I'm trying to create a dark archon at a location that is supposed to center on a dark swarm which is instantly removed when casted. These are my triggers. Conditions: -Always Actions: -Center location labeled 'P1 Bullet' on 'Bullet' owned by All Players at 'P1's place'. -Preserve Trigger Conditions: -All Players bring at least 1 Bullet to 'p1's place'. Actions: -Create 1 Protoss Dark Archon at 'P1 Bullet' for Player 1. -Kill all Protoss Dark Archon at 'P1 Bullet' for Player 1. -Preserve Trigger Conditions: -All Players bring at least 1 Bullet to 'Anywhere'. Actions: -Remove all Bullet for All Players. -Preserve Trigger The dark archon isn't spawning. How to fix?

I'm trying to create a dark archon at a location that is supposed to center on a dark swarm which is instantly removed when casted. These are my triggers.

Conditions:
-Always

Actions:
-Center location labeled 'P1 Bullet' on 'Bullet' owned by All Players at 'P1's place'.
-Preserve Trigger
Conditions:
-All Players bring at least 1 Bullet to 'p1's place'.

Actions:
-Create 1 Protoss Dark Archon at 'P1 Bullet' for Player 1.
-Kill all Protoss Dark Archon at 'P1 Bullet' for Player 1.
-Preserve Trigger

Conditions:
-All Players bring at least 1 Bullet to 'Anywhere'.

Actions:
-Remove all Bullet for All Players.
-Preserve Trigger

The dark archon isn't spawning. How to fix?

Is the Dark Archon spawned on walkable terrain? Is the Bullet in "p1 place"? Are the triggers for the right player?

Is the Dark Archon spawned on walkable terrain?
Is the Bullet in "p1 place"?
Are the triggers for the right player?

ok A) your making it overcomplicated B) your first trigger doesnt work. C) Your third trigger is removing the dark swarm before the location can center on it. try this: Condition: - All Players brings exactly (or at least) 1 'Bullet' to 'p1's place' Action: - Center Location 'P1 Bullet' on 'Bullet' at "P1's place' - Remove 1 'Bullet' at 'P1 Bullet' - Create 1 'Dark Archon' At 'P1 Bullet' - Wait 0 millisecond - Kill exactly 1 'Dark Archon' at 'P1 Bullet' - Preserve Trigger if you experience wait blocks use a death count timer.

ok
A) your making it overcomplicated
B) your first trigger doesnt work.
C) Your third trigger is removing the dark swarm before the location can center on it.

try this:
Condition:
- All Players brings exactly (or at least) 1 'Bullet' to 'p1's place'

Action:
- Center Location 'P1 Bullet' on 'Bullet' at "P1's place'
- Remove 1 'Bullet' at 'P1 Bullet'
- Create 1 'Dark Archon' At 'P1 Bullet'
- Wait 0 millisecond
- Kill exactly 1 'Dark Archon' at 'P1 Bullet'
- Preserve Trigger

if you experience wait blocks use a death count timer.

Your problem is the constant centering, while it may center once on the unit in question, in the next trigger loop the unit is no longer there, and so it now gets centered to the middle of whatever location you are saying the unit is in, in this case, Anywhere.

Your problem is the constant centering, while it may center once on the unit in question, in the next trigger loop the unit is no longer there, and so it now gets centered to the middle of whatever location you are saying the unit is in, in this case, Anywhere.

Well that didn't work Sin. Poop.

Well that didn't work Sin. Poop.

didn't work? can you tell us exactly what's happening? is the dark archon being created elsewhere?

didn't work?
can you tell us exactly what's happening?
is the dark archon being created elsewhere?

I don't think the dark archon is being created at all. And Falk, the location wouldn't move would it? The location stays where it is even if the thing is taken away and if there's nothing to center on, it wouldn't move. Right? I'm not positive.

I don't think the dark archon is being created at all. And Falk, the location wouldn't move would it? The location stays where it is even if the thing is taken away and if there's nothing to center on, it wouldn't move. Right? I'm not positive.

As I said, if you try to center a location on a unit that is not there, it goes to the center of the location you told it the unit was in.

As I said, if you try to center a location on a unit that is not there, it goes to the center of the location you told it the unit was in.

Even if that is what's happening here, there is no dark archon spawning and there's nothing that's saying the the dark archon has no room to be placed.

Even if that is what's happening here, there is no dark archon spawning and there's nothing that's saying the the dark archon has no room to be placed.

Why don't you remove the bullet in the same trigger as you create and kill the dark archon? There's no wait required like SiN had, but it's pointless to have it separated.

Why don't you remove the bullet in the same trigger as you create and kill the dark archon? There's no wait required like SiN had, but it's pointless to have it separated.

Assuming the bullet is the dark swarm, it is not working because it is not owned by the player that casts it. It's owned the player 12 (neutral).

Assuming the bullet is the dark swarm, it is not working because it is not owned by the player that casts it. It's owned the player 12 (neutral).

I think you can easily fit everything in to one trigger. Condition: p12 brings at least one Dark Swarm to 'p1's place' Action: Center location 'p1 bullet' on one Dark Swarm owned by p12 at 'p1's place' Create one Dark Archon at 'p1 bullet' for p1 Kill one Dark Archon owned by p1 at 'p1 bullet' Kill one Dark Swarm owned by p12 at 'p1 bullet' preserve trigger Note that if you're using SCMdraft2 standard trigger editor you have to use 'neutral' instead of p12.

I think you can easily fit everything in to one trigger.

Condition:
p12 brings at least one Dark Swarm to 'p1's place'

Action:
Center location 'p1 bullet' on one Dark Swarm owned by p12 at 'p1's place'
Create one Dark Archon at 'p1 bullet' for p1
Kill one Dark Archon owned by p1 at 'p1 bullet'
Kill one Dark Swarm owned by p12 at 'p1 bullet'
preserve trigger

Note that if you're using SCMdraft2 standard trigger editor you have to use 'neutral' instead of p12.

Yeah Sin's trigger works just fine, but as Kyles mentioned detect and center swarms for P12. Then remove the wait and the remove dark archon so you can trace where the archon is being created (just for testing / pinpointing the problem). Most likely where you don't expect it (locations switched?) and because you remove it right after you don't notice it's created at all. Btw. if the swarm is being removed and the next action is create dark archon you can tell for sure that it IS being created (or unplaceable error), the question is just where.

Yeah Sin's trigger works just fine, but as Kyles mentioned detect and center swarms for P12.

Then remove the wait and the remove dark archon so you can trace where the archon is being created (just for testing / pinpointing the problem). Most likely where you don't expect it (locations switched?) and because you remove it right after you don't notice it's created at all.

Btw. if the swarm is being removed and the next action is create dark archon you can tell for sure that it IS being created (or unplaceable error), the question is just where.

[quote]Assuming the bullet is the dark swarm, it is not working because it is not owned by the player that casts it. It's owned the player 12 (neutral).[/quote] Yeah, but All Players also works, so that isn't the problem. Also, make sure you're not hacking while testing, as some hacks auto-remove the placement error...

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Assuming the bullet is the dark swarm, it is not working because it is not owned by the player that casts it. It's owned the player 12 (neutral).

Yeah, but All Players also works, so that isn't the problem.

Also, make sure you're not hacking while testing, as some hacks auto-remove the placement error...

This trigger should work. [line=100] [b][u][size=14][color=#81A7EF]Players:[/color][/size][/u][/b] [color=#86EE59]?[/color] [b][u][size=14][color=#81A7EF]Conditions:[/color][/size][/u][/b] [color=#86EE59]'Neutral' brings 'at least' '1' 'Dark Swarm' to' Anywhere' 'Switch 1' is 'Clear'[/color] [b][u][size=14][color=#81A7EF]Actions:[/color][/size][/u][/b] [color=#86EE59]Center location 'Swarm' on 'Dark Swarm' owned by 'Neutral' 'Set' 'Switch 1' Remove' Dark Swarm' owned by 'Neutral' at Swarm' Create '1' 'Dark Archon' for 'Neutral' at 'Swarm' Kill '1' 'Dark Archon' owned by 'Neutral' at 'Swarm' Clear Switch 1 Preserve Trigger.[/color] [line=100] The reason your trigger wasn't working is because when you centered the location and removed the dark swarm it stopped the rest of the trigger from firing because the conditions are not met because the dark swarm is no longer there.

This trigger should work.

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Players:
?

Conditions:

'Neutral' brings 'at least' '1' 'Dark Swarm' to' Anywhere'

'Switch 1' is 'Clear'

Actions:

Center location 'Swarm' on 'Dark Swarm' owned by 'Neutral'

'Set' 'Switch 1'

Remove' Dark Swarm' owned by 'Neutral' at Swarm'

Create '1' 'Dark Archon' for 'Neutral' at 'Swarm'

Kill '1' 'Dark Archon' owned by 'Neutral' at 'Swarm'

Clear Switch 1

Preserve Trigger.

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The reason your trigger wasn't working is because when you centered the location and removed the dark swarm it stopped the rest of the trigger from firing because the conditions are not met because the dark swarm is no longer there.

That's not true...When the conditions of a trigger are met it fires every single action no matter what. Even if the conditions are changed right after the conditions are met. And why did you pointlessly put a switch in there? I think his problem is that either 1) the 'bullet' unit is not a dark swarm. 2) His locations are wrong. 3) the dark swarm is not being cast in the location 'p1's place'

That's not true...When the conditions of a trigger are met it fires every single action no matter what. Even if the conditions are changed right after the conditions are met.
And why did you pointlessly put a switch in there?


I think his problem is that either 1) the 'bullet' unit is not a dark swarm. 2) His locations are wrong. 3) the dark swarm is not being cast in the location 'p1's place'

Did you test the test map? Also if you remove the switch from the trigger in the test map and then test it, you will see that it will not work. And after every action it fires it checks previous conditions from all the other triggers and if they are met it runs them. But you can see that my test map works with the switch but doesn't work without it.

Did you test the test map? Also if you remove the switch from the trigger in the test map and then test it, you will see that it will not work. And after every action it fires it checks previous conditions from all the other triggers and if they are met it runs them. But you can see that my test map works with the switch but doesn't work without it.

Well I'll try the map tomorrow but in the mean time: [quote=NudeRaider]...Yeah Sin's trigger works just fine...[/quote]

Well I'll try the map tomorrow but in the mean time:

Quote from NudeRaider

...Yeah Sin's trigger works just fine...

It does work, hmm I tried that exact trigger before using the switch...oh wells they both work who cares this topic is solved now :). Also, you don't require that Wait for 0 milliseconds either.

It does work, hmm I tried that exact trigger before using the switch...oh wells they both work who cares this topic is solved now . Also, you don't require that Wait for 0 milliseconds either.

This topic is not solved... It doesn't work on my map. See if you can find a different way.

This topic is not solved... It doesn't work on my map.
See if you can find a different way.