[QUOTE]How would he find two of each animal, both genders, and bring them on a ship that would be as big, if not bigger, then the Titanic? Most of the animals, insects, and others, don't even live on the same continent. How would he provied enough food for them? Even if he somehow managed to do all of this, what if one of the animals were steril? O_o'[/QUOTE] 1.That was Noah not Moses. 2. Possible that all the animals were living around that area. 3. The size of the ark was gigantic so it could of fit them all. Being all that God is perfect at math. 4. A GIANT CAKE. 5. Probably had luck and picked out all of them that weren't sterile.

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How would he find two of each animal, both genders, and bring them on a ship that would be as big, if not bigger, then the Titanic? Most of the animals, insects, and others, don't even live on the same continent. How would he provied enough food for them?

Even if he somehow managed to do all of this, what if one of the animals were steril? O_o'

1.That was Noah not Moses.
2. Possible that all the animals were living around that area.
3. The size of the ark was gigantic so it could of fit them all. Being all that God is perfect at math.
4. A GIANT CAKE.
5. Probably had luck and picked out all of them that weren't sterile.

Would anyone care to tell me what the point of this topic is...?

Would anyone care to tell me what the point of this topic is...?

[quote=Dapperdan]Would anyone care to tell me what the point of this topic is...?[/quote] The second a topic on religion and science was posted, the second it leads to major disaster.

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Would anyone care to tell me what the point of this topic is...?

The second a topic on religion and science was posted, the second it leads to major disaster.

[quote=JordanN][quote=Syphon][quote=JordanN][quote=Syphon] The Bible is full of lies and mistruths, accourding to this divine book I found in the woods. Prove that it's wrong.[/quote] So, you want to me prove that it's not full of lies and mistruths ? Well, that's a long list but I prefer if you pick first.[/quote] No, just prove Genesis. The other books are of no consequence.[/quote] Ok. Lets see. "In the beginning". As we all know there has to be a beginning to everything. Done.[/quote] [IMG=http://www.fstdt.com/winace/pics/question_begging.jpg] [IMG=http://www.fstdt.com/winace/pics/o_logic.jpg]

Devilesk, your pictures a worth 1000 words! HAHAHA! Where do you find this stuff? [quote=cheeze][quote]How can God, this almighty being, create life? Look at a chimpanzee. You can't sit their and tell me that they don't look even simular to a human. If you do, your just a simplistic idiot. :D Everything out their, every natural/unnatural phenomena can be explained by science, or some creep that believes The Man is behind everything, and just for shits and giggles is trying to cover it up.[/quote] All right. Explain the uncertainty principle: Explain how a particle can know the future. Explain how objects can be at two places at once. Explain how light can interfere with [i]itself[/i]. Since science is so powerful, where are the explanations?[/quote] Do I look like a scientist to you? O_o' This is getting out of hand. I like it.

Devilesk, your pictures a worth 1000 words! HAHAHA! Where do you find this stuff?

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How can God, this almighty being, create life? Look at a chimpanzee. You can't sit their and tell me that they don't look even simular to a human. If you do, your just a simplistic idiot. Everything out their, every natural/unnatural phenomena can be explained by science, or some creep that believes The Man is behind everything, and just for shits and giggles is trying to cover it up.

All right. Explain the uncertainty principle: Explain how a particle can know the future. Explain how objects can be at two places at once. Explain how light can interfere with itself.

Since science is so powerful, where are the explanations?

Do I look like a scientist to you? O_o'

This is getting out of hand. I like it.

[quote=Brontobyte]Devilesk, your pictures a worth 1000 words! HAHAHA! Where do you find this stuff?[/quote] Thank you, at least someone appreciates them. http://www.fstdt.com/winace/pics/index.htm Drunken gave me the link.

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Devilesk, your pictures a worth 1000 words! HAHAHA! Where do you find this stuff?

Thank you, at least someone appreciates them.

http://www.fstdt.com/winace/pics/index.htm

Drunken gave me the link.

