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It seemed simple enough to update so I tried replacing the jquery files with newer ones. Except for jqueryui, I have no idea how that thing works and I don't know Javascript or what packages to use. Anyway, hopefully nothing breaks.

Not sure if SEN became faster by doing that (if it did, I don't notice it at least), but now I have to manually refresh the page every time I go back (e.g. to the forum index). Alternatively I'd have to klick on the forum index link each time. Both is inconvenient for me. Can you change that or revert back to the old jquery?

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It seemed simple enough to update so I tried replacing the jquery files with newer ones. Except for jqueryui, I have no idea how that thing works and I don't know Javascript or what packages to use. Anyway, hopefully nothing breaks.

Not sure if SEN became faster by doing that (if it did, I don't notice it at least), but now I have to manually refresh the page every time I go back (e.g. to the forum index). Alternatively I'd have to klick on the forum index link each time. Both is inconvenient for me. Can you change that or revert back to the old jquery?

In addition the "next" "previous" and "close" buttons on image popups don't work anymore. Can you please undo it?

Changed it back. I don't see why upgrading it would break things, but my guess is that whoever coded that part of SEN must have put some customizations into jquery, so the stock version was missing some of our stuff. If anyone wants to modify the newest jquery stuff to suit SEN and provide it to me, I'll upload that.

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It seemed simple enough to update so I tried replacing the jquery files with newer ones. Except for jqueryui, I have no idea how that thing works and I don't know Javascript or what packages to use. Anyway, hopefully nothing breaks.

Not sure if SEN became faster by doing that (if it did, I don't notice it at least), but now I have to manually refresh the page every time I go back (e.g. to the forum index). Alternatively I'd have to klick on the forum index link each time. Both is inconvenient for me. Can you change that or revert back to the old jquery?

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Quote from Mini Moose 2707

It seemed simple enough to update so I tried replacing the jquery files with newer ones. Except for jqueryui, I have no idea how that thing works and I don't know Javascript or what packages to use. Anyway, hopefully nothing breaks.

Not sure if SEN became faster by doing that (if it did, I don't notice it at least), but now I have to manually refresh the page every time I go back (e.g. to the forum index). Alternatively I'd have to klick on the forum index link each time. Both is inconvenient for me. Can you change that or revert back to the old jquery?

In addition the "next" "previous" and "close" buttons on image popups don't work anymore. Can you please undo it?

Changed it back. I don't see why upgrading it would break things, but my guess is that whoever coded that part of SEN must have put some customizations into jquery, so the stock version was missing some of our stuff. If anyone wants to modify the newest jquery stuff to suit SEN and provide it to me, I'll upload that.

It'd be retarded to customize jquery itself, there was probably some poor coding involved but look at my previous post for a probable fix

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Changed it back.

Thanks, that fixed it. Everything back to normal again.

Custom jQuery extensions would be external to the jQuery library itself. You can extend it at any time by setting $.fn.whateverFunction and then you can call that on any jQuery set.

My dialog box code is old and could easily be done better now. That probably has something to do with it.

This isn't a bug or anything, but I've updated the Raffle and made some changes to it. There is no longer a starting amount on it. The jackpot is based solely on participants in the Raffle. Tickets are now 15 minerals, and 10 of that is added to the pot. The rest is the same.

So pretty much if you are the only participant you lose 5 minerals and if there are two participants you get 5 or lose 15... I dont think thats how thats supposed to work. There should be at least a 30 mineral starting jackpot. Otherwise there would be no (logical) reason to play the raffle at all.

I don't plan to have a starting jackpot on there any more. All the minerals earned will be from other members gambling them. I got tired of seeing people make thousands of minerals for doing nothing.

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This isn't a bug or anything, but I've updated the Raffle and made some changes to it. There is no longer a starting amount on it. The jackpot is based solely on participants in the Raffle. Tickets are now 15 minerals, and 10 of that is added to the pot. The rest is the same.

Last time I checked, there were 6 participants and a jackpot of 60. And the current raffle had 2 participants and a 70 jackpot. Something's wrong.

Fixed. Also reset the ticket price to 10 for the next round. The Magic Boxes really are enough of a money sink as is.

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Fixed. Also reset the ticket price to 10 for the next round. The Magic Boxes really are enough of a money sink as is.

So it now costs 10 minerals for a ticket?

Yes. 10 for a ticket, and it adds 10 to the jackpot. The starting jackpot is still 0.

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This isn't a bug or anything, but I've updated the Raffle and made some changes to it. There is no longer a starting amount on it. The jackpot is based solely on participants in the Raffle. Tickets are now 15 minerals, and 10 of that is added to the pot. The rest is the same.

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So pretty much if you are the only participant you lose 5 minerals and if there are two participants you get 5 or lose 15... I dont think thats how thats supposed to work. There should be at least a 30 mineral starting jackpot. Otherwise there would be no (logical) reason to play the raffle at all.

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I don't plan to have a starting jackpot on there any more. All the minerals earned will be from other members gambling them. I got tired of seeing people make thousands of minerals for doing nothing.

Well, these posts inspired me to do a rigorous analysis of the mathematics behind the raffle's average returns.

http://staredit.net/moose/raffle.pdf if anyone is interested. Playing the current iteration of the raffle (no starting jackpot, 10 minerals to play, 10 minerals added to jackpot per ticket) will cause players to break even on average, as one may have inferred from those numbers.

I love you moose.

Interesting stuff, Moose.

Dat Moose. Nice.

Yeah the original raffle was awesome when there were so few players in it, too bad I would always lose my 20 minerals on magic boxes before i could play. I like the current raffle because there is a 10 mineral buy-in so it comes before the magic boxes .

Devlins variation would have worked just fine with the 30 mineral starting jackpot like i suggested but I'm glad we changed it to the current style.

I do miss the old system but since I was never able to take advantage of it I prefer the current one more.

Azrael did some PM updates for us:

• "Reply to All" is now the default response button for a group PM (replacing the broken "Reply to Group").
  
• A notification appears when you run out of PM space that will not go away until you make room.
  
• When running out of PM space, you are allowed to receive a maximum of 10 PMs more (just so you don't miss anything in case someone sends something important to you), but you'll still have to make space to remove the notification and after that 10 PM buffer, you won't be able to receive any more.
  

Someone suggested that Minerals replace CPoints on the Members list, so I finally went ahead and changed that.

Can we get someone to allow the forum to support encasing within an encasement?