What is the best type of government? Is it capitalist, communist, socialist? Republican, democratic, aristocratic? These are just a few examples of course, but how would you see the perfext government? Mine would need to be a democratic government with it controlling needed institutions, such as hospitals, banks, and law enforcement buidlings. Laws are created by a seperate body of individuals; such that, each city ot county, or province, creates its own laws and laws concerning religion or human rights must be agreed apon by the rest of the people of government.

What is the best type of government? Is it capitalist, communist, socialist? Republican, democratic, aristocratic? These are just a few examples of course, but how would you see the perfext government?

Mine would need to be a democratic government with it controlling needed institutions, such as hospitals, banks, and law enforcement buidlings. Laws are created by a seperate body of individuals; such that, each city ot county, or province, creates its own laws and laws concerning religion or human rights must be agreed apon by the rest of the people of government.

The best form of government is dictatorship, but only if I get to be the dictator. :P

The best form of government is dictatorship, but only if I get to be the dictator.

[quote=Mini Moose 2707]The best form of government is dictatorship, but only if I get to be the dictator. :P[/quote] Dictatorship is a good form of government only if the dictator isn't horribly arrogant or horribly cruel. Why? If one person is leading the nation, the nation has one direction to move in -- that of the dictator. Stalin was able to boost Russias intellegence and literacy at an astonishing pace. And then they even beat us to space. Then you Rome, which also had a dictator, but that cause the collapse of the empire; many people stopped caring aboutthe governement since they had no say in it. Dictatorship is too extreme of a government, since it can lead a nation into prosperity or failure.

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The best form of government is dictatorship, but only if I get to be the dictator.

Dictatorship is a good form of government only if the dictator isn't horribly arrogant or horribly cruel. Why? If one person is leading the nation, the nation has one direction to move in -- that of the dictator. Stalin was able to boost Russias intellegence and literacy at an astonishing pace. And then they even beat us to space. Then you Rome, which also had a dictator, but that cause the collapse of the empire; many people stopped caring aboutthe governement since they had no say in it. Dictatorship is too extreme of a government, since it can lead a nation into prosperity or failure.

I'll start reading this later, but what I do know is this, you should have made a poll. DOH! :D

I'll start reading this later, but what I do know is this, you should have made a poll. DOH!

There is no such thing as a best government.

There is no such thing as a best government.

The countries that go from poverty to power in a short time were usually under the rule of a charasmatic (and probably a little crazy) ruler. In terms of covering ground as quickly as possible, a dictatorship or monarchy is the best bet. But in terms of stability, I'd say democracy.

The countries that go from poverty to power in a short time were usually under the rule of a charasmatic (and probably a little crazy) ruler. In terms of covering ground as quickly as possible, a dictatorship or monarchy is the best bet. But in terms of stability, I'd say democracy.

There exists the possibility of perfect government, but it all depends on who is allowed into the community. Democrats and Republicans are far too closed minded and credulous, but I am reasonably sure an anarchy could work if you got rid of the sheeple. Failing that, a federal direct democracy(your regional representative will debate on your behalf, but everyone that has actually listened to the debate has 1 vote on every issue) The media would be barred from altering the debate before showing it, and can only show it in it's entirety, the only commentary allowed between the time the debate was held, and voting would be fact checking. The time investment required of the voter would be great, so the debate and vote should be held on a holiday, and political parties would have no power during elections.

There exists the possibility of perfect government, but it all depends on who is allowed into the community. Democrats and Republicans are far too closed minded and credulous, but I am reasonably sure an anarchy could work if you got rid of the sheeple. Failing that, a federal direct democracy(your regional representative will debate on your behalf, but everyone that has actually listened to the debate has 1 vote on every issue) The media would be barred from altering the debate before showing it, and can only show it in it's entirety, the only commentary allowed between the time the debate was held, and voting would be fact checking. The time investment required of the voter would be great, so the debate and vote should be held on a holiday, and political parties would have no power during elections.

The quality of a government depends purely on it's people.

The quality of a government depends purely on it's people.

[quote=PwnPirate]The quality of a government depends purely on it's people.[/quote] And what type of people would those be? You gave a comentary statement with no supporting facts... Thus, I can't take anything you say seriously if you cannot back up or support or your own claim. [QUOTE] I am reasonably sure an anarchy could work if you got rid of the sheeple.[/QUOTE] Any government could possibly work if you get rid of the idiots; that means no idiot gets into power, no idiot obeys another idiot and so on.

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The quality of a government depends purely on it's people.

And what type of people would those be? You gave a comentary statement with no supporting facts... Thus, I can't take anything you say seriously if you cannot back up or support or your own claim.

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I am reasonably sure an anarchy could work if you got rid of the sheeple.

Any government could possibly work if you get rid of the idiots; that means no idiot gets into power, no idiot obeys another idiot and so on.

But what constitutes an idiot?

But what constitutes an idiot?

