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omg Firefox 3
Jun 9 2008, 8:26 pm
By: SiN
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Jun 9 2008, 8:26 pm SiN Post #1



The latest testing version of Firefox 3 (Firefox 3 Release Candidate 2) has just come out for use. Check it out!

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html

I like it a lot so far. It seems faster, the new download bar is better, browser bar is better, and some cool new buttons. Definitely improving from Firefox 2.
thoughts?



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Jun 9 2008, 11:05 pm Tera Post #2



Great! It created 3 new icons. When I try to delete the other two, it wont let me.




Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Aug 31 2008, 11:42 pm by Tera.



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Jun 9 2008, 11:07 pm Brontobyte Post #3



Ew, all of my skins don't work with this new version. I hope it does not have anything wrong with it. >_>



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Jun 9 2008, 11:09 pm SiN Post #4



that's simply because the compatibility has not been updated in your skins yet.



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Jun 9 2008, 11:12 pm Brontobyte Post #5



I like how if and when you remove the Bookmark tool bar it looks similar to Internet Explorer 7... <_<

Quote from name:Extreme
Great! It created 3 new icons. When I try to delete the other two, it wont let me.

Yeah, it also created this for me to. I can't delete them either. :(

I also like the minor modification when you click and hold on a link, the box that surrounds the button you just depressed turns that color, for the most part. EX: Depressing on ones colored name, mine for instance, would create a dotted green rectangular box around my name.



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Jun 9 2008, 11:21 pm Clokr_ Post #6



Yeah and if you drag your name you can move it all around LOL



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Jun 10 2008, 12:15 am Brontobyte Post #7



I love how when you type something in to the address bar it finds a match by each letter. Try it! ^_^



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Jun 10 2008, 1:48 am FlyingHat Post #8



Aw shoot, all my nice plug-ins have been fried. Hopefully they're all updated soon.
Firefox rocks your socks. Firefox rocks your socks. Firefox rocks your socks. Firefox rocks your socks. Firefox rocks your socks.
The new browser skin isn't spectacular, but it's nice to see new stuff.



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Jun 10 2008, 3:08 am dumbducky Post #9



I think it's pretty much the same as Firefox 2 except much faster on older hardware. I'll stick with Opera 9.5.



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Jun 10 2008, 6:00 am Laser Dude Post #10



Quote from dumbducky
I think it's pretty much the same as Firefox 2 except much faster on older hardware. I'll stick with Opera 9.5.
Firefox 3 seems colossally better than Firefox 2. Unfortuntately, they are still playing catch-up with Opera, and they're still probably about a year behind (as opposed to IE, which is about 10 years behind Firefox). Firefox 3 still doesn't pass Acid3, like Safari and Opera did months ago. I've tried to make the move to Firefox several times (free software is almost always better than the proprietary alternatives, and has all sorts of advantages), but unfortunately, Firefox doesn't contain the feature set I use on a day to day basis, although Firefox doesn't use a lot of memory.



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Jun 10 2008, 6:14 am frazz Post #11



Opera?

No, Firefox.

I already got RC 1, I'll have to check this out.



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Jun 10 2008, 5:28 pm dumbducky Post #12



I've seen that graph before. And you know what? When I've got 2GB of memory, I could care less if I save 50MB. I only really have two programs up when browsing the internet, and they don't even use 50% of my memory. So what do I care if it could start up in a second less? It's already plenty fast enough.



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Jun 10 2008, 8:43 pm chuiu Post #13



Quote from Laser Dude
Quote from dumbducky
I think it's pretty much the same as Firefox 2 except much faster on older hardware. I'll stick with Opera 9.5.
Firefox 3 seems colossally better than Firefox 2. Unfortuntately, they are still playing catch-up with Opera, and they're still probably about a year behind (as opposed to IE, which is about 10 years behind Firefox). Firefox 3 still doesn't pass Acid3, like Safari and Opera did months ago. I've tried to make the move to Firefox several times (free software is almost always better than the proprietary alternatives, and has all sorts of advantages), but unfortunately, Firefox doesn't contain the feature set I use on a day to day basis, although Firefox doesn't use a lot of memory.

I just downloaded the latest Opera beta and did a test on both browsers. While Opera scores more than Firefox (78/100 compared to Firefox's 71/100) they both fail to pass the test. This may be a huge improvement over Opera 9.27 where the browser actually crashes half the time and gets 46 when it doesn't but its still barely better than Firefox.