[quote=Dapperdan]Would anyone care to tell me what the point of this topic is...?[/quote] It was about the scopes trial, a very interesting topic i'll daresay since I also did an english project about it. Unfortunately, people have turned this into an unwanted creationism vs evolution topic -_-

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Would anyone care to tell me what the point of this topic is...?

It was about the scopes trial, a very interesting topic i'll daresay since I also did an english project about it. Unfortunately, people have turned this into an unwanted creationism vs evolution topic -_-

[quote=MillenniumArmy][quote=Dapperdan]Would anyone care to tell me what the point of this topic is...?[/quote] It was about the scopes trial, a very interesting topic i'll daresay since I also did an english project about it. Unfortunately, people have turned this into an unwanted creationism vs evolution topic -_-[/quote] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopes_monkey_trial

[quote=devilesk][quote=Brontobyte]Devilesk, your pictures a worth 1000 words! HAHAHA! Where do you find this stuff?[/quote] Thank you, at least someone appreciates them. http://www.fstdt.com/winace/pics/index.htm Drunken gave me the link.[/quote] No problem. With work like that, you diserve a pat on teh back! :D /me pats devilesk on the back. [quote=MillenniumArmy][quote=Dapperdan]Would anyone care to tell me what the point of this topic is...?[/quote] It was about the scopes trial, a very interesting topic i'll daresay since I also did an english project about it. Unfortunately, people have turned this into an unwanted creationism vs evolution topic -_-[/quote] Actually, I knew that this topic would cause a mess, that was the whole idea. I wanted to see what others had to say on the topic. Of course when bringing ones religion into the situation, people tend to freak out. Please don't lock us out. :(

[quote=devilesk][quote=Brontobyte]Devilesk, your pictures a worth 1000 words! HAHAHA! Where do you find this stuff?[/quote]
Thank you, at least someone appreciates them.

http://www.fstdt.com/winace/pics/index.htm

Drunken gave me the link.[/quote]

No problem. With work like that, you diserve a pat on teh back! * Brontobyte pats devilesk on the back.

[quote=MillenniumArmy][quote=Dapperdan]Would anyone care to tell me what the point of this topic is...?[ *quote]
It was about the scopes trial, a very interesting topic i'll daresay since I also did an english project about it. Unfortunately, people have turned this into an unwanted creationism vs evolution topic -_-[/quote]

Actually, I knew that this topic would cause a mess, that was the whole idea. I wanted to see what others had to say on the topic. Of course when bringing ones religion into the situation, people tend to freak out.

Please don't lock us out.

[quote=cheeze][quote]How can God, this almighty being, create life? Look at a chimpanzee. You can't sit their and tell me that they don't look even simular to a human. If you do, your just a simplistic idiot. :D Everything out their, every natural/unnatural phenomena can be explained by science, or some creep that believes The Man is behind everything, and just for shits and giggles is trying to cover it up.[/quote] All right. Explain the uncertainty principle: Explain how a particle can know the future. Explain how objects can be at two places at once. Explain how light can interfere with [i]itself[/i]. Since science is so powerful, where are the explanations?[/quote] The uncertainty principle IS the explanation. If you're going to ask US for scientific proof, you have to be willing to give it out. Jordann, design a ship 300 feet long and 200 feet high of timber, and make it not collapse under its own weight.

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How can God, this almighty being, create life? Look at a chimpanzee. You can't sit their and tell me that they don't look even simular to a human. If you do, your just a simplistic idiot. Everything out their, every natural/unnatural phenomena can be explained by science, or some creep that believes The Man is behind everything, and just for shits and giggles is trying to cover it up.

All right. Explain the uncertainty principle: Explain how a particle can know the future. Explain how objects can be at two places at once. Explain how light can interfere with itself.

Since science is so powerful, where are the explanations?

The uncertainty principle IS the explanation. If you're going to ask US for scientific proof, you have to be willing to give it out.

Jordann, design a ship 300 feet long and 200 feet high of timber, and make it not collapse under its own weight.

[quote=MillenniumArmy][quote=Dapperdan]Would anyone care to tell me what the point of this topic is...?[/quote] It was about the scopes trial, a very interesting topic i'll daresay since I also did an english project about it. Unfortunately, people have turned this into an unwanted creationism vs evolution topic -_-[/quote] It wasn't interesting at all, it was just another of thousands of examples of the non-secularity of the US.