[quote=Doodan]But what constitutes an idiot?[/quote] Someone that is easily influenced by others and does not act upon her/his own free will. It has nothing to do with "intellegence" by my standards. Sorry that I did not clarify that, I thought "sheeple" had a clear connotative definition.

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But what constitutes an idiot?

Someone that is easily influenced by others and does not act upon her/his own free will. It has nothing to do with "intellegence" by my standards. Sorry that I did not clarify that, I thought "sheeple" had a clear connotative definition.

My point is that someone's perceived intelligence or lack thereof is purely subjective, since it is being judged by another imperfect human being.

My point is that someone's perceived intelligence or lack thereof is purely subjective, since it is being judged by another imperfect human being.

[quote=Doodan]My point is that someone's perceived intelligence or lack thereof is purely subjective, since it is being judged by another imperfect human being.[/quote] So is the statement "perfect government"; therefore, everything in the topic is sujected to human opinion.

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My point is that someone's perceived intelligence or lack thereof is purely subjective, since it is being judged by another imperfect human being.

So is the statement "perfect government"; therefore, everything in the topic is sujected to human opinion.

Yep. I'm just saying that someone who believes something would work "if only there weren't stupid people" isn't being very accepting of varying viewpoints.

Yep.

I'm just saying that someone who believes something would work "if only there weren't stupid people" isn't being very accepting of varying viewpoints.

[quote=Doodan]Yep. I'm just saying that someone who believes something would work "if only there weren't stupid people" isn't being very accepting of varying viewpoints.[/quote] (Yuck... I just noticed a spelling mistake in my posts.) Of course there are different viewpoints, but those differnet view points are good. And then theres the nice paradox: Calling someone arrogant makes you arrogant too.

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Yep.

I'm just saying that someone who believes something would work "if only there weren't stupid people" isn't being very accepting of varying viewpoints.

(Yuck... I just noticed a spelling mistake in my posts.) Of course there are different viewpoints, but those differnet view points are good. And then theres the nice paradox: Calling someone arrogant makes you arrogant too.

It depends on the people. If you can keep the guys in power good leaders, Dictatorship, hands down. However, since most of us are imperfect and I don't know anyone who can be trusted to run the country with no opposition, I'd say that a republic is a way to go. Fun Fact: Plato's ideal government system was something of an aristocratic monarchy ruled by a philospher-king (proving the monarchy point, philospher-king is just silly)

It depends on the people. If you can keep the guys in power good leaders, Dictatorship, hands down. However, since most of us are imperfect and I don't know anyone who can be trusted to run the country with no opposition, I'd say that a republic is a way to go.

Fun Fact: Plato's ideal government system was something of an aristocratic monarchy ruled by a philospher-king (proving the monarchy point, philospher-king is just silly)

You want a shitty government that doesn't know what they're doing half the damn time. Then you want to limit it as much as reasonably possible.

You want a shitty government that doesn't know what they're doing half the damn time.
Then you want to limit it as much as reasonably possible.

[QUOTE] And what type of people would those be? You gave a comentary statement with no supporting facts... Thus, I can't take anything you say seriously if you cannot back up or support or your own claim. [/QUOTE][QUOTE]Any government could possibly work if you get rid of the idiots; that means no idiot gets into power, no idiot obeys another idiot and so on.[/QUOTE] Well I can really say the same for you.

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And what type of people would those be? You gave a comentary statement with no supporting facts... Thus, I can't take anything you say seriously if you cannot back up or support or your own claim.

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Any government could possibly work if you get rid of the idiots; that means no idiot gets into power, no idiot obeys another idiot and so on.

Well I can really say the same for you.

[quote=A_of-s_t]And what type of people would those be? You gave a comentary statement with no supporting facts... Thus, I can't take anything you say seriously if you cannot back up or support or your own claim.[/quote] Um his point was quite obvious. The people make the government what it is. More so in a republic/democracy.

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And what type of people would those be? You gave a comentary statement with no supporting facts... Thus, I can't take anything you say seriously if you cannot back up or support or your own claim.

Um his point was quite obvious. The people make the government what it is. More so in a republic/democracy.

TRUE DEMOCRACY like the Greeks had. That's the only form of government that will EVER work properly. I wouldn't consider Capitalism a government, but Capitalism is very bad. Along with Republics. And Socialism (Which is what we are quickly heading to). In my eyes, Anarchy is the only true form of "authority" (now days) that would work. The weak would be gone, and natural selection would be reborn. Then we wouldn't have big Corporations and Rich families in power anymore.

TRUE DEMOCRACY like the Greeks had.



That's the only form of government that will EVER work properly.


I wouldn't consider Capitalism a government, but Capitalism is very bad.

Along with Republics. And Socialism (Which is what we are quickly heading to).


In my eyes, Anarchy is the only true form of "authority" (now days) that would work.

The weak would be gone, and natural selection would be reborn.



Then we wouldn't have big Corporations and Rich families in power anymore.