I used Firefox 3 release candidate 2 build 2008052903 and Opera 9.5 b2 build 9945.

http://acid3.acidtests.org/

Now that thats out of the way, what are the features found in Opera that aren't present in Firefox or an addon for Firefox?



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Jun 10 2008, 8:46 pm dumbducky Post #14



Opera did it with an internal build. I don't think they released it.



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Jun 10 2008, 9:22 pm chuiu Post #15



Quote from dumbducky
Opera did it with an internal build. I don't think they released it.
Well if you don't have it then it doesn't exactly count does it? Also, could you answer my question, I'm curious.



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Jun 10 2008, 10:08 pm Money Post #16



Quote from name:Extreme
Great! It created 3 new icons. When I try to delete the other two, it wont let me.

Just use command line to delete them...

Quote from Brontobyte
I like how if and when you remove the Bookmark tool bar it looks similar to Internet Explorer 7... <_<

I also like the minor modification when you click and hold on a link, the box that surrounds the button you just depressed turns that color, for the most part. EX: Depressing on ones colored name, mine for instance, would create a dotted green rectangular box around my name.

To make up for that - when you highlight and drag text (or images) they follow. =)



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Jun 10 2008, 10:19 pm ~:Deathawk:~ Post #17



Quote from chuiu
Quote from dumbducky
Opera did it with an internal build. I don't think they released it.
Well if you don't have it then it doesn't exactly count does it? Also, could you answer my question, I'm curious.
The main thing on Opera that I appreciate is I can do searches on any different kind of search engine I want without needing the mouse at all.
For example, if I want to search wikipedia, I just hit control t, and type in "wiki ____", where wiki can be replaced with whatever you want. Google, I just do Control+T, and then type "g ____". No mouse required at all. I don't know how firefox works, but I don't it doesn't come like that as default. As far as I know, Opera also wins in security, but that could be different now. I would say that the Browsers are really about equal for general browsing though. Firefox wins in extensions, I'd say.

Either way, I have used both plenty and prefer Opera. It has given me a better browsing experience, so much to the point that it'd be my choice almost every time. It comes with it's drawbacks though. It does crash a good amount, especially when I open up gmail :(



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Jun 10 2008, 10:34 pm chuiu Post #18



If you open a tab in Firefox and type anything in the box it will do a google search and if the results are relevant enough it will take you a site for it. If its not relevant enough it will take you to the google search of it.

Example: Starcraft shows you a google search of Starcraft. Starcraft wiki shows you the Starcraft wiki at Wikia. Wiki Starcraft shows you the Wikipedia article for Starcraft. Ebay Starcraft shows an Ebay search for Starcraft Battle Chest (probably the most common Starcraft thing searched for).

It doesn't give you as much freedom as Opera but it functions just as well.



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Jun 10 2008, 10:51 pm Laser Dude Post #19



Quote from chuiu
I just downloaded the latest Opera beta and did a test on both browsers. While Opera scores more than Firefox (78/100 compared to Firefox's 71/100) they both fail to pass the test. This may be a huge improvement over Opera 9.27 where the browser actually crashes half the time and gets 46 when it doesn't but its still barely better than Firefox.
I'm talking about the unstable builds of their renderers. Opera has released an unstable build on their renderer, which passes 100/100 on the Acid 3, and so has Webkit. Gecko still has not. Opera beta may sound like an unstable build, but it's actually a pretty thoroughly tested build.

Quote from chuiu
Now that thats out of the way, what are the features found in Opera that aren't present in Firefox or an addon for Firefox?
First off, why would I want to download addons? Why should I need to spend hours of my time going to sites, downloading shady executables, just in order to use a basic browser? Addons do not count in a browser's features.

Custom panels and links on those panels is the biggest feature I use. I like to get rid of buttons that don't do anything, like home, and why do you need a stop button AND a refresh button at the same time..? I also like to link to all the sites I use commonly there, simply by dragging and dropping from the URL bar.

Quick search is also a big one. Right click any form, and click create search. Now, just by typing one word (or letter), you can run a search on any site, anywhere. I've got one set up for countless sites that I often use.

I don't know why, but in Firefox, tabs always open in the background, and there's no way to create a new tab without first going into the menus.

Speed Dial (gives you several links within a new tab) and Opera Link (allows you to use the same favourites and settings across multiple machines) are useful, ingenious features.

Quote from dumbducky
Opera did it with an internal build. I don't think they released it.
They did. http://labs.opera.com/news/2008/03/28/



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Jun 10 2008, 11:42 pm stickynote Post #20



Sometimes, it's faster than firefox 2, but at other times (ie. facebook), it seems to be slower than firefox 2 on my comp.



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