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Would anyone care to tell me what the point of this topic is...?

It was about the scopes trial, a very interesting topic i'll daresay since I also did an english project about it. Unfortunately, people have turned this into an unwanted creationism vs evolution topic -_-

It wasn't interesting at all, it was just another of thousands of examples of the non-secularity of the US.

[quote=Syphon][quote=cheeze][quote]How can God, this almighty being, create life? Look at a chimpanzee. You can't sit their and tell me that they don't look even simular to a human. If you do, your just a simplistic idiot. :D Everything out their, every natural/unnatural phenomena can be explained by science, or some creep that believes The Man is behind everything, and just for shits and giggles is trying to cover it up.[/quote] All right. Explain the uncertainty principle: Explain how a particle can know the future. Explain how objects can be at two places at once. Explain how light can interfere with [i]itself[/i]. Since science is so powerful, where are the explanations?[/quote] The uncertainty principle IS the explanation. If you're going to ask US for scientific proof, you have to be willing to give it out. Jordann, design a ship 300 feet long and 200 feet high of timber, and make it not collapse under its own weight.[/quote] Too bad even if you prove that the acts in the bible did occur that does not prove that god caused those acts.

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How can God, this almighty being, create life? Look at a chimpanzee. You can't sit their and tell me that they don't look even simular to a human. If you do, your just a simplistic idiot. Everything out their, every natural/unnatural phenomena can be explained by science, or some creep that believes The Man is behind everything, and just for shits and giggles is trying to cover it up.

All right. Explain the uncertainty principle: Explain how a particle can know the future. Explain how objects can be at two places at once. Explain how light can interfere with itself.

Since science is so powerful, where are the explanations?

The uncertainty principle IS the explanation. If you're going to ask US for scientific proof, you have to be willing to give it out.

Jordann, design a ship 300 feet long and 200 feet high of timber, and make it not collapse under its own weight.

Too bad even if you prove that the acts in the bible did occur that does not prove that god caused those acts.

[quote=devilesk][quote=Syphon][quote=cheeze][quote]How can God, this almighty being, create life? Look at a chimpanzee. You can't sit their and tell me that they don't look even simular to a human. If you do, your just a simplistic idiot. :D Everything out their, every natural/unnatural phenomena can be explained by science, or some creep that believes The Man is behind everything, and just for shits and giggles is trying to cover it up.[/quote] All right. Explain the uncertainty principle: Explain how a particle can know the future. Explain how objects can be at two places at once. Explain how light can interfere with [i]itself[/i]. Since science is so powerful, where are the explanations?[/quote] The uncertainty principle IS the explanation. If you're going to ask US for scientific proof, you have to be willing to give it out. Jordann, design a ship 300 feet long and 200 feet high of timber, and make it not collapse under its own weight.[/quote] Too bad even if you prove that the acts in the bible did occur that does not prove that god caused those acts.[/quote] What's that? ANOTHER NAIL IN GOD'S COFFIN?

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How can God, this almighty being, create life? Look at a chimpanzee. You can't sit their and tell me that they don't look even simular to a human. If you do, your just a simplistic idiot. Everything out their, every natural/unnatural phenomena can be explained by science, or some creep that believes The Man is behind everything, and just for shits and giggles is trying to cover it up.

All right. Explain the uncertainty principle: Explain how a particle can know the future. Explain how objects can be at two places at once. Explain how light can interfere with itself.

Since science is so powerful, where are the explanations?

The uncertainty principle IS the explanation. If you're going to ask US for scientific proof, you have to be willing to give it out.

Jordann, design a ship 300 feet long and 200 feet high of timber, and make it not collapse under its own weight.

Too bad even if you prove that the acts in the bible did occur that does not prove that god caused those acts.

What's that? ANOTHER NAIL IN GOD'S COFFIN?

Here's a wild one, Who created God? Hmmm? Himself? Gods uncle, Zuse?

Here's a wild one,

Who created God? Hmmm? Himself? Gods uncle, Zuse?

