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Mar 30 2010, 6:12 am poison_us Post #1401

Back* from the grave

I'm playing a game with shredder right now, and he can't stop bitching because predator is raping me 1v1. Pollywog sucks vs Predator, for anyone out there interested.




Mar 30 2010, 6:29 am ShredderIV Post #1402



Poison, here's a couple tips...

1. There is a reason you don't play 2v2. Had it been a 5v5 game, predator would have been manageable.
2. Even if pred outlanes you there is NO reason why you should go 1-6 against him in the first 8 minutes.
3. There is a reason why (and you said it yourself) you suck at 5v5, and it is the same reason you sucked In that 2v2.

Predator is manageable. You get boots. You keep the creeps close to your tower. He leaps you? You run back and hold him in the tower range and get a kill. Do not make me seem like the bad guy. In 200 matches, I have left 6 games. 4 were from dc's. That number is now 7. I refuse to play another 2v2 with you, and I'm sure the other sen guys will back menup on it's downfalls.



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Mar 30 2010, 7:22 am Excalibur Post #1403

The sword and the faith

There is never, under any circumstance, an excuse for willingly leaving a game.




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Mar 30 2010, 10:16 am OlimarandLouie Post #1404



What is a good support hero, that focuses on the manipulation of your teammates/foes?



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Mar 30 2010, 1:22 pm Decency Post #1405



Quote from rockz
psr is nothing.

Ultimo, I'm not very good. I don't play any EM though, which is more than most people can say. EM is IMO actually harder, since it amplifies skills. It's easier to win if you're better than everyone on the other team, even if the rest of your team sucks.

I really hate carries, and I wish I were better at any ranged hero. Elec is by far my best char. i've gone 2-0-20 before. I suck at succ, because her disables aren't all that friendly, and she has so little range that it's quite hard to mid.

How do pros stop vindicator's l1? Just avoid it?

Vindicator hard counters a lot of people in lanes, so he's usually used as a quasi-babysitter and counterpick. People like Swiftblade, Chronos, Legionnaire all have expensive skills to cast to break it. He also counters teamfights huge against Behemoth, Magmus, Tempest, and others.

PSR is everything. =o

Olimar I have a guide that I'll be able to finish when I work on it for another 30 minutes about hero roles. I'll try to have it up by noon.


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There is never, under any circumstance, an excuse for willingly leaving a game.
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Mar 30 2010, 2:28 pm LoveLess Post #1406

Let me show you how to hump without making love.

I am actually not that bad and a lot of people can support this. It's from my growing lack of care because I don't see the point in getting frustrated over a game. There is also the fact that despite several Bumps in my topic for fixing a serious problem with my HoN. Every 20~ seconds, my screen goes blank or it doesn't update for 3~ seconds. This has been causing a lot of issues for me and when my new PC is built, this might change and it should significantly increase my potential.

I mean, I am sure you have seen me turn matches around before as you guys still let me play knowing that I can fail hard.




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Mar 30 2010, 2:30 pm ShredderIV Post #1407



Quote from Excalibur
There is never, under any circumstance, an excuse for willingly leaving a game.
Except that I did not want to waste my time playing a game that was already lost.

Say what you want. But I find it perfectly reasonable that I left that game.

@lovelesss, yeah, that and you can actually play rampage :D

On a last note, despite my raging behavior in the game and quitting, I find it childish that you would feed me to the other team another three times posion. You might be mad at me, but that is no reason to go and try and fuck up my stats. This is another reason why I will never play with you again on the same team.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Mar 30 2010, 2:46 pm by ShredderIV.



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Mar 30 2010, 2:50 pm NudeRaider Post #1408

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

Quote from OlimarandLouie
What is a good support hero, that focuses on the manipulation of your teammates/foes?
Succubus is master at manipulating your foes.
You can sleep 1 opponent with mesmerize and remove almost all damage from their physical damage carry with smitten and then hold a 3rd hero with succubus hold. If you disabled the 2 only stunners/silencers in their team you single handedly turned a 5v5 into a 4v2.
This is just the optimal outcome however and your mesmerize can quickly backfire because any hero that attacks a mesmerized hero becomes mesmerized himself and wakes the original target up. And once he wakes up he will stun you and thus break your hold (channeled).
So this needs coordination and/or a non-noob team to be effective, both of which are not given in a low PSR pub game.

So I recommend Demented Shaman to you since his job is to stay out of harms way and heal/prevent damage from his allies from behind using healing wave and arcane hide and slow fleeing or pursuing enemies or interrupt channels with entangle.
You will also be loved for your ultimate the storm cloud which has a huge range and radius and low cd so its very noob friendly but devastating if cast just before fights start. If you have to decide to cast in on your team or the enemy team (ideally both) choose the team that has lower physical damage output to make most of the armor reduction/addition.




