[img]http://www.panschk.de/mappage/EPICA.jpg[/img] Quote from the BWMN Thread: [quote=Lancet]My first and probably last 8 player map designed for long "epic" drawn out battles over large distances where you may reach a control of 200 several times (if you survive). The island mains have, of course, the advantage that they do not have to worry about attacks by land. To compensate for this I placed a 32 mineral block in their in-main gas expo, let me know if you think if this is too much or too little. The rest of the islands have an 8 mineral block. Corner and central expos are double gas. I incorporated elements and ideas from Falkoners Terrain Compilation from Staredit.net and Testbug's map "Endless fields. Let me know (nicely)what you think and how I can improve the map, thanks.[/quote] Due to registration issues Lancet could not post this topic and he asked me to do it for him. Map is available at: http://www.panschk.de/mappage/(8)EPICA(n).scm

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My first and probably last 8 player map designed for long "epic" drawn out battles over large distances where you may reach a control of 200 several times (if you survive). The island mains have, of course, the advantage that they do not have to worry about attacks by land. To compensate for this I placed a 32 mineral block in their in-main gas expo, let me know if you think if this is too much or too little. The rest of the islands have an 8 mineral block. Corner and central expos are double gas.

I incorporated elements and ideas from Falkoners Terrain Compilation from Staredit.net and Testbug's map "Endless fields.

Let me know (nicely)what you think and how I can improve the map, thanks.

Due to registration issues Lancet could not post this topic and he asked me to do it for him.

Map is available at: http://www.panschk.de/mappage/(8)EPICA(n).scm

The more epic 8 player maps I find the better!

The more epic 8 player maps I find the better!

Ill be posting a pack of them for mod night.

Ill be posting a pack of them for mod night.

This looks orgasmic, we must play this TONIGHT!

This looks orgasmic, we must play this TONIGHT!

It looks great. I've got one comment though, after a quick look. I don't think the main bases are all equal in defence quality. Red and Orange only have a little high ground next to their expo which is especially bad for Terrans (STanks). Green and Purple have an enourmous large high ground field, though. I would try to make the main bases' ground more equal with about the same amount of space and the same amount of high ground next to their expo's.

It looks great.

I've got one comment though, after a quick look.
I don't think the main bases are all equal in defence quality. Red and Orange only have a little high ground next to their expo which is especially bad for Terrans (STanks). Green and Purple have an enourmous large high ground field, though.
I would try to make the main bases' ground more equal with about the same amount of space and the same amount of high ground next to their expo's.

[color=#CE091D]The map was so fucking sexy that I eyaculated too soon the last mod night and I had to leave :([/color]

The map was so fucking sexy that I eyaculated too soon the last mod night and I had to leave

EPICA is indeed, epic :P Was a lot of fun at mod night!

EPICA is indeed, epic

Was a lot of fun at mod night!

Ehh, looks nice, but doesn't seem so great. Two players are stranded on islands, and they have mineral blocks in their nats. Now wtf? Also, player 4 and 3 could grab all expos without even trying. If they were allies, holy shit they would rape. Imbalanced, sorry to say. :|

Ehh, looks nice, but doesn't seem so great. Two players are stranded on islands, and they have mineral blocks in their nats. Now wtf? Also, player 4 and 3 could grab all expos without even trying. If they were allies, holy shit they would rape. Imbalanced, sorry to say.

Nobody plays 8 player maps As for the map, its quite bad and heres why 1. He used square terrain in a melee map, and thats okay. but you have made it obvious. 2. Having extended cliffs is just a nuisance , 3. player locations are always random and he has set this map up like 1 team is going to be on 1 side and thats not going to happen. unless you have nub z who play this map like that zerg cutler map or w/e its called 4. its a 8 player map.

Nobody plays 8 player maps

As for the map, its quite bad and heres why
1. He used square terrain in a melee map, and thats okay. but you have made it obvious.
2. Having extended cliffs is just a nuisance ,
3. player locations are always random and he has set this map up like 1 team is going to be on 1 side and thats not going to happen. unless you have nub z who play this map like that zerg cutler map or w/e its called
4. its a 8 player map.

This map isnt for 1v1. It is a special case created BY REQUEST for MM's mod night.

This map isnt for 1v1. It is a special case created BY REQUEST for MM's mod night.

[quote=name:Excalibur]for MM's mod night.[/quote] Read: it's not designed to be balanced for StarCraft, or for decent melee players.

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for MM's mod night.

Read: it's not designed to be balanced for StarCraft, or for decent melee players.

Well then why the hell is this in the melee maps section of SEN? The only people that are going to be looking at this are melee map makers and melee players, so it's going to get any good feedback. :<_<:

Well then why the hell is this in the melee maps section of SEN? The only people that are going to be looking at this are melee map makers and melee players, so it's going to get any good feedback.

[quote=name:Dem0nS1ayer]Well then why the hell is this in the melee maps section of SEN? The only people that are going to be looking at this are melee map makers and melee players, so it's going to get any good feedback. :<_<:[/quote] Because it's a melee map. And look at all the positive AND negative feedback it got. I'd say it worked out fine. Maybe others will want it as well. [quote=name:Dem0nS1ayer]Ehh, looks nice, but doesn't seem so great. Two players are stranded on islands, and they have mineral blocks in their nats. Now wtf? Also, player 4 and 3 could grab all expos without even trying. If they were allies, holy shit they would rape. Imbalanced, sorry to say. :|[/quote] I'd assume the mineral block is to prevent a cheeky player from the mainland or opposing island from cc lifting over to it early on, or something silly like that. And I don't see how teal and purp are so overpowered.... it looks like there's plenty of wide ramps to access their plateau from There's no way they could block an assault everywhere at once... it's huge. I also assume this map is to be played with 8 players only, probably. Teams would be fun (imagine one of each team in each corner) or ffa would be far enough from everyone else that you don't expect to be completely owned right off except by one other player. I'd say this is ideal for casual players. And I think the map is interesting, if not balanced. So it's good for fun, though tweaks are always good. off-topic: This map reminded me a bit of an old melee project I wanted to make... I wonder if anyone would be interested in taking it from me, as I don't know enough about imba issues... basically there'd be two versions... the map would be Islands in opposing corners, and a mainland like this one, and one version would have you start on the mainland, and one on the islands. Probably a 4 or 6 player map. If there's an obvious imba, pm me. Maybe I'd work on the idea a bit and make a thread on it, for others to consider making.

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Well then why the hell is this in the melee maps section of SEN? The only people that are going to be looking at this are melee map makers and melee players, so it's going to get any good feedback.

Because it's a melee map. And look at all the positive AND negative feedback it got. I'd say it worked out fine. Maybe others will want it as well.

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Ehh, looks nice, but doesn't seem so great. Two players are stranded on islands, and they have mineral blocks in their nats. Now wtf? Also, player 4 and 3 could grab all expos without even trying. If they were allies, holy shit they would rape. Imbalanced, sorry to say.

I'd assume the mineral block is to prevent a cheeky player from the mainland or opposing island from cc lifting over to it early on, or something silly like that. And I don't see how teal and purp are so overpowered.... it looks like there's plenty of wide ramps to access their plateau from There's no way they could block an assault everywhere at once... it's huge.

I also assume this map is to be played with 8 players only, probably. Teams would be fun (imagine one of each team in each corner) or ffa would be far enough from everyone else that you don't expect to be completely owned right off except by one other player. I'd say this is ideal for casual players. And I think the map is interesting, if not balanced. So it's good for fun, though tweaks are always good.

off-topic:
This map reminded me a bit of an old melee project I wanted to make... I wonder if anyone would be interested in taking it from me, as I don't know enough about imba issues... basically there'd be two versions... the map would be Islands in opposing corners, and a mainland like this one, and one version would have you start on the mainland, and one on the islands. Probably a 4 or 6 player map. If there's an obvious imba, pm me. Maybe I'd work on the idea a bit and make a thread on it, for others to consider making.

[quote=name:Dem0nS1ayer]The only people that are going to be looking at this are melee map makers and melee players[/quote] [quote=name:IskatuMesk]The more epic 8 player maps I find the better![/quote] [quote=name:Excalibur]Ill be posting a pack of them for mod night.[/quote] [quote=name:ClansAreForGays]This looks orgasmic, we must play this TONIGHT![/quote] [quote=name:Phobos][color=#CE091D]The map was so fucking sexy that I eyaculated too soon the last mod night and I had to leave :([/color][/quote] [quote=name:Polaris]EPICA is indeed, epic :P Was a lot of fun at mod night![/quote] LOLWUT

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The only people that are going to be looking at this are melee map makers and melee players

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The more epic 8 player maps I find the better!

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Ill be posting a pack of them for mod night.

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This looks orgasmic, we must play this TONIGHT!

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The map was so fucking sexy that I eyaculated too soon the last mod night and I had to leave

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EPICA is indeed, epic

Was a lot of fun at mod night!

LOLWUT

WOW NICE TERRAIN! this one is awesome.... how long did you need to make this?

WOW NICE TERRAIN! this one is awesome....
how long did you need to make this?

Read the post. It wasn't made by Ex, and clearly, stop reviving topics.

Read the post. It wasn't made by Ex, and clearly, stop reviving topics.