No, God can just "exist" without having a creator even though the universe can't. LULZ

No, God can just "exist" without having a creator even though the universe can't. LULZ

lol @ a universe just existing... with a past time line going into infinity, all the events that are happening now would have happened infinite seconds ago... am i right? :)

lol @ a universe just existing...
with a past time line going into infinity, all the events that are happening now would have happened infinite seconds ago...
am i right?

Well, I would like to see what "Mr. High and Mighty" would have to say to that. [quote=isolatedpurity]lol @ a universe just existing... with a past time line going into infinity, all the events that are happening now would have happened infinite seconds ago... am i right? :)[/quote] Im confused. You mean to say that what is happening now, could/should of happend in any amount of time, in the past? The Earth has only been here for ~4.6 Billion years. Im not sure how long the universe has, but I know that the universe is expanding every second of everyday. It is just mind bogaling to try and figure out how big it actualy is. Keep in mind its moving really really fast.

Well, I would like to see what "Mr. High and Mighty" would have to say to that.

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lol @ a universe just existing...
with a past time line going into infinity, all the events that are happening now would have happened infinite seconds ago...
am i right?

Im confused. You mean to say that what is happening now, could/should of happend in any amount of time, in the past? The Earth has only been here for ~4.6 Billion years. Im not sure how long the universe has, but I know that the universe is expanding every second of everyday. It is just mind bogaling to try and figure out how big it actualy is. Keep in mind its moving really really fast.

[quote=isolatedpurity]lol @ a universe just existing... with a past time line going into infinity, all the events that are happening now would have happened infinite seconds ago... am i right? :)[/quote] No. A past time line going to infinity doesn't imply a future one. And anyways... If they're happening now they're present, not past. Things very similar could have happened a definite number of seconds ago, even as the number of seconds approaches infinity, but they're still different events, no matter how similar, even identical they are. lim[SUB][s→-∞][/SUB] A ≠ B for all B ≝ A.

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lol @ a universe just existing...
with a past time line going into infinity, all the events that are happening now would have happened infinite seconds ago...
am i right?

No. A past time line going to infinity doesn't imply a future one. And anyways... If they're happening now they're present, not past. Things very similar could have happened a definite number of seconds ago, even as the number of seconds approaches infinity, but they're still different events, no matter how similar, even identical they are.

lim_[s→-∞] A ≠ B for all B ≝ A.

My philosophy: Don't mess with Voyager or Syphon. Voyager's too popular, Syphon's always right. More on topic, Creationism is a ridiculous idea, just as ridiculous as God existing. What, God created everything once, then just left it, never to repeat any other miracle?

My philosophy: Don't mess with Voyager or Syphon. Voyager's too popular, Syphon's always right.

More on topic, Creationism is a ridiculous idea, just as ridiculous as God existing. What, God created everything once, then just left it, never to repeat any other miracle?

I disagree. On simple logic. Everything takes time. The decay of paper takes however many years. But in order for that paper to start to decay, it needs to be made first. In order to make it, you need someone to chop down a tree. The tree needs to grow. No event can just exist in the time line, they need pre-existing conditions. If you move backward in an infinite time line, it defeats time all together because there was infinite seconds for those conditions to have already occurred, pushing back every event infinite seconds. If you say it started with the big bang, what made the big bang occur? Those conditions had infinite seconds to meet, and would have met infinite seconds ago. So unless you want to create theories (or believe in the ones that exist) about some starting point making time planes and blah blah blah, the universe could not have just existed ;/

I disagree. On simple logic. Everything takes time. The decay of paper takes however many years. But in order for that paper to start to decay, it needs to be made first. In order to make it, you need someone to chop down a tree. The tree needs to grow. No event can just exist in the time line, they need pre-existing conditions. If you move backward in an infinite time line, it defeats time all together because there was infinite seconds for those conditions to have already occurred, pushing back every event infinite seconds.
If you say it started with the big bang, what made the big bang occur? Those conditions had infinite seconds to meet, and would have met infinite seconds ago.
So unless you want to create theories (or believe in the ones that exist) about some starting point making time planes and blah blah blah, the universe could not have just existed ;/