Mar 30 2010, 3:26 pm Excalibur Post #1409

The sword and the faith

Quote from ShredderIV
Quote from Excalibur
There is never, under any circumstance, an excuse for willingly leaving a game.
Except that I did not want to waste my time playing a game that was already lost.
Can you read? Did you miss the part about no excuses?

Quote from ShredderIV
Say what you want. But I find it perfectly reasonable that I left that game.
Which is probably why people are taking issue with you: Because you're wrong.




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Mar 30 2010, 4:39 pm ShredderIV Post #1410



Quote from Excalibur
Quote from ShredderIV
Quote from Excalibur
There is never, under any circumstance, an excuse for willingly leaving a game.
Except that I did not want to waste my time playing a game that was already lost.
Can you read? Did you miss the part about no excuses?

Quote from ShredderIV
Say what you want. But I find it perfectly reasonable that I left that game.
Which is probably why people are taking issue with you: Because you're wrong.
Except I personally find that to be a valid excuse and I find it perfectly reasonable. You guys may think otherwise, but to me, it was a perfectly fine choice.

Yes I understand about not leaving a game, yes I understand your point of view. But in that one situation, I obviously found the pros to leaving the cgame to be higher than the cons, so I left it. That was my decision, and I find it perfectly reasonable.

Tell me i'm wrong, I don't really care, because that's your opinion. Allow me to have my own opinions as well.



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Mar 30 2010, 5:10 pm Neki Post #1411



No reason to ever voluntarily leave a game. If your team is losing, suck it up, or concede. No game is ever lost. ever.



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Mar 30 2010, 5:23 pm ShredderIV Post #1412



I would never leave a game for the simple reason that we were losing. Just ask nude, often times in games I don't concede, even when it looks bleak, and sometimes just me not passing the vote has won us the game.

I left because the game was a complete waste of time, and I had much more important things to do. Playing a 2v2 with a fed predator and a teammate who is hopeless took up time I could be using to do anything else. Considering it was 2 AM, I really had no patience for a game like that.



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Mar 30 2010, 5:31 pm poison_us Post #1413

Back* from the grave

Quote from Excalibur
There is never, under any circumstance, an excuse for willingly leaving a game.
Quote from name:Taylor Swift
No reason to ever voluntarily leave a game. If your team is losing, suck it up, or concede. No game is ever lost. ever.
You've never played with me before when I've been sucking have you?





Mar 31 2010, 10:04 am LegacyWeapon Post #1414



Golden Shield GET! Anyone else?



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Mar 31 2010, 2:51 pm Neki Post #1415



I'm not rich like you young fellas. =(



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Mar 31 2010, 2:58 pm Decency Post #1416



Yeah bought it yesterday.

Also forgot to post the guide, I did finish the hero roles section yesterday. Do me a favor and bump it. =p

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=94470



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Mar 31 2010, 3:05 pm Excalibur Post #1417

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Quote from LegacyWeapon
Golden Shield GET! Anyone else?
I was one of the first to buy. :P

@Everyone
My friend Joe went 0-24-0 as Pebbles, and we had a pub that wouldn't let us concede. I didn't leave. Until you or your team starts to go 0-50-0 I don't want to hear dick about BUT MY TEAM WAS SO BAD BAWWWWW. Suck it up you bunch of cry babies. I don't play with leavers.




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Mar 31 2010, 3:09 pm ShredderIV Post #1418



Quote from Excalibur
Quote from LegacyWeapon
Golden Shield GET! Anyone else?
I was one of the first to buy. :P

@Everyone
My friend Joe went 0-24-0 as Pebbles, and we had a pub that wouldn't let us concede. I didn't leave. Until you or your team starts to go 0-50-0 I don't want to hear dick about BUT MY TEAM WAS SO BAD BAWWWWW. Suck it up you bunch of cry babies. I don't play with leavers.
And I don't play with EM-ers... So look like its a good thing for both of us.



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Mar 31 2010, 6:11 pm poison_us Post #1419

Back* from the grave

Quote from LegacyWeapon
Golden Shield GET! Anyone else?
But do you have a golden, winged tank?





Mar 31 2010, 7:07 pm rockz Post #1420

ᴄʜᴇᴇsᴇ ɪᴛ!

I got disconnected once "no response from server crap" and didn't get the "you can reconnect" screen so I just quit playing. Got 2 leaves that way. The other 2 I was playing on wednesday night and didn't realize we had church, thus had to leave.



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