P

... I don't get the point of the question. >.> <.<

Err... The room and the bacon would be at absolute zero. It would just sit there, slowly heating back up due to things outside the room transferring thermal energy into the room. Some stuff might freeze or get damaged from being so cold, but nothing really spectacular would happen.

Err... The room and the bacon would be at absolute zero. It would just sit there, slowly heating back up due to things outside the room transferring thermal energy into the room. Some stuff might freeze or get damaged from being so cold, but nothing really spectacular would happen.

Well, gas collapses completely at (near) absolute zero. Since nobody's ever gotten a solid to absolute zero, we can't know what will happen exactly. No, it'll probably all collapse. The room and bacon would fall down, hitting the ground forming a thin layer of very dense matter. Unless you take into account outside forces.

Well, gas collapses completely at (near) absolute zero. Since nobody's ever gotten a solid to absolute zero, we can't know what will happen exactly.

No, it'll probably all collapse. The room and bacon would fall down, hitting the ground forming a thin layer of very dense matter. Unless you take into account outside forces.

This is really a stupid question. We can't have any scientific evidence to support anything we say since this is theoreticaly impossible. But I'll try to play along... So if all the heat in a place would turn into bacon, well then the area would go to absolute 0. However, at absolute 0 matter cannot theoreticaly exist, so either it would turn back into heat or it would disappear.

This is really a stupid question. We can't have any scientific evidence to support anything we say since this is theoreticaly impossible. But I'll try to play along...

So if all the heat in a place would turn into bacon, well then the area would go to absolute 0. However, at absolute 0 matter cannot theoreticaly exist, so either it would turn back into heat or it would disappear.

[quote]However, at absolute 0 matter cannot theoreticaly exist,[/quote] Out of curiosity, where does this come from?

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However, at absolute 0 matter cannot theoreticaly exist,

Out of curiosity, where does this come from?

[quote=EzDay281][quote]However, at absolute 0 matter cannot theoreticaly exist,[/quote] Out of curiosity, where does this come from?[/quote] It's just what I've been told. When you start going into things that theoreticaly can't happen (such as absolute 0) other theoreticaly impossible stuff happens (matter disappearing).

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However, at absolute 0 matter cannot theoreticaly exist,

Out of curiosity, where does this come from?

It's just what I've been told. When you start going into things that theoreticaly can't happen (such as absolute 0) other theoreticaly impossible stuff happens (matter disappearing).

I've been told that 2 + 2 = 5 That's the stupidest thing ever, and horrible logic: "Matter cannot be brought to absolute zero. "Thus, matter at absolute zero must poof out of existence." First statement good, last one, bad. There's no rule that matter can't be at 0, but it can't be brought to zero.

I've been told that 2 + 2 = 5

That's the stupidest thing ever, and horrible logic:
"Matter cannot be brought to absolute zero.
"Thus, matter at absolute zero must poof out of existence."

First statement good, last one, bad. There's no rule that matter can't be at 0, but it can't be brought to zero.

I was thinking that there would be a huge collapse due to the rapid change in pressure (since reaching absolute 0 implies reaching a point of 0 volume) and things nearby would be frozen and/or torn apart. Also, things inside the room would be broken, due to bacon forming between the molecules (this is also assuming that you would get a relatively gigantic amount of bacon for each joule of thermal energy converted, and by that I mean about a square millimeter). You'd also have some very cold bacon. [quote=Ejac]This is really a stupid question.[/quote] OmgIknowright? :P

I was thinking that there would be a huge collapse due to the rapid change in pressure (since reaching absolute 0 implies reaching a point of 0 volume) and things nearby would be frozen and/or torn apart. Also, things inside the room would be broken, due to bacon forming between the molecules (this is also assuming that you would get a relatively gigantic amount of bacon for each joule of thermal energy converted, and by that I mean about a square millimeter). You'd also have some very cold bacon.

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This is really a stupid question.

OmgIknowright?

I don't think you would end up with very much bacon.

I don't think you would end up with very much bacon.

[QUOTE=frazz]Yes, you can convert energy into matter, but all the thermal energy in a room would probably not give you very much bacon.[/QUOTE]

I think you would get quite a lot of bacon, considering zero point energy is thermal.

I think you would get quite a lot of bacon, considering zero point energy is thermal.

[quote=frazz]I've been told that 2 + 2 = 5 That's the stupidest thing ever, and horrible logic: "Matter cannot be brought to absolute zero. "Thus, matter at absolute zero must poof out of existence." First statement good, last one, bad. There's no rule that matter can't be at 0, but it can't be brought to zero.[/quote] Ok fine, I got told in my chemistry III AP course that matter cannot exist at absolute 0. We didn't go very deep into this subject so I can't exactly explain to you why that is. Of course there are multiple theories of what exactly would happen if matter was brought to 0, but one thing I've heard repeatedly is that matter cannot exist at 0, it's just a question of what happens to it.

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I've been told that 2 + 2 = 5

That's the stupidest thing ever, and horrible logic:
"Matter cannot be brought to absolute zero.
"Thus, matter at absolute zero must poof out of existence."

First statement good, last one, bad. There's no rule that matter can't be at 0, but it can't be brought to zero.

Ok fine, I got told in my chemistry III AP course that matter cannot exist at absolute 0. We didn't go very deep into this subject so I can't exactly explain to you why that is. Of course there are multiple theories of what exactly would happen if matter was brought to 0, but one thing I've heard repeatedly is that matter cannot exist at 0, it's just a question of what happens to it.

AntiSleep: E=MC^2 So M = E/(C^2) That's a small amount of mass, even for an insane amount of energy.

AntiSleep: E=MC^2 So M = E/(C^2) That's a small amount of mass, even for an insane amount of energy.

The density of zero point energy is beyond insane. It is hbar*omega/2 for every spacial point, and there are an infinite of points in room with a positive volume. infinite amount of energy / C^2. C is constant, so the amount of bacon would be infinite.

The density of zero point energy is beyond insane. It is hbar*omega/2 for every spacial point, and there are an infinite of points in room with a positive volume. infinite amount of energy / C^2. C is constant, so the amount of bacon would be infinite.

I've never heard of zero point energy from a reliable source. Care to show me one?

I've never heard of zero point energy from a reliable source. Care to show me one?

[quote=FatalException][SIZE=18]thermal energy[/SIZE][/quote] Thermal energy != zero point energy. You would not get very much bacon.

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Thermal energy != zero point energy. You would not get very much bacon.

I don't think this question is about how much bacon would come out.

I don't think this question is about how much bacon would come out.