Well I finally got done with total invisible defense.Now I want to make it better,beyond the limits,and well get back into modding. In order to that though I need a average question answered :p.How do you make your mpq implemented into your map =[?Like Laser_Dude has in his black hole map.

Well I finally got done with total invisible defense.Now I want to make it better,beyond the limits,and well get back into modding.
In order to that though I need a average question answered .How do you make your mpq implemented into your map =[?Like Laser_Dude has in his black hole map.

Open the map with winmpq.

Open the map with winmpq.

Thanks Killer_Kow now after toying around abit I see how this can be fun.Although reworking some of these triggers is a pain :/. Another question though is there any limits to this besides the modding limits?Or am I free to mod away?

Thanks Killer_Kow now after toying around abit I see how this can be fun.Although reworking some of these triggers is a pain :/.
Another question though is there any limits to this besides the modding limits?Or am I free to mod away?

you can do anything you can with a normal mod

you can do anything you can with a normal mod

[quote=someone09]you can do anything you can with a normal mod[/quote] This of course depends on your version, though. I don't beleive the current version of SCMLoader supports 1.15.2 at all (but maybe the basic things). However, if you're using version 1.15.1, you can do anything you would in a regular mod. You just treat your .scx as a .mpq. [i]However[/i], if you want to go the whole way like I did for Black Holes, and make it work while playing against regular SC users, then you'll need to be careful. Some things you can change without any risk of desync at all, like .TBL files or .GRPs, and some are garunteed to have a desync, like grafting. However, some aspects, like iscripting, it's completely possible to make a script that doesn't desync. However, you'll have to ensure that anything that effects the script happens at the same time (i.e. all random jumps, moves, and waitrands* need to occur exactly when they would otherwise, however, things like gotos, playframs, and waits don't matter). A technique I used when making the Black Holes map was to take the original observer's iscript, and not make any changes except either replacing a goto with a copy of the block it goes to, separating waits, and adding playframs in between the waits. *although waitrand needs to happen at the same time as it would normally, remember that you can change the values without desyncing. Although remember that the events after it still need to happen at the same time. For example, you can replace "waitrand 8 10" with "waitrand 1 3 wait 7" without any risk of desync.

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you can do anything you can with a normal mod

This of course depends on your version, though. I don't beleive the current version of SCMLoader supports 1.15.2 at all (but maybe the basic things). However, if you're using version 1.15.1, you can do anything you would in a regular mod. You just treat your .scx as a .mpq.

However, if you want to go the whole way like I did for Black Holes, and make it work while playing against regular SC users, then you'll need to be careful. Some things you can change without any risk of desync at all, like .TBL files or .GRPs, and some are garunteed to have a desync, like grafting. However, some aspects, like iscripting, it's completely possible to make a script that doesn't desync. However, you'll have to ensure that anything that effects the script happens at the same time (i.e. all random jumps, moves, and waitrands* need to occur exactly when they would otherwise, however, things like gotos, playframs, and waits don't matter). A technique I used when making the Black Holes map was to take the original observer's iscript, and not make any changes except either replacing a goto with a copy of the block it goes to, separating waits, and adding playframs in between the waits.

*although waitrand needs to happen at the same time as it would normally, remember that you can change the values without desyncing. Although remember that the events after it still need to happen at the same time. For example, you can replace "waitrand 8 10" with "waitrand 1 3 wait 7" without any risk of desync.

Well all I am hoping to do is make it 1.15.1 and make a few datedit and possibly iscript changes.Nothing major but,nothing minor either.It is just to make the map just a bit more fun and good looking =].(also for my first try at a map mod)

Well all I am hoping to do is make it 1.15.1 and make a few datedit and possibly iscript changes.Nothing major but,nothing minor either.It is just to make the map just a bit more fun and good looking =].(also for my first try at a